Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-28 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'su -' and become root where everything is allowed. 'sudo' or a gui derivative. If the user has been authorized by root, just run the whole command with root priviledges as the user can obviously be trusted. You could also try my su-wrapper - it

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-28 Thread Stroller
On 27 Apr 2008, at 11:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Microsoft's stated reason for this is to annoy users so much that they will annoy 3rd party developers who will write software that doesn't need root to install. H. Is this not - substantially - the same as the reason for the Portage QA

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 28 April 2008, Stroller wrote: On 27 Apr 2008, at 11:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Microsoft's stated reason for this is to annoy users so much that they will annoy 3rd party developers who will write software that doesn't need root to install. H. Is this not -

RE: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-28 Thread John Krukoff
-Original Message- From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:48 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone? On Monday 28 April 2008, Stroller wrote: On 27 Apr

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 25 April 2008 06:45:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: Elog messages with yellow stars should *never* be ignored. Unlike UAC, they are not there with the express purpose of annoying users. Having no knowledge of Vista, nor a wish to try it, what is a UAC? Google tells me it's a Universal air

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 April 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 25 April 2008 06:45:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: Elog messages with yellow stars should *never* be ignored. Unlike UAC, they are not there with the express purpose of annoying users. Having no knowledge of Vista, nor a wish to try it, what

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 27 April 2008 11:55:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Sudo is so much better and infinitely less intrusive. It's also a solved problem years ago. Why didn't they use it? NIH. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 April 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 27 April 2008 11:55:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Sudo is so much better and infinitely less intrusive. It's also a solved problem years ago. Why didn't they use it? NIH. Of course, silly me. I was forgetting who exactly the who in

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:07:17PM +0200, Justin wrote Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! In my case, this was the umpteenth time I encountered circular blocks. After asking the first couple of

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 25 April 2008, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:07:17PM +0200, Justin wrote Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! In my case, this was the umpteenth time I encountered

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-20 Thread Stroller
On 19 Apr 2008, at 21:15, Uwe Thiem wrote: ... Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. If he's never made a dire mistake then he doesn't live in a glass house. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-20 Thread Justin
Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. You are right! Once I did this: rm -rv `equery files foo`. This was a brilliant lesson! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-20 Thread Justin
And since so many other people did this too, he just called a LOT of people stupid. Not good. Just said doing this is stupid not those people are stupid!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-20 Thread Mick
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: The system is back to working now as far as I can tell. Without all of you I would hardly have known exactly how to proceed. With your help I made some headway. Not sure yet whether it will reboot successfully but at least I could emerge coreutils

[gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Mark Knecht
I have a little Mac Mini - my first attempt at Gentoo on a PowerPC - that I brought up this week. It was (is) working but I'm not using it for anything yet. Just playing around with the machine. Nothing serious. This morning I wasn't paying much attention and wanted to do an emerge -DuN world.

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread forgottenwizard
On 11:27 Sat 19 Apr , Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? Try going into a LiveCD and either copy the coreutils from a stage, or try re-emerging it there. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Mick
On Saturday 19 April 2008, forgottenwizard wrote: On 11:27 Sat 19 Apr , Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? Try going into a LiveCD and either copy the coreutils from a stage, or try re-emerging it there. Of course if you want more detail check previous

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Justin
Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Mick
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! Hindsight is a wonderful thing - but pretty useless in its timing. I don't know about the OP, but I usually discover that

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread CJoeB
Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! I think you're being a little harsh. :-) Usually, unmerging a package that is blocking another package has, in my limited experience, always solved

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being sidetracked, and the shit

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? you should have busybox installed. Just create a symlink for every tool needed. ln -s bb ls and something like that. If even ln is gone, do it from busybox itself - it has everything needed

Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?

2008-04-19 Thread Chris Brennan
I've found, keeping a backup kernel from my last update and loading busybox instead of the system has recued my ass on more then one occassion. Ironicly, I encounted this problem on both my Gentoo Desktop *and* my Gentoo Laptop roughtly a month to two months ago. At this time, there was no