Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-13 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 01/13/2018 12:50 PM, Mick wrote: Thank you Taiidan for taking time to respond. Always man! On Friday, 12 January 2018 17:21:19 GMT you wrote: AMD says they are releasing microcode updates for their previous generation CPU's (Opteron, FX, etc) next week. So much better than intel throwing

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Adam Carter
> They're new in general - they first appeared last week and they're > being treated as if they're related to Spectre. I've yet to see any > kind of official release of them, but that seems to be par for the > course for AMD the more I hunt around for documentation. It seems > like Suse first

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Adam Carter
> > If somebody actually sees anything official from AMD clearly giving a > checklist for Spectre remediation I'm all ears. To its credit, Intel > at least published one of those (even if it amounts to "pound sand" > for older CPUs). > AMD have revised their guidance on Variant 2 from "near zero

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 01/12/2018 02:06 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: It shouldn't be. I'm not sure if Ryzen has anything equivalent to the Intel Management Engine. It does, it is called AMD PSP. Like ME it is closed source and it can't be disabled - no matter what people might claim.

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > The Fam16h and Fam17h microcode updates were new to Gentoo? > I don't recall ever seeing them before. > They're new in general - they first appeared last week and they're being treated as if they're related to

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Corbin Bird
On 01/12/2018 12:42 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday, 12 January 2018 17:47:46 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Corbin Bird > wrote: >>> On 01/11/2018 05:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: IMO Spectre is going to drive some microcode updates for

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Mick wrote: > On Friday, 12 January 2018 17:47:46 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > >> The other odd thing is that a firmware update was released for my >> motherboard (ASRock AB350 Pro4) on the 10th, and if I flash it grub >> will no longer

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Mick
On Friday, 12 January 2018 17:47:46 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/11/2018 05:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> IMO Spectre is going to drive some microcode updates for relatively > >> recent CPUs, compiler

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/11/2018 05:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> IMO Spectre is going to drive some microcode updates for relatively >> recent CPUs, compiler improvements, and some hand-tuning of >> particularly critical code. >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread taii...@gmx.com
AMD says they are releasing microcode updates for their previous generation CPU's (Opteron, FX, etc) next week. So much better than intel throwing older CPU owners to the wolves. In terms of what CPU to get - I would get either an AMD G34/C32 Opteron (pre-PSP) with a compatible libre firmware

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Corbin Bird
On 01/11/2018 05:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Mick wrote: >> Most vendors only sell Intel in their laptops. I could build a desktop I >> guess, but Ryzen is also affected by Spectre. With Intel's burning platform >> I >> want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/11/18 14:41, Mick wrote: Are any of you planning to replace your Intel PCs and what are you considering as a replacement at present? I was planning to replace two of my PCs with Ryzen, but that plan was in place before Meltdown happened. At least then I'll be able to get

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Mick wrote: > > Most vendors only sell Intel in their laptops. I could build a desktop I > guess, but Ryzen is also affected by Spectre. With Intel's burning platform I > want to jump off, but I'm not sure if spending money at this

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 01:46:08 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/09/2018 01:56 AM, Mick wrote: > > > > At this point, the only sure bet, is a non x86, x86_64, ARM, ARM64 CPU. > > > > Don't know enough to make a

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/09/2018 01:56 AM, Mick wrote: > > At this point, the only sure bet, is a non x86, x86_64, ARM, ARM64 CPU. > > Don't know enough to make a recommendation on a particular CPU arch at this > point. > Good luck with

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-09 Thread Corbin Bird
On 01/09/2018 01:56 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 8 January 2018 17:47:03 GMT Corbin Bird wrote: >> On 01/07/2018 02:46 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >>> I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone >>> knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. >>> >>> It

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-09 Thread Luigi Mantellini
I have a less-two-old N3700 CPU on a Asrock N3700-ITX board that (was)is perfect for my NAS, but without pcid instruction that mitigates the last pti patches slowdown. Asrock said nothing about the microcode/bios update and I asked for warranty return because I consider a factory defect but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-08 Thread Mick
On Monday, 8 January 2018 17:47:03 GMT Corbin Bird wrote: > On 01/07/2018 02:46 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone > > knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-08 Thread Corbin Bird
On 01/07/2018 02:46 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone > knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a > problem that was their fault to begin

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread Adam Carter
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:46 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > Its been reported they said they will "provide firmware updates by the end of next week

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread R0b0t1
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:46:52 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a > problem that was their fault

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:46:52 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a > problem that was their

[gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a problem that was their fault to begin with.