On Friday 17 March 2017 09:12:37 Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 16 March 2017 21:50:30 Jonathan Callen wrote:
> > On 03/16/2017 04:38 AM, Mick wrote:
> > > I updated one box with the latest stable KDE and discovered that
> > > Konqueror/Dolphin will no longer connect to ftp or sftp servers.
> > > 
> > > depclean showed up and uninstalled a lot of packages, which I let it do
> > > thinking they are no longer needed in the latest version of KDE,
> > > probably
> > > because their functionality was merged with other packages:
> > > 
> > > 1489518204:  *** emerge --verbose --quiet-build=n --ask --depclean
> > > 1489518204:  >>> depclean
> > > 1489518253: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3)
> > > 1489518278:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3
> > > 1489518278: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3)
> > > 1489518290:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3
> > > 1489518290: === Unmerging... (virtual/krb5-0-r1)
> > > 1489518294:  >>> unmerge success: virtual/krb5-0-r1
> > > 1489518294: === Unmerging... (net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200)
> > > 1489518301:  >>> unmerge success: net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200
> > > 1489518301: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518306:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3
> > > 1489518306: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4)
> > > 1489518319:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4
> > > 1489518319: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/renamedlg-plugins-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518326:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/renamedlg-plugins-16.04.3
> > > 1489518326: === Unmerging... (app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.14.2)
> > > 1489518333:  >>> unmerge success: app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.14.2
> > > 1489518333: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/paxctl-0.9)
> > > 1489518339:  >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/paxctl-0.9
> > > 1489518339: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebugdialog-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518391:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebugdialog-16.04.3
> > > 1489518391: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kimgio-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518399:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kimgio-16.04.3
> > > 1489518399: === Unmerging... (app-misc/geoclue-2.4.4)
> > > 1489518405:  >>> unmerge success: app-misc/geoclue-2.4.4
> > > 1489518405: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdesu-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518413:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdesu-16.04.3
> > > 1489518413: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kfile-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518421:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kfile-16.04.3
> > > 1489518421: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/phonon-kde-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518431:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/phonon-kde-16.04.3
> > > 1489518431: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kstart-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518440:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kstart-16.04.3
> > > 1489518440: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kmimetypefinder-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518448:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kmimetypefinder-16.04.3
> > > 1489518448: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kpasswdserver-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518457:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kpasswdserver-16.04.3
> > > 1489518457: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kquitapp-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518467:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kquitapp-16.04.3
> > > 1489518467: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-data-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518477:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-data-16.04.3
> > > 1489518477: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/keditfiletype-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518485:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/keditfiletype-16.04.3
> > > 1489518485: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kiconfinder-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518493:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kiconfinder-16.04.3
> > > 1489518493: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/solid-runtime-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518500:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/solid-runtime-16.04.3
> > > 1489518500: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/knewstuff-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518509:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/knewstuff-16.04.3
> > > 1489518509: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdontchangethehostname-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518516:  >>> unmerge success:
> > > kde-apps/kdontchangethehostname-16.04.3
> > > 1489518516: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-desktoptheme-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518524:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-desktoptheme-16.04.3
> > > 1489518524: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-menu-icons-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518532:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-menu-icons-16.04.3
> > > 1489518532: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/ktraderclient-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518541:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/ktraderclient-16.04.3
> > > 1489518541: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kreadconfig-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518549:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kreadconfig-16.04.3
> > > 1489518549: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518560:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3
> > > 1489518560: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/knotify-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518569:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/knotify-16.04.3
> > > 1489518569: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kcmshell-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518578:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kcmshell-16.04.3
> > > 1489518578: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-menu-16.04.3)
> > > 1489518586:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-menu-16.04.3
> > > 1489518586: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/json-glib-1.2.2)
> > > 1489518593:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/json-glib-1.2.2
> > > 1489518593: === Unmerging... (sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1)
> > > 1489518602:  >>> unmerge success: sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1
> > > 1489518602: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/keyutils-1.5.9-r1)
> > > 1489518608:  >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/keyutils-1.5.9-r1
> > > 1489518608: === Unmerging... (kde-frameworks/kactivities-4.13.3-r2)
> > > 1489518616:  >>> unmerge success: kde-frameworks/kactivities-4.13.3-r2
> > > 1489518616: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/libverto-0.2.5-r1)
> > > 1489518622:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/libverto-0.2.5-r1
> > > 1489518622: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/libev-4.23)
> > > 1489518628:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/libev-4.23
> > > 1489518628:  *** exiting successfully.
> > > 1489518629:  *** terminating.
> > > 
> > > On another box I did not notice this behaviour, but there are some
> > > differences between them in terms of applications installed.  Both have
> > > the same portage profile:
> > > 
> > > default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma
> > > 
> > > Is it a matter of waiting for a while for the new KDE apps to move into
> > > stable, or should I be reinstalling some of the above packages?
> > 
> > Have you rebooted (or at least logged out of KDE) since you upgraded?
> > 
> > Sometimes KDE has issues with network connections after an upgrade, as
> > some parts are still running with the old code and other parts with the
> > new, until you log out of your session.
> 
> Thanks Jonathan, I have rebooted since.  Since I've rebooted I've noticed
> that Dolphin *can* connect to ftp servers, albeit intermittently.  Perhaps
> this is a server problem, so I will keep an eye on it.
> 
> However, the problem remains with Konqueror.  It fails each time to connect
> with a message like this:
> 
> ==============================================
> The requested operation could not be completed
> 
> Request Aborted By User
> 
> Details of the Request:
> 
> URL: ftp://ftp.<FQDN>
> Protocol: ftp
> Date and Time: Friday 17 March 2017 08:22
> Additional Information: ftp.<FQDN>
> Description:
> 
> The request was not completed because it was aborted.
> 
> Possible Solutions:
> 
> Retry the request.
> ==================
> 
> Looking at the traffic on a local ftp server I can see it connects, but then
> no authentication takes place.  It aborts and the ftp server even complains
> about the way Konqueror aborts like so:
> 
> You.could.
> at.least.say.goo
> dbye...
> 
> So Konqueror does not appear to engage in an exchange of credentials with
> the server, or close the connection gracefully.  I wonder if this is
> related to how Konqueror now interacts with the plasma password manager.

I checked with another PC on which Konqueror still works fine.  The only 
discernible difference between the two is the other PC has kdebase-runtime-
meta in its world file, rather than a dependency.  Looking at the recent 
depclean session I noticed that 'kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3' and 
'kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3' were uninstalled.  Reinstalling plasma-
runtime didn't fix the problem, so I reinstalled kdebase-runtime-meta which 
brought in a tonne of packages.  Konqueror now works as expected.  I expect 
over time Konqueror et al will move over to plasma-frameworks and old KDE4 
components will be uninstalled without adverse effects.

This is what was dragged in:

# emerge -1aNDv kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdesu-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug -
handbook" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/phonon-kde-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="alsa 
pulseaudio (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/solid-runtime-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) 
-bluetooth -debug -networkmanager" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebase-data-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua)" 
0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/keditfiletype-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) 
-debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebugdialog-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="handbook 
(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebase-menu-icons-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-
aqua)" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kquitapp-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/renamedlg-plugins-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-
aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/knewstuff-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/knotify-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kiconfinder-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kimgio-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 
0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebase-desktoptheme-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  
USE="(-aqua)" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kreadconfig-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kmimetypefinder-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-
aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kfile-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 
0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kpasswdserver-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) 
-debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdontchangethehostname-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  
USE="(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebase-menu-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kstart-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 
0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/ktraderclient-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) 
-debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kcmshell-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -
debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  NS    ] kde-frameworks/kactivities-4.13.3-r2:4/4.13::gentoo 
[5.29.0:5/5.29::gentoo] USE="(-aqua)" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3:4/16.04::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) 
-debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3:5::gentoo  USE="nls pam 
webkit -oldwallet" 0 KiB


Thank you all for your responses.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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