Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Grant Taylor
On 03/02/2018 05:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Flam^H^H^H^H value judgments aside, does DMARC also change the long standing standard of sending rejections to the envelope address? No, DMARC should not change the principle operation of SMTP, save for additional checks that messages must pass.

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-02 15:51, Grant Taylor wrote: > The reason that messages are being rejected is because of the DMARC > policy. 1) I publish DMARC records and 2) Gmail honor published DMARC > records. [...] > - This is a growing change in the email industry. - I just happen to > live towards (but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Grant Taylor
On 03/02/2018 09:36 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: These are all from Grant Taylor. They are DKIM-signed, and, not surprisingly given the list header and footer munging, signature verification fails (on my mail server). Correct. DKIM verification is failing and my DMARC policy is configured to

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-02 12:04, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 182748 > - 182749 > - 182751 If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which ones they were, so we can guess as to the cause. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > If it helps, this is the complete message headers and all that I got > for one of them. Obviously, I'm editing out my email addy. I get > enough spam as it is. I'm replacing my email addy with ohnoyourenot > even if it is a partial. It seems to me that they are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Dale
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > >>> I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a >>> thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to >>> read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email >>> software, it

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > > I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a > > thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to > > read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email > > software, it seems we are missing

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 14:42, R0b0t1 wrote: > I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. > I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please > send help. Do you mean the crud from outlook/365? I get that too; it's probably because my list mail lacks DKIM