[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On 1/25/20 12:32 PM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 189317 Getting these messages again. They 'had disappeared for a while...' Verizon mail server system is aweful, so I'm still working on a permanent solution. Anyway subject:: maintainer-needed tools? So, https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/maintainer-needed.html and https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/User_Guide#Proxied_Maintainer_gets I use lots of these old packages, on old installs, and with minimal (some embedded) devices. So I feel like I should help maintain some of them; especially the ones I use. Many have (3 zeros) Open bugs:: for R-revdeps, D-revdep and P-revdeps. So here are some questions/requests for tools or useful scripts that provided some extended functionality. 1. Is there a 'tool/script' that searches (matches) this need-matainer list vs what I have installed? That sort of quick tool would allow everyone to quickly check to see if what they have/need is on the poverty list. thus encouraging folks to 'adopt' some of these old codes; ymmv. 2. I have many old, james_created, eapi-5 ebuilds locally on my systems. I'd like a way to keep them organized separately, but yet have one master list to work off of. Ideas/suggestions how to organized this? I currently place ebuilds of others in /var/lib/layman. My ebuilds and codes are mostly in /usr/local/portage. I probably should have another dir, just for embedded gentoo (centric) devices. but one master gui to easily view what code are where. Perhaps distinguish the builds, the ebuilds that do not yet work, and the raw C codes? 3. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/User_Guide#Proxied_Maintainer_gets Perhaps one of the devs could throw up a quick gentoo doc, on suggested tools? Perhaps the proxy-maintainers have organized the tools and howtos and other info/intel, so an old, challenged hack like myself can quickly become 'literate' with the latest and best methods to maintain some of these old codes? I'm not necessarily up on the latest, most-efficient ways to organize lots of codes, ebuilds and otherwise. 4. I have not had the time to fully digest git*, so some simple examples, centric to helping to maintain these old codes, would be a very positive idea, to encourage folks to commit to helping, beyond 'repoman vs CI'. Perhaps Proxy-maintainers has some examples, I've missed? 5. An additional column to newer codes that supersede these old codes would optimize the decisions that helpers make of where to invest their time wisely. Perhaps an additional column point to newer/better codes? 6. An additional column that points out the entries that are based/depend on python2_7? Or just a parsed listing of such ebuilds. Any other ideas/suggestions are most welcome. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:39:57 GMT you wrote: > On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote: > > On 2020-01-13, james wrote: > >> On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: > >>> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this > >>> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your > >>> information. > >>> > >>> Here is the list of the bounced messages: > >>> - 189231 > > > > How does one get to the message from that number? In order to receive an email of the bounced message you can send an empty message to the mailing list server, with the number of the message which was bounced in the address, e.g. to receive a copy of the above message number "189231", send this to the list: gentoo-user+get-189...@lists.gentoo.org HOWEVER ... your mailserver may still bounce the resent message. I just tried to retrieve it manually, only for it to be bounced again silently by Gmail. If I hadn't received another notice for the same bounced message number by the M/L address 'gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org', I wouldn't know Gmail bounced it once more. :-/ > > Is it possible to get > > an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that > > number? Hmm ... not sure if this is possible, or I don't know how to receive bounced messages via http. The way I do it is by following a process of elimination. I check an online M/L archive service and the bounced message is the one I have not received out of the list of recent messages. > >> Anyone else getting these? Yep. I do, but it may well be related to me using a Gmail to receive messages and Gmail may be rejecting the odd message for some reason. I have not added any recipients to a blacklist myself, so this is a Gmail action. > > It might just be the DMARC policy thing again. > > > > Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message: > > https://marc.info/?t=15725373431 > > It's my list emails, where I start a new subject. Usually, I can reply > to an existing thread without issue. Hi James. I did receive your email yesterday from your verizon email address about Mesos, via the M/L. It was titled "mesos updated ebuild advice?". Your messages are being delivered to this M/L and Gmail distributes them without bouncing as far as I can surmise: https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user=157895127422780 The messages which seem to be bounced by Gmail are sent by Mr. Alan Grimes. The most recent bounced message was yesterday, titled "WTF is up with mysqld?" > I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or > implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions: 68.4.1). Nothing you need to do. If people do not respond to a message it could well mean they have nothing valuable to add, rather than they haven't received it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote: On 2020-01-13, james wrote: On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 189231 How does one get to the message from that number? Is it possible to get an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that number? Anyone else getting these? It might just be the DMARC policy thing again. Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message: https://marc.info/?t=15725373431 It's my list emails, where I start a new subject. Usually, I can reply to an existing thread without issue. I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions: 68.4.1). So some explicit pathways to a solution/workaround would be appreciated. I also have a "free" limited/restricted email address:: 'dtf...@protonmail.com' not sure if using this address would fix things. The nice thing about 'thunderbird' is I have a vast amount of saved emails, and it has worked flawlessly, until these bounced messages started this year. I've read through that aforementioned thread, but, being old and slow, I did not see a fix for me. Perhaps gentoo runs a mail server, if I setup with proxy-maintainer? I was trying to post a new about MESOS 'A distributed systems kernel'. Back in 2015 I have a working EAPI-5 gentoo ebuild, which I have locally. Upgraded to Mesos-1.9.0 via EAPI 7(or ?) was the guidance I was looking for. So can I get a gentoo-rookie-proxy mail server access? I'm quite certain *MY* issues are due to how Verizon administers the mail services. Often, when I fire up Thunderbird, it pucks for a few hours, then starts working with repetitive sends and pulls. I guess it finally reverts back to something that works for Thunderbird. I've been using thunderbird for a very, very long time and have little desire to stop using thunderbird, as my main email system. Now setting up an easy-to-admin mail system(s) that is thunderbird friendly; I'm all ears. I may be getting a single static IP, to facilitate just that, from Verizon or ?. Any help via this list or direct is most appreciated. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:24:51 +, (Nuno Silva) wrote: > >> Here is the list of the bounced messages: > >> - 189231 > > How does one get to the message from that number? Look at the List-Help header in any message. Following that returns a list of commands you can send to the listserv. -- Neil Bothwick Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes! pgpzyMsvhdLWd.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On 2020-01-13, james wrote: > On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: >> >> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this >> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your >> information. >> >> Here is the list of the bounced messages: >> - 189231 How does one get to the message from that number? Is it possible to get an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that number? > Anyone else getting these? It might just be the DMARC policy thing again. Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message: https://marc.info/?t=15725373431 -- Nuno Silva
[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 189231 Anyone else getting these? James
