Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-23 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 23.07.2018 08:56, Kai Peter wrote: > package.provided have to be configured at each host by hand wich is a > big effort if you have a lot of boxes. I call that nonsense. How is that an effort, especially if the proposed alternative is installing a do-nothing ebuild on "a lot of boxes"? "He wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-22 Thread Kai Peter
On 2018-07-22 12:24, Ralph Seichter wrote: On 22.07.2018 09:27, Kai Peter wrote: A bit more easier is to create an 'empty' virtual ebuild which at least does nothing but tells portage the dependency is fulfilled. Not a good choice, IMO. Portage has its own mechanism for that: https://wiki.gen

[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 22/07/18 00:03, Alan Mackenzie wrote: But what's the proper method to tell my gentoo system that I don't want crud like nullmailer installed? How can I guard myself against such presumptiousness on the part of the Gentoo devs in the future? By reading the output of "emerge --ask <...>" next

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-22 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 22.07.2018 09:27, Kai Peter wrote: > A bit more easier is to create an 'empty' virtual ebuild which at > least does nothing but tells portage the dependency is fulfilled. Not a good choice, IMO. Portage has its own mechanism for that: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/profile/package.p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-22 Thread Kai Peter
On 2018-07-22 04:11, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2018-07-21 23:04, Grant Edwards wrote: Manually installing things in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin will often cause problems because Portage assumes that it controls those directories. So don't do that: you should manually install things in /usr/local. Or,

[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-21 23:04, Grant Edwards wrote: > Manually installing things in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin will often cause > problems because Portage assumes that it controls those directories. > > So don't do that: you should manually install things in /usr/local. > > Or, install qmail using portage, so

[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-07-21, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > What has happened is that somebody decided to add virtual/mta-1 > surreptitiously to the default software set in Gentoo. This > installs something called nullmailer, which I don't need, didn't ask > for, and fouls up my mail transmission. > > nullmailer ins