Neil Bothwick writes:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:06:33 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> >> > > How do you remember these keys?
>> >> >
>> >> > BUSIER backwards, or bookmark
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key in your phone's
>> >> > browser :)
>> >>
>> >> Phone's browser?
>> >
>> > If
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:06:33 +0200, lee wrote:
> >> > > How do you remember these keys?
> >> >
> >> > BUSIER backwards, or bookmark
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key in your phone's
> >> > browser :)
> >>
> >> Phone's browser?
> >
> > If you need the SysRq trick, you probab
Emanuele Rusconi writes:
> On 8 April 2015 at 23:47, lee wrote:
>>
>> Neil Bothwick writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:21:38 +0200, lee wrote:
>> >
>> > > How do you remember these keys?
>> >
>> > BUSIER backwards, or bookmark
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key in your phone'
On 8 April 2015 at 23:47, lee wrote:
>
> Neil Bothwick writes:
>
> > On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:21:38 +0200, lee wrote:
> >
> > > How do you remember these keys?
> >
> > BUSIER backwards, or bookmark
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key in your phone's browser :)
>
> Phone's browser?
If
Neil Bothwick writes:
> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:21:38 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> > It will in many cases (probably most). Usually it's xorg that
>> > "freezes" the keyboard, in those cases ctrl-alt-sysrq-r followed by
>> > ctrl-alt-f1 should get you to the VT where you can restart xorg. I
>> > think t
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:21:38 +0200, lee wrote:
> > It will in many cases (probably most). Usually it's xorg that
> > "freezes" the keyboard, in those cases ctrl-alt-sysrq-r followed by
> > ctrl-alt-f1 should get you to the VT where you can restart xorg. I
> > think the kernel needs to be completel
On Tuesday, April 07, 2015 9:21:38 PM lee wrote:
> Fernando Rodriguez writes:
>
> > On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:41:12 PM lee wrote:
> >> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
> >> disabled.
> >>
> >> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.
> >
> > It
lee writes:
> Living in the past is not onwardly a good default.
s/is not onwardly/seldwhen is/
Rich Freeman writes:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:41 AM, lee wrote:
>>
>> Oh I mean the *default*. We should not need to change the inittab to
>> have it disabled by default.
>>
>> Isn't commenting out the whole line sufficient?
>>
>
> Uh, commenting out the line is changing the inittab (and I ha
Fernando Rodriguez writes:
> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:41:12 PM lee wrote:
>> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
>> disabled.
>>
>> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.
>
> It will in many cases (probably most). Usually it's xorg that "freeze
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote:
>>>
> On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that.
I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
disabled.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote:
>>
On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that.
>>> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
>>> disabled.
>> BUSIER backwards.
>>
>>>
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>>> On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that.
>> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
>> disabled.
> BUSIER backwards.
>
>> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote:
> > On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that.
>
> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
> disabled.
BUSIER backwards.
> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.
It usually does. The ker
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:41:12 PM lee wrote:
> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it
> disabled.
>
> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.
It will in many cases (probably most). Usually it's xorg that "freezes" the
keyboard, in those cases ctrl-
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:41 AM, lee wrote:
>
> Oh I mean the *default*. We should not need to change the inittab to
> have it disabled by default.
>
> Isn't commenting out the whole line sufficient?
>
Uh, commenting out the line is changing the inittab (and I have no
idea if it works or not offh
Fernando Rodriguez writes:
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23:00 PM lee wrote:
>> Philip Webb writes:
>> What's the last time you pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it actually worked?
>> It's a legacy thing from times when freezes/crashes were common and when
>> it did work and was useful.
>>
>> Nowadays
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Emanuele Rusconi wrote:
>>>
>>> Easy to remember as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken"
>>
>> I remember it as the reverse of "busier".
>
> A variant I read somewhere is "Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly
> Boring".
> "Skinny" is an extra optional sync,
> > Easy to remember as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken"
>
> I remember it as the reverse of "busier".
>
A variant I read somewhere is "Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly Boring".
"Skinny" is an extra optional sync, it doesn't hurt and makes the
mnemonic funnier.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
> On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. If enabled (I think
> it is by default, may be wrong) you can use ctrl-alt-sysrq plus one these keys
> even if your kernel panics or freezes in most cases (ctrl may only be nee
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:57:32 AM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23:00 PM lee wrote:
> > Philip Webb writes:
> > What's the last time you pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it actually worked?
> > It's a legacy thing from times when freezes/crashes were common and when
> > it d
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23:00 PM lee wrote:
> Philip Webb writes:
> What's the last time you pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it actually worked?
> It's a legacy thing from times when freezes/crashes were common and when
> it did work and was useful.
>
> Nowadays, when you're pressing it, usually no
Philip Webb writes:
> 150322 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete.
The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down ? Strange
>>> The thinking is that you can unplug the machine
On 26 March 2015 at 17:28, Francisco Ares wrote:
>
>
> edit /etc/sudoers to include a line like the one bellow:
>
>
> your_user_name
> ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/halt,NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot,NOPASSWD:/sbin/poweroff,
>
>
> Then log off and log in again, and it should work.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Francisco
2015-03-26 13:13 GMT-03:00 Hans :
> On 22/03/15 05:26, German wrote:
>
>> If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run
>> poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from
>> user? Thanks
>>
>> If nothing works, I use the big red switch at the fro
On 22/03/15 05:26, German wrote:
If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run poweroff
from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from user? Thanks
If nothing works, I use the big red switch at the front of my box to
poweroff.
On 23/03/15 14:16, Matti Nykyri wrote:
On Mar 23, 2015, at 14:13, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 23/03/15 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote:
The consensus seems to be that there's no point in trying to prevent a user
from rebooting the machine, and I'm happy to go along with that.
The remaining questi
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 14:13, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
>> On 23/03/15 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> The consensus seems to be that there's no point in trying to prevent a user
>> from rebooting the machine, and I'm happy to go along with that.
>>
>> The remaining question is: why is the user
On 23/03/15 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote:
The consensus seems to be that there's no point in trying to prevent a user
from rebooting the machine, and I'm happy to go along with that.
The remaining question is: why is the user not allowed to halt it?
Because there's no keyboard shortcut for halt
On 22/03/15 22:12, Philip Webb wrote:
150322 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 22/03/15 17:58, Philip Webb wrote:
If you have multiple users,
you don't want some rogue user rebooting randomly
You can't stop a local user from doing that.
As mentioned, the reset button works just fine. You really do
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 17:58, Philip Webb wrote:
>
> 150322 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete.
The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down ? Strange
>>> The thinking is t
150322 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 22/03/15 17:58, Philip Webb wrote:
>> If you have multiple users,
>> you don't want some rogue user rebooting randomly
> You can't stop a local user from doing that.
> As mentioned, the reset button works just fine. You really do want
> those users to reboot th
On 22/03/15 17:58, Philip Webb wrote:
Because of that, the default of allowing ctrl+alt+del for local users
makes more sense than disabling it.
That doesn't follow : if you have multiple users,
you don't want some rogue user rebooting randomly
You can't stop a local user from doing that. As m
150322 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete.
>>> The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down ? Strange
>> The thinking is that you can unplug the machine
>> or press the hardware re
On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 22/03/15 12:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 March 2015 16:20:17 Jc García wrote:
> >>> Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a
> >>> user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, bu
On 22/03/15 12:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 21 March 2015 16:20:17 Jc García wrote:
Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a
user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut
down? Strange
It's not strange, `man 2 reboot`. It's a def
On 21/03/15 21:26, German wrote:
If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run poweroff
from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from user? Thanks
If you have dbus running (KDE, Gnome and others automatically use it),
then you can shut down with som
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