Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
KISS - keep it short and simple. Doesnt that also stand for keep it simple stupid!? You can also use port knocking for additional security for SSH. I dont know anything about VPN so I wont comment. -- Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical) When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
John Jolet wrote: Why do though all the hassle of setting up a VPN when you can use SSH to provide a secure tunnel into the network and use that instead? Works fine for me. # ssh -L5900:hostname:5900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vncviewer localhost:0 Okay, now show me the instance where you want box-internet-box-vnc server. That does provide a tunnel between two boxes. It's quick and simple to setup and can be used by any ssh client, regardless of the system. Whether you're on Unix or Linux. You can even do it using Windows using PuTTY. It's good to know in case if you need access but don't have a box that can't do VPN, or there's a problem with the VPN. If you want to open it up for some reason to another box, you can use the gateway switch (-g) and SSH will listed to all incoming connections on that port on the remote computer. # ssh -g -L5900:remote:5900 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:port If you set up openvpn on your ssh server, you easily can tunnel across it. Doing that with ssh would add another tunnel. Takes 5 minutes to set up. I'm not disagreeing with you, but a VPN can add a whole level of complexity and setup, whereas if you just want to remotely access a VNC server across the Internet, SSH works great and has added security built in. If you want to access more than VPN, i.e. SMB, or need the remote computer to 'appear' on the local network for some reason, VPN is fine - go ahead and use it. KISS - keep it short and simple. -- Jonathan Wright ~ mail at djnauk.co.uk ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.13-gentoo-r3-djnauk-b2 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+ up 1 day, 21:39, 0 users, load average: 0.64, 0.46, 0.33 -- My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen because she thought I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it. ~ Amanda Bearse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
Grant wrote: Hello, I'd like to ssh into my network over the internet. Do I need to set up VPN for that? Can anyone point me in the right direction? It depends on what you're trying to do. If you just want to ssh into a machine on your network... then no. From a shell session on that machine you can access the other hosts on your network. If you want to ssh into your network and have your computer connected as if you were actually on the network... then yes you will need VPN for that. What sort of network access are you wanting? -Gabriel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
Hello, I'd like to ssh into my network over the internet. Do I need to set up VPN for that? Can anyone point me in the right direction? It depends on what you're trying to do. If you just want to ssh into a machine on your network... then no. From a shell session on that machine you can access the other hosts on your network. If you want to ssh into your network and have your computer connected as if you were actually on the network... then yes you will need VPN for that. What sort of network access are you wanting? -Gabriel Hi Gabriel, Basically I have a network back home with a couple Gentoo systems connected and I'd like to have ssh (and maybe vnc) access to them from my Gentoo laptop no matter where I am. What do you think? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
On Sunday 16 October 2005 13:01, Grant wrote: Hello, I'd like to ssh into my network over the internet. Do I need to set up VPN for that? Can anyone point me in the right direction? It depends on what you're trying to do. If you just want to ssh into a machine on your network... then no. From a shell session on that machine you can access the other hosts on your network. If you want to ssh into your network and have your computer connected as if you were actually on the network... then yes you will need VPN for that. What sort of network access are you wanting? -Gabriel Hi Gabriel, Basically I have a network back home with a couple Gentoo systems connected and I'd like to have ssh (and maybe vnc) access to them from my Gentoo laptop no matter where I am. What do you think? - Grant if you just need ssh, you don't need a vpn, just a port forward on your router. for vnc, I'd use openvpn. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
John Jolet wrote: Basically I have a network back home with a couple Gentoo systems connected and I'd like to have ssh (and maybe vnc) access to them from my Gentoo laptop no matter where I am. What do you think? if you just need ssh, you don't need a vpn, just a port forward on your router. for vnc, I'd use openvpn. Why do though all the hassle of setting up a VPN when you can use SSH to provide a secure tunnel into the network and use that instead? Works fine for me. # ssh -L5900:hostname:5900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vncviewer localhost:0 -- Jonathan Wright ~ mail at djnauk.co.uk ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.12-gentoo-r10-djnauk-b3 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 1.68, 0.87, 0.33 -- People sometimes think I'm gay because I once played a gay in a movie. It's funny. Audiences don't think you're a murderer if you play a murderer, but they do think you're gay if you play a gay. ~ Perry King -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reaching my network over the internet
On Sunday 16 October 2005 15:44, Jonathan Wright wrote: John Jolet wrote: Basically I have a network back home with a couple Gentoo systems connected and I'd like to have ssh (and maybe vnc) access to them from my Gentoo laptop no matter where I am. What do you think? if you just need ssh, you don't need a vpn, just a port forward on your router. for vnc, I'd use openvpn. Why do though all the hassle of setting up a VPN when you can use SSH to provide a secure tunnel into the network and use that instead? Works fine for me. # ssh -L5900:hostname:5900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vncviewer localhost:0 Okay, now show me the instance where you want box-internet-box-vnc server. If you set up openvpn on your ssh server, you easily can tunnel across it. Doing that with ssh would add another tunnel. Takes 5 minutes to set up. -- Jonathan Wright ~ mail at djnauk.co.uk ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.12-gentoo-r10-djnauk-b3 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 1.68, 0.87, 0.33 -- People sometimes think I'm gay because I once played a gay in a movie. It's funny. Audiences don't think you're a murderer if you play a murderer, but they do think you're gay if you play a gay. ~ Perry King -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
