Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 23/07/20 06:45, Walter Dnes wrote: > ...does indeed pull in sphinx. If I didn't know any better, I'd say > that Lennart is behind this. Anyhow, I've managed to avoid llvm > altogether (USE="-llvm"), so I don't have that problem. I think you might find sphinx is a dependency of the kernel ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 23 July 2020 06:45:27 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > I assume you're on unstable? Yes, I needed it for zoom. > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" USE="-doc -libffi -ncurses emerge -pv > =sys-devel/llvm-10.0.1 > > ...does indeed pull in sphinx. If I didn't know any better, I'd say > that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-23 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:45:27AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" USE="-doc -libffi -ncurses emerge -pv > =sys-devel/llvm-10.0.1 > > ...does indeed pull in sphinx. If I didn't know any better, I'd say > that Lennart is behind this. Anyhow, I've managed to avoid llvm >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 04:13:10PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:59:01 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:46:34AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > > > So it doesn't even depend on the doc USE flag. > > > > Strange. On my system... > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2020-07-21 12:00, Grant Edwards wrote: > > That only requires 6 new packages (two of them are > acct-{user,group}/polkitd, so it's only 4 new "real" packages. Of > course every self-respecting package needs to install at least one new > programming language -- this time it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:59:01 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:46:34AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > So it doesn't even depend on the doc USE flag. > > Strange. On my system... But if you upgrade to 10.0.1, as I did today, you'll find things have changed. At

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:46:34AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > So it doesn't even depend on the doc USE flag. > Strange. On my system... == USE="-doc" emerge -pv llvm [i660][root][~] USE="-doc" emerge -pv llvm These are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 01:25:01PM -, Grant Edwards wrote > On 2020-07-22, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:29:48AM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Yes, that's what I did months ago, and everything worked fine with > >> Xorg using the "suid" flag and without consolekit or

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-22, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> Users who do not wish to use logind interface or have rare hardware >> >> that does not use KMS and because of that, require root privileges >> >> to operate, can manually re-enable 'suid' and disable 'elogind' USE >> >> flags in order to preserve the

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-22, Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:29:48AM -, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Yes, that's what I did months ago, and everything worked fine with >> Xorg using the "suid" flag and without consolekit or elogind -- until >> this morning, when pam refused to upgrade unless I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:23:35 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:47:25 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Sync, re-emerge bind-tools and try again. The man pages are now > > downloaded as a separate tarball, so Sphinx and deps are not longer > > needed. > > And lo! 17 packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:29:48AM -, Grant Edwards wrote > On 2020-07-22, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > According to news item > > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2020-06-24-xorg-server-dropping-default-suid.html > > > > * xorg-server will no longer be "suid" *BY DEFAULT* > > *

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 02:29:48AM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > Yes, that's what I did months ago, and everything worked fine with > Xorg using the "suid" flag and without consolekit or elogind -- until > this morning, when pam refused to upgrade unless I set the elogind USE > flag. Look at

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-22, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 04:00:21PM -, Grant Edwards wrote >> >> Before I can try that, I apparently have to enable the elogind USE >> flag because of somthing else that changed since I sync'ed yesterday. >> >> That only requires 6 new packages (two of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:30:07PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > According to news item > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2020-06-24-xorg-server-dropping-default-suid.html > > * xorg-server will no longer be "suid" *BY DEFAULT* > * that means *THE DEFAULT* is to require a logind

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 04:00:21PM -, Grant Edwards wrote > > Before I can try that, I apparently have to enable the elogind USE > flag because of somthing else that changed since I sync'ed yesterday. > > That only requires 6 new packages (two of them are > acct-{user,group}/polkitd, so it's

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-21, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-07-21, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:47:25 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> Sync, re-emerge bind-tools and try again. The man pages are now >>> downloaded as a separate tarball, so Sphinx and deps are not longer >>> needed. >>

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-21, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:47:25 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> Sync, re-emerge bind-tools and try again. The man pages are now >> downloaded as a separate tarball, so Sphinx and deps are not longer >> needed. > > And lo! 17 packages were removed by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:47:25 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > Sync, re-emerge bind-tools and try again. The man pages are now > downloaded as a separate tarball, so Sphinx and deps are not longer > needed. And lo! 17 packages were removed by depclean! -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:03:41 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > The man pages are now downloaded as a separate tarball, so Sphinx > > and deps are not longer needed. > > Wow, that's impressive service! One nit-picking, whiney post on the > mailing list and the "problem" gets fixed in a

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:08:16 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > These are build-only dependencies so "emerge --depclean" can remove >> > them after you install bind-tools. >> >> Except it doesn't. I did an "emerge --depclean" after updating >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:08:16 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > These are build-only dependencies so "emerge --depclean" can remove > > them after you install bind-tools. > > Except it doesn't. I did an "emerge --depclean" after updating > bind-tools, and sphinx et al were not removed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2020-07-21 13:08:16, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-07-20, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > These are build-only dependencies so "emerge --depclean" can remove them > > after you install bind-tools. > > Except it doesn't. I did an "emerge --depclean" after updating > bind-tools, and sphinx et

[gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!

2020-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-07-20, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > These are build-only dependencies so "emerge --depclean" can remove them > after you install bind-tools. Except it doesn't. I did an "emerge --depclean" after updating bind-tools, and sphinx et al were not removed. -- Grant