on 01/30/2014 08:30 AM Mick wrote the following:
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote:
Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor
binary patch forces them into this situation.
That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP
Graphics).
on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following:
On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote:
Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel
sources, at least until now, isn't it?
No, not at all.
Kernels are different and portage treats them very differently.
On 30/01/2014 11:54, Thanasis wrote:
on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following:
On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote:
Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel
sources, at least until now, isn't it?
No, not at all.
Kernels are different and
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP
Graphics).
Nothing special. I am merely a home user, maintaining a few PCs. That's all.
Nividia is a *VENDOR* that chooses not to provide information so
drivers can be properly
On 30/01/2014 17:25, James wrote:
As part of the open source community, I would think you have a
repsonsibility to *reward those vendors that work generously with the
greater open source community* ?
No, not actually. The only responsibility he has is to do whatever he
feels like doing.
It
On Thursday 30 Jan 2014 15:25:47 James wrote:
Nividia is a *VENDOR* that chooses not to provide information so
drivers can be properly maintained, historically. ATI (AMD now) is a vendor
who provides information so drivers can be maintained, even optimized, into
perpetuity.
Maybe you chose
Peter Humphrey peter at prh.myzen.co.uk writes:
Maybe you chose unwisely?(get ATI next time) unless
I've used nVidia cards for many years. When I bought my first one
(maybe 20 years ago) ATI support in Linux was woeful, and the doggerel
had it that the hardware was less
on 01/30/2014 11:04 PM James wrote the following:
Peter Humphrey peter at prh.myzen.co.uk writes:
Maybe you chose unwisely?(get ATI next time) unless
I've used nVidia cards for many years. When I bought my first one
(maybe 20 years ago) ATI support in Linux was woeful, and
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest
3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with
the latest gentoo-sources?
that won't work as each kernel ebuild is in it's own unique slot
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
Currently, that would be version 3.10.28.
I know I can specify it like so,
emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.28
Opps, I did not read very deeply, still on first java_fix
but then it would not get auto-updated when a newer version of that
On 29/01/2014 15:23, James wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest
3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with
the latest gentoo-sources?
that won't work as each kernel ebuild
on 01/29/2014 03:23 PM James wrote the following:
There might be a work around that suites your needs?
# emerge -pv =gentoo-sources-3.10.28
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild NS ~]
on 01/28/2014 10:12 PM eroen wrote the following:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org
wrote:
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest
3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with
the latest gentoo-sources?
on 01/29/2014 03:36 PM James wrote the following:
Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions
of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered.
Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as long term,
which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series (if I am
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:09:31 +0200, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org
wrote:
on 01/28/2014 10:12 PM eroen wrote the following:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis
thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the
latest 3.10.X series of
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a
newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world
set, the newer kernel source of the 3.10.X series won't appear as an update.
You'll have to emerge it again
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
on 01/29/2014 03:36 PM James wrote the following:
Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions
of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered.
Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as long term,
which, I
on 01/29/2014 05:59 PM James wrote the following:
Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions
of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered.
Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as long term,
which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series (if I am
On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote:
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a
newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world
set, the newer kernel source of the 3.10.X series won't appear as an
On 29/01/2014 21:37, Thanasis wrote:
I only use Alan Cox, as an example;
I have no idea who the long-term kernel maintainer is now, but
historically it's been somebody with a vested interest, or
some poor-unappreciated sapimho.
Googling about kernel maintainer for long term 3.10, I
on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following:
On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote:
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a
newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world
set, the newer
On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote:
on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following:
On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote:
Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes:
No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a
newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote:
Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor
binary patch forces them into this situation.
That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP
Graphics).
Wouldn't nouveau drivers overcome this
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org
wrote:
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest
3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with
the latest gentoo-sources?
Currently, that would be version 3.10.28.
I know I can
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