[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-07 Thread walt
On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 I'm more concerned about you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-07 Thread walt
On 02/07/2014 02:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Your seat seems to be the owner of both the power buttons and USB devices, so you should not be asked for a password when powering down the machine (unless another user or root is logged in, for example by ssh), nor when using a USB stick.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:25 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/07/2014 02:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Your seat seems to be the owner of both the power buttons and USB devices, so you should not be asked for a password when powering down the machine (unless another user or root is

[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-07 Thread walt
On 02/07/2014 04:43 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:25 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/07/2014 02:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Your seat seems to be the owner of both the power buttons and USB devices, so you should not be asked for a password when powering

[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-06 Thread walt
On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 I'm more concerned about you being seat0, and you being asked for a password. In theory that's what logind solves, and in a much more cleaner,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 06:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 I'm more concerned about you being seat0, and you being asked for a password. In

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, February 5, 2014 07:21, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/02/2014 01:27, walt wrote: Being the only user of this machine, I could work up some outrage over this new PITA -- but I've decided not to be outraged. I pretend to be a sysadmin and imagine how I would feel if an arbitrary user

[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-05 Thread walt
On 02/04/2014 04:10 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure that unsetting the consolekit useflag (when I switched to systemd) resulted in some non-MicroSoft behavior, e.g. I now need to authenticate as root when plugging or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 5, 2014 6:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] I am seat0 (I forgot about loginctl, thanks) but I'm not sure what you mean by enabled in /etc/pam.d. Many months ago I remember being confused by the last line of system-auth: #cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth authrequired

[gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread walt
On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB sick (it mounts as root:root) and I can not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Poncho
On 05.02.2014 01:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 4, 2014 7:30 PM, Poncho pon...@spahan.ch wrote: On 05.02.2014 01:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/02/2014 01:27, walt wrote: Being the only user of this machine, I could work up some outrage over this new PITA -- but I've decided not to be outraged. I pretend to be a sysadmin and imagine how I would feel if an arbitrary user demanded the ability to plug any arbitrary USB stick into