Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Tobias
On 8 August 2015 at 20:11, Jonathan Callen jcal...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/08/2015 01:37 PM, James wrote: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: there is *no we* in nix unless your or I step up. Fair enough! :: git clone --bare

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-08, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first times. Why

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup process as possible. WTF? Do they think that stuff is top secret or something? Are they afraid

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup process as possible. WTF? Do they think

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread James
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first times. Why

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: there is *no we* in nix unless your or I step up. Fair enough! :: git clone --bare https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.gitCloning into bare repository 'gli.git'... fatal: repository 'https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/' not found It'd be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Jc García
2015-08-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has completed successfully. If the boot halts, you can see where and, usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. Most splash screens I've seen, can change

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Poison BL.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to great effort to hide as much

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/08/2015 01:37 PM, James wrote: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: there is *no we* in nix unless your or I step up. Fair enough! :: git clone --bare https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.gitCloning into bare repository

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Poison BL.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Poison BL. poiso...@gmail.com wrote: So it was prompted by a perceived security issue, but I would happily sit down with any of the DPOs involved in that to hear just how that little bandaid fixes any of the real security issues involved ;) -- Joshua M.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:28:00 PM Mick wrote: On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to great effort to hide as much information about the

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread walt
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:21:07 -0400 Poison BL. poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Poison BL. poiso...@gmail.com wrote: So it was prompted by a perceived security issue, but I would happily sit down with any of the DPOs involved in that to hear just how that little

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:21:12 -0600, Jc García wrote: Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has completed successfully. If the boot halts, you can see where and, usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. Most splash screens I've seen, can change back

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread James
Jonathan Callen jcallen at gentoo.org writes: Until Sven updates his code to not use GuideXML, I have linked to his snapshots in my own devspace, under http://dev.gentoo.org/~jcallen/snapshots/. The snapshots go back to 2008-01-20, and are current to 2015-07-20. downloading now. thx James