Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 07:19:37 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It getting more confused: This morning I did a [...] emerge -pv kde Now I am confused. Thought you wanted to install kde-meta??? still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) it reports packages of kde to be updated Nope, not updated. It shows new installs (N). In addition, it shows that you already have some split ebuilds installed which block the monolithic ones. I would suggest that you simply install kde-meta first this should solve your problems. HTH... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
solfire:/rootemerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies -!!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 ... done! Verifying ebuild Manifests... !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-05 09:02]: Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 07:19:37 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It getting more confused: This morning I did a [...] emerge -pv kde Now I am confused. Thought you wanted to install kde-meta??? still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) it reports packages of kde to be updated Nope, not updated. It shows new installs (N). In addition, it shows that you already have some split ebuilds installed which block the monolithic ones. I would suggest that you simply install kde-meta first this should solve your problems. HTH... Dirk -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
ok, now it works...dont know what caused the last hickup... mcc [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-05 10:12]: solfire:/rootemerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies -!!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 ... done! Verifying ebuild Manifests... !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-05 09:02]: Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 07:19:37 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It getting more confused: This morning I did a [...] emerge -pv kde Now I am confused. Thought you wanted to install kde-meta??? still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) it reports packages of kde to be updated Nope, not updated. It shows new installs (N). In addition, it shows that you already have some split ebuilds installed which block the monolithic ones. I would suggest that you simply install kde-meta first this should solve your problems. HTH... Dirk -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 10:10:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: solfire:/rootemerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies -!!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 ... done! Hmm, mine has a size of 4066, after this mornings sync. Try to re-sync your tree. Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Sunday 05 October 2008 07:19:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It getting more confused: This morning I did a emerge -pvuNDt world again and it shows me nothing suspicious. But doing a emerge -pv kde still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) This output is correct. it reports packages of kde to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world This is also correct same goes for emerge -pv gnome which shows me a bunch of gnome related packages to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world. It seems the world of emerge is smaller as my system ?!? What is wrong here? What did I so badly wrong? You did nothing wrong, you just have the wrong idea about what portage is telling you. Step back and think about this for just a second. When you run 'emerge kde' you are asking portage to add new package to your system, and they will go in world. It will also show all new packages that will be installed due to DEPENDs. That's why ever line in that output starts with [ebuild N ] - they are new to your system. When you run 'emerge -pvuND world' you are asking portage to update your entire system, do a deep resolve looking into DEPENDS as well, and to take changed/added/removed USE flags into account as well. This will not add new packages as you didn't tell portage to install any new packages. Kinda obvious really... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Sunday 05 October 2008 07:28:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I mistyped some tings: OK, that explains the last post then :-) I meant (hrrrmm): :) The /blocking/ items are only shown with emerge -pv kde. The blocks do not exist until you try to emerge something that will block with them. Sort of like how my wife does not object to me having a girlfriend until I actually go out and try to get one :-) and emerge .pv gnome shows package to be updated. You ask portage to install gnome, it does not trigger blocks, so everything works fine. In what way does this differ from what you expect to happen? emerge -pvuNDt world shows no blocking items nor gnome packages to be updated. Emerge world updates everything you already have and/or need to have. You don't have kde and don't need kde and haven't told portage to install it. So it doesn't block. Do you realise that kde is a monolithic package and the corresponding split ebuild is kde-meta? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Sunday 05 October 2008 10:10:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solfire:/rootemerge kde-meta Calculating dependencies -!!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 ... done! Verifying ebuild Manifests... !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase-startkde/kdebase-startkde-4.1.2-r1.ebuild !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 4061 !!! Expected: 4064 Run 'emerge --sync' again You got a woopsie! copy on the last try -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 19:06:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon: When you run 'emerge -pvuND world' you are asking portage to update your entire system, do a deep resolve looking into DEPENDS as well, and to take changed/added/removed USE flags into account as well. Correct so far. This will not add new packages as you didn't tell portage to install any new packages. Kinda obvious really... This depends. Changed use flags and/or changed dependencies in updated packages may well trigger new package installs to fulfill the changed dependencies. Bye... Dirk
[gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and the following emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world still shows that item being blocking new stuff. I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but from emerge's point of view it is still there. How can I fix that problem ? Kind regards, Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and the following emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world still shows that item being blocking new stuff. I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but from emerge's point of view it is still there. How can I fix that problem ? You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and that in turn conflicts with what you want to install now. Post the full output of 'emerge -pvuNDt world' and we'll deciphyer it for you -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and the following emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world still shows that item being blocking new stuff. I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but from emerge's point of view it is still there. How can I fix that problem ? You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and that in turn conflicts with what you want to install now. Post the full output of 'emerge -pvuNDt world' and we'll deciphyer it for you -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Hi Alan! Here it comes: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies - app-cdr/mp3burn-0.3.3-r1 (masked by: package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (02 Sep 2008) # Removed at maintainer's request in 30 days by the treecleaners. # Please don't waste cds trying to use this program, bug 227143 ... done! [ebuild R ] media-sound/bmpx-0.40.14 USE=hal startup-notification* -debug -doc -modplug -networkmanager -sid 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 USE=alsa css dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -arts* -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.3 USE=acpi gnome gstreamer hal ipv6 -apm -debug -doc (-test%) 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-sound/exaile-0.2.13 USE=alsa gnome jpeg libnotify* libsexy mad nls ogg png vorbis -aac -cdparanoia -equalizer -flac -ipod -musepack -oss* 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/digikam-0.9.2 USE=-arts* -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -nfs -xinerama LINGUAS=-ar -bg -br -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gl -he -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -mt -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -sk -sl -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW 10,268 kB [nomerge ] media-gfx/tgif-4.1.45 USE=kde [?] [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.9 USE=cups kde -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf* -arts* -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea% -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama (-tetex%) 0 kB [ebuild R ] dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.12.7 USE=-accessibility -debug -doc -examples -test% 14,843 kB [nomerge ] media-sound/exaile-0.2.13 USE=alsa gnome jpeg libnotify* libsexy mad nls ogg png vorbis -aac -cdparanoia -equalizer -flac -ipod -musepack -oss* [ebuild N] dev-python/notify-python-0.1.1 210 kB [nomerge ] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22.0 USE=X eds -debug -doc [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB [ebuild R ] net-irc/xchat-2.8.6-r1 USE=dbus ipv6 libnotify* nls perl python spell ssl -debug -mmx -tcl -xchatdccserver -xchatnogtk -xft% 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.4.5 USE=alsa dbus esd gnome mp3 nls sdl vorbis -aac -adplug -arts* -chardet -flac -jack -lirc -modplug -mtp -musepack -oss* -pulseaudio -sid -sndfile -sse2 -timidity -tta -wavpack -wma 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-text/dvipng-1.11 USE=truetype -test% 0 kB [ebuild N] virtual/texi2dvi-0 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-text/tetex-3.0_p1-r6 USE=X -Xaw3d -doc -motif -neXt -tk (-lesstif%) 89,261 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-text/a2ps-4.13c-r6 USE=nls -cjk -emacs -latex% -vanilla (-tetex%) 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/cervisia-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-sound/kamix-0.6.6 USE=-arts* -debug -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] net-misc/kwebget-0.8.1 USE=-arts* -debug -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-sound/hydrogen-0.9.3-r2 USE=alsa -debug -doc -flac -jack -ladspa -oss* -portaudio 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shutterbug-1.6.34 [1.6.31] USE=jpeg png tiff* -debug -doc -profile 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.4 USE=X gtk
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:23:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]:
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde...
The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic
to split kde install) says one has first
to unmerge the old monolithic installation of
kde and the install the split stuff.
But regardless what I am doing...
emerge -C blocking item
shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and
the following
emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world
still shows that item being blocking new stuff.
I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but
from emerge's point of view it is still there.
How can I fix that problem ?
You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different
package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and
that in turn conflicts with what you want to install now.
Post the full output of 'emerge -pvuNDt world' and we'll deciphyer it for
you
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Hi Alan!
Here it comes:
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies - app-cdr/mp3burn-0.3.3-r1 (masked by:
package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (02 Sep 2008)
# Removed at maintainer's request in 30 days by the treecleaners.
# Please don't waste cds trying to use this program, bug 227143
Aside: You probably want to unmerge this one above too
[snip]
[ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9
USE=opengl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB
That is a monolithic package, but portage wants to Replace it, which means it
was never uninstalled. I'll give you the short version, followed by the
(longer) explanation of what happened:
Short version:
- unmerge all these packages (list ripped straight out from the kde ebuild)
RDEPEND=~kde-base/kdelibs-${PV}
~kde-base/kdebase-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeaddons-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeadmin-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeartwork-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeedu-${PV}
~kde-base/kdegames-${PV}
~kde-base/kdegraphics-${PV}
~kde-base/kdemultimedia-${PV}
~kde-base/kdenetwork-${PV}
~kde-base/kdepim-${PV}
~kde-base/kdetoys-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeutils-${PV}
~kde-base/kdewebdev-${PV}
accessibility? ( ~kde-base/kdeaccessibility-${PV} )
- run 'emerge -av --depclean' as a sanity check. The output should be obvious,
it might list a few more kde packages that you missed. Unmerge those, but
note their names in case you want to put them back later
- emerge kde-meta (or if you prefer to get a smaller set instead of all of kde
follow the handbook and emerge just the -meta packages you want)
Long version:
The traditional kde packages in portage (from long long ago) mirrored the
organization of how the kde project released their stuff - as 16 or so huge
packages. The kde ebuild by itself does nothing, if you look inside you'll
see it's just a huge RDEPEND. The 16 packages in that are the ones that
actually install kde.
You seem to have at one point emerged kde, and got all 16 packages with it.
Then you unmerged kde, which worked OK except that it left the other 16 in
place, and they promptly blocked all the kde-meta stuff.
The monolithic ebuilds block the -meta ebuilds as they duplicate each other.
You have to choose one or the other and can't mix them in any way. It may
have been possible to write some fancy code in the -meta ebuilds to unmerge
old packages and install the equivalent new ones but that would have been a
major pain in the ass and is guaranteed to work for most users and completely
destroy some other user's system. So the devs instead made the sane choice of
forcing you to make up your mind and first setting up your machine correctly
the way you want it.
humour mode on
This is TheOneTruGentooWay(tm), a devious evil policy whereby gentoo devs
assume that you are in fact a really super-intelligent person who can make up
their own mind, who is absolutely not an idiot and knows what they want.
As you can see this is a wonderful way to work, but it also means that you get
to be responsible for your own machine and wade through 100s of lines of
portage output so you can decide what it is that you really want.
/humour mode off
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:14]:
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:23:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]:
On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde...
The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic
to split kde install) says one has first
to unmerge the old monolithic installation of
kde and the install the split stuff.
But regardless what I am doing...
emerge -C blocking item
shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and
the following
emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world
still shows that item being blocking new stuff.
I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but
from emerge's point of view it is still there.
How can I fix that problem ?
You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different
package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and
that in turn conflicts with what you want to install now.
Post the full output of 'emerge -pvuNDt world' and we'll deciphyer it for
you
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Hi Alan!
Here it comes:
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies - app-cdr/mp3burn-0.3.3-r1 (masked by:
package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (02 Sep 2008)
# Removed at maintainer's request in 30 days by the treecleaners.
# Please don't waste cds trying to use this program, bug 227143
Aside: You probably want to unmerge this one above too
[snip]
[ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9
USE=opengl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB
That is a monolithic package, but portage wants to Replace it, which means it
was never uninstalled. I'll give you the short version, followed by the
(longer) explanation of what happened:
Short version:
- unmerge all these packages (list ripped straight out from the kde ebuild)
RDEPEND=~kde-base/kdelibs-${PV}
~kde-base/kdebase-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeaddons-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeadmin-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeartwork-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeedu-${PV}
~kde-base/kdegames-${PV}
~kde-base/kdegraphics-${PV}
~kde-base/kdemultimedia-${PV}
~kde-base/kdenetwork-${PV}
~kde-base/kdepim-${PV}
~kde-base/kdetoys-${PV}
~kde-base/kdeutils-${PV}
~kde-base/kdewebdev-${PV}
accessibility? ( ~kde-base/kdeaccessibility-${PV} )
- run 'emerge -av --depclean' as a sanity check. The output should be
obvious,
it might list a few more kde packages that you missed. Unmerge those, but
note their names in case you want to put them back later
- emerge kde-meta (or if you prefer to get a smaller set instead of all of
kde
follow the handbook and emerge just the -meta packages you want)
Long version:
The traditional kde packages in portage (from long long ago) mirrored the
organization of how the kde project released their stuff - as 16 or so huge
packages. The kde ebuild by itself does nothing, if you look inside you'll
see it's just a huge RDEPEND. The 16 packages in that are the ones that
actually install kde.
You seem to have at one point emerged kde, and got all 16 packages with it.
Then you unmerged kde, which worked OK except that it left the other 16 in
place, and they promptly blocked all the kde-meta stuff.
The monolithic ebuilds block the -meta ebuilds as they duplicate each other.
You have to choose one or the other and can't mix them in any way. It may
have been possible to write some fancy code in the -meta ebuilds to unmerge
old packages and install the equivalent new ones but that would have been a
major pain in the ass and is guaranteed to work for most users and completely
destroy some other user's system. So the devs instead made the sane choice of
forcing you to make up your mind and first setting up your machine correctly
the way you want it.
humour mode on
This is TheOneTruGentooWay(tm), a devious evil policy whereby gentoo devs
assume that you are in fact a really super-intelligent person who can make up
their own mind, who is absolutely not an idiot and knows what they want.
As you can see this is a wonderful way to work, but it also means that you
get
to be responsible for your own machine and wade through 100s of lines of
portage output so you can decide what it is that you really want.
/humour mode off
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Hi Alan,
yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these
packages.
It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing
a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to
unmerge all packages in question) emerge thinks, that all that is
still
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular line reminds me of this quite fresh bug at bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239490 Maybe some of your unstable gnome stuff is causing some weird side-effects? What if this gnome's unstable gail- and gtk+-related issue is first fixed by that hint in that bug's last comment? -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular line reminds me of this quite fresh bug at bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239490 Maybe some of your unstable gnome stuff is causing some weird side-effects? What if this gnome's unstable gail- and gtk+-related issue is first fixed by that hint in that bug's last comment? -- Arttu V. No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/libkonq:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.9, kde-base/libkonq-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kfind-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdeprint:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kfind:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB solfire:/rootemerge -C /kdebase-kioslaves !!! The path '/kdebase-kioslaves' doesn't exist. solfire:/rootemerge -C kdebase-kioslaves --- Couldn't find 'kdebase-kioslaves' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to unmerge all packages in question) emerge thinks, that all that is still on my harddisc. See also my initial mail. Kind regards, Meino Cramer That sounds like an impossibility (or a portage bug that hits only you...) Can you supply the exact unmerge command you used? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to unmerge all packages in question) emerge thinks, that all that is still on my harddisc. See also my initial mail. Kind regards, Meino Cramer That sounds like an impossibility (or a portage bug that hits only you...) Can you supply the exact unmerge command you used? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com emerge -C package very simplistic... -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:50:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to unmerge all packages in question) emerge thinks, that all that is still on my harddisc. See also my initial mail. Kind regards, Meino Cramer That sounds like an impossibility (or a portage bug that hits only you...) Can you supply the exact unmerge command you used? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com emerge -C package very simplistic... Is it possible you missed some? Your earlier mail shows: [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf* -arts* -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea% -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama (-tetex%) 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts* -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts* -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts* -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB Those first 11 are definitely monolithic packages and are definitely installed according to portage. I can't assess how expert you are with portage, so I'll get the easy questions out of the way first. If those packages are in world, you have to explicitly remove them emerge -avC =kdegraphics-3.5.9 =kdeartwork-3.5.9 ... etc etc etc If they are not in world, just dependencies of kde-3.5.9 then emerge -av --depclean should be enough to remove them. The easy way to see if a package is in world is if a colourized emerge output lists in in bright green. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 18:20]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 17:50:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 17:49]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 16:19:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alan, yes, this is the point where I am currently: Trying to unmerge these packages. It works physically, but after unmerging the stuff and redoing a emerge -pvuNDt (as I did to send you the list after trying to unmerge all packages in question) emerge thinks, that all that is still on my harddisc. See also my initial mail. Kind regards, Meino Cramer That sounds like an impossibility (or a portage bug that hits only you...) Can you supply the exact unmerge command you used? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com emerge -C package very simplistic... Is it possible you missed some? Your earlier mail shows: [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf* -arts* -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea% -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama (-tetex%) 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts* -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts* -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts* -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts* -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB Those first 11 are definitely monolithic packages and are definitely installed according to portage. I can't assess how expert you are with portage, so I'll get the easy questions out of the way first. If those packages are in world, you have to explicitly remove them emerge -avC =kdegraphics-3.5.9 =kdeartwork-3.5.9 ... etc etc etc If they are not in world, just dependencies of kde-3.5.9 then emerge -av --depclean should be enough to remove them. The easy way to see if a package is in world is if a colourized emerge output lists in in bright green. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I am still in trouble here: emerge -avC says, that there no packages found with the name package-name (for example =kdegraphics-3.5.9 oder kdegraphics). emerge -av depclean fails with: solfire:/rootemerge --depclean *** WARNING *** Depclean may break link level dependencies. Thus, it is *** WARNING *** recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild` (from *** WARNING *** app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such breakage. *** WARNING *** *** WARNING *** Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious *** WARNING *** mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always *** WARNING *** be kept. They can be manually added to this set with *** WARNING *** `emerge --noreplace atom`. Packages that are listed in *** WARNING *** package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by *** WARNING *** depclean, even if they are part of the world set. *** WARNING *** *** WARNING *** As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages *** WARNING *** unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved. As a *** WARNING *** consequence, it is often necessary to run *** WARNING *** `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to depclean. Calculating dependencies... done! Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to the following required packages not being installed: =gnome-base/gail-1.1 required by gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.18.3 gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.3 =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9:3.5 required by kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9 kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9 ~x11-libs/fox-1.6.31 required by x11-misc/shutterbug-1.6.31 =media-video/totem-1.4.0 required by dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22.0 =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* required by net-p2p/ktorrent-2.2.7 sci-libs/gsl required by
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular line reminds me of this quite fresh bug at bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239490 Maybe some of your unstable gnome stuff is causing some weird side-effects? What if this gnome's unstable gail- and gtk+-related issue is first fixed by that hint in that bug's last comment? -- Arttu V. No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/libkonq:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.9, kde-base/libkonq-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kfind-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdeprint:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kfind:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB solfire:/rootemerge -C /kdebase-kioslaves !!! The path '/kdebase-kioslaves' doesn't exist. solfire:/rootemerge -C kdebase-kioslaves --- Couldn't find 'kdebase-kioslaves' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge Did you unmerge kdebase? m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 18:50]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 16:49]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] gnome-base/gail-1000 (is blocking x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3-r2) I'm no expert on this, but to me this looks like you're running some unstable gnome/gtk packages? This particular line reminds me of this quite fresh bug at bugs.gentoo.org: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239490 Maybe some of your unstable gnome stuff is causing some weird side-effects? What if this gnome's unstable gail- and gtk+-related issue is first fixed by that hint in that bug's last comment? -- Arttu V. No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker -xulrunner 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/libkonq:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.9, kde-base/libkonq-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kfind-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdeprint:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kfind:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB solfire:/rootemerge -C /kdebase-kioslaves !!! The path '/kdebase-kioslaves' doesn't exist. solfire:/rootemerge -C kdebase-kioslaves --- Couldn't find 'kdebase-kioslaves' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge Did you unmerge kdebase? m. yesno: emerge -C removes it (?) physically, but it is still reported by emerge... mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: snip/ Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB There is one blocker less, which is slightly better but certainly not a full solution. What worries me is if your portage doesn't find the kdegraphics package to remove -- as you wrote in your later email to Alan. Does it find any other installed monolithic kde packages to remove at all, i.e., what does this command print out (should be all on one line/command, probably gets wrapped in email client): emerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility The printout should tell us if you have any remnants of monolithic kde packages left. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 20:00]: Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 19:47:49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: solfire:/rootemerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility This take a too short time to do anything physically on my harddisc... Sure, because of -p(retend). It did nothing but show you what it _would_ do. Now run the command again without -p. This will remove 3.5.9 _and_ 3.4.3. Bye... Dirk ok, they are a part of yesterday... :) But: What has caused this logical circle? I will try to avoid it... Thanks you all for your help! Keep hacking! mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 19:47:49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: solfire:/rootemerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility This take a too short time to do anything physically on my harddisc... Sure, because of -p(retend). It did nothing but show you what it _would_ do. Now run the command again without -p. This will remove 3.5.9 _and_ 3.4.3. Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 18:55:28 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yesno: emerge -C removes it (?) physically, but it is still reported by emerge... The following may be just a wild guess, but who knows... You state you did an emerge -C of some packages, but the packages are still reported as present by portage/emerge, right? Did you ever check that the files from those packages are really gone? If they are, did you check wether only the entries for these packages are still in the portage database (/var/db/pkg)? HTH... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 19:38]: On 10/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it does not help. The current state (excerpt) is: snip/ Total: 23 packages (3 upgrades, 4 downgrades, 15 new, 1 in new slot, 18 blocks), Size of downloads: 63,220 kB There is one blocker less, which is slightly better but certainly not a full solution. What worries me is if your portage doesn't find the kdegraphics package to remove -- as you wrote in your later email to Alan. Does it find any other installed monolithic kde packages to remove at all, i.e., what does this command print out (should be all on one line/command, probably gets wrapped in email client): emerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility The printout should tell us if you have any remnants of monolithic kde packages left. -- Arttu V. The output: solfire:/rootemerge -pvC kdebase kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdeaccessibility These are the packages that would be unmerged: --- Couldn't find 'kdebase' to unmerge. --- Couldn't find 'kdeaccessibility' to unmerge. kde-base/kdeaddons selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdeadmin selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdeedu selected: 3.4.3-r10 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdenetwork selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdegames selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdeartwork selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdepim selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9-r1 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdemultimedia selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdewebdev selected: 3.4.3-r1 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdetoys selected: 3.4.3 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdegraphics selected: 3.5.9 protected: none omitted: none kde-base/kdeutils selected: 3.4.3-r1 3.5.9-r1 protected: none omitted: none This take a too short time to do anything physically on my harddisc... Then I did a emerge -pvuNDt world and beside other things I found again: [blocks B ] kde-base/kfind:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdeprint:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.9, kde-base/libkonq-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kfind-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/libkonq:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) Looks like something has gone...fingers crossed. How to kick the others ? Again with emerge -C package ??? I better ask in beforehand ... trying to avoid the next knot in logic ;) mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:44:36 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 18:55:28 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yesno: emerge -C removes it (?) physically, but it is still reported by emerge... The following may be just a wild guess, but who knows... You state you did an emerge -C of some packages, but the packages are still reported as present by portage/emerge, right? Did you ever check that the files from those packages are really gone? If they are, did you check wether only the entries for these packages are still in the portage database (/var/db/pkg)? Alan realises he's been daft, slaps head Do you have any other versions of KDE in a higher SLOT? If you SLOTted 4.something and 3.5, then unmerging the package without using a version/slot number will possibly remove the higher version number. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
It getting more confused: This morning I did a emerge -pvuNDt world again and it shows me nothing suspicious. But doing a emerge -pv kde still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) it reports packages of kde to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world same goes for emerge -pv gnome which shows me a bunch of gnome related packages to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world. It seems the world of emerge is smaller as my system ?!? What is wrong here? What did I so badly wrong? Kind regards, Meino Cramer Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and the following emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world still shows that item being blocking new stuff. I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but from emerge's point of view it is still there. How can I fix that problem ? You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and that in turn conflicts with what you want to install now. Post the full output of 'emerge -pvuNDt world' and we'll deciphyer it for you -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still kde problems with monolithic-split
Sorry, I mistyped some tings: I meant (hrrrmm): :) The /blocking/ items are only shown with emerge -pv kde. and emerge .pv gnome shows package to be updated. emerge -pvuNDt world shows no blocking items nor gnome packages to be updated. ...its too early in the morning (7.28 am). ;) Meino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-05 07:21]: It getting more confused: This morning I did a emerge -pvuNDt world again and it shows me nothing suspicious. But doing a emerge -pv kde still reports: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3 USE=branding cups hal ldap opengl pam -arts -debug -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.9 USE=alsa encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -arts -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -theora -xine -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kig-scripting -solver -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -tidy -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.9-r1 USE=-arts -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.9 USE=ssl -arts -debug -jingle -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -rdesktop -sametime -slp -wifi -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.9 USE=opengl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.9-r1 USE=crypt -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility (-pbbuttonsd) -snmp -xinerama -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.9 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.9 USE=opengl pdf -arts -debug -gphoto2 -imlib -kdeenablefinal -kpathsea -openexr -povray -scanner -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.9 USE=berkdb sdl -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-3.5.9 USE=-accessibility 0 kB [blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesktop:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.9-r1, kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.9, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9, kde-base/kicker-3.5.9, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.9, kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9, kde-base/kdm-3.5.9, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9, kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdm:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kcheckpass:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kdepasswd:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) [blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r3) it reports packages of kde to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world same goes for emerge -pv gnome which shows me a bunch of gnome related packages to be updated, which are not shown with emerge -pvuNDt world. It seems the world of emerge is smaller as my system ?!? What is wrong here? What did I so badly wrong? Kind regards, Meino Cramer Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-10-04 15:19]: On Saturday 04 October 2008 15:08:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, some time ago I asked what to do if kde blocks kde... The according HowTo (emergeing from monolithic to split kde install) says one has first to unmerge the old monolithic installation of kde and the install the split stuff. But regardless what I am doing... emerge -C blocking item shows me a rmoving action on my harddisc and the following emerge --pretend --color=n --verbose --update --deep world still shows that item being blocking new stuff. I think _physically_ the old stuff is rmoved but from emerge's point of view it is still there. How can I fix that problem ? You didn't give any output, so I have to guess. Most likely a different package is still installed which needs the same kde you just removed and that in turn conflicts with what you want to
