Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 May 2007, sean wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 27 May 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
  I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that
  just crashed.
 
  I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the
  drive to
  mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.
 
  Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I
  might be able to make this happen?
 
  If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much
  nothing you can do.
 
  Wrong.
 
  If the drive suffered a head crash, you would be amazed what data
  recovery experts can do.

 They are very expensive, if I recall correctly?

If you mean expensive as in the price tag is a largeish number, then the 
answer is yes.

But some data is priceless. One of our notebooks in the office had a 
disk crash two months back, no backups. The final cost was 50% the 
price of a new high end notebook, the cost of never getting that data 
back ever again was the loss of a 7 figure contract. For us, it was 
dirt cheap :-)

If your friend needs to get back data that means something to them but 
is otherwise not valuable, then they might be in for a shock

alan



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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:13:58 -0400
sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
  sean wrote:
  I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
  crashed.
 
  I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the
  drive to mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for
  her.
 
  Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might
  be able to make this happen?
  
  What happened when you tried to mount it (and is it formatted NTFS
  or FATXX)?
  
  If the disk has real errors (i.e bad sectors as opposed to
  software/windows problems), then app-forensics/autopsy might get the
  important user data off.
  
  Cheers
  
  Mark
 
 Tried to mount it as NTFS.
 
 Not familiar with this software, will have to check it out.
 
   Thanks
   Sean
There are things you can do if - AND ONLY IF - the drive doesn't work
when used as usual.  Don't try this until you're sure there's no other
option.  Also, I have never done this, but have had it explained to me
by 2 techs, one who owns his own shop, and another who worked
at compUSA, in the tech department, and I belive them. 

The first thing you can try is to freeze the drive.  How to keep the
condensation out, I don't know.. I seem to recall seeing a drive in an
antistatic bag in a freezer but I don't know the details.  hopefully
the internet can fill them in. You might also try keeping it cold with
compressed air cleaning canisters held upside down, or using them for
light cooling by themselves.  Look into it, at any rate, because I
think this one's promising.  

Secondly, a drive sometimes needs a little 'encouragement' before it'll
cough up the data.  Try tapping , nudging, or banging it around a
little before you decide to throw it away.

I certainly hope this helps a bit.  This is of course a last resort --
people are probably going to say it's rediculous, but there's no loss
at the point of your trashing the disk.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-29 Thread sean
Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 27 May 2007 14:36, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
 I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
 crashed.

 I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive
 to
 mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

 Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
 able to make this happen?
 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing
 you can do.
 
 On the other hand if it is a matter of an MS OS crash, just use a LiveCD and 
 save the data onto a DVD/CDROM, CF memory stick, or a server.
 

Tried something like that, no good.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-29 Thread sean
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 27 May 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
 I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
 crashed.

 I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the
 drive to
 mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

 Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might
 be able to make this happen?
 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much
 nothing you can do.
 
 
 Wrong.
 
 If the drive suffered a head crash, you would be amazed what data 
 recovery experts can do.

They are very expensive, if I recall correctly?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-29 Thread sean
Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
 I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
 crashed.

 I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive
 to
 mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

 Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
 able to make this happen? 
 
 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing
 you can do.  
 --
 Albert W. Hopkins
 

I think it is such a crash.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-29 Thread sean
Mark Kirkwood wrote:
 sean wrote:
 I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
 crashed.

 I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to
 mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

 Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
 able to make this happen?
 
 What happened when you tried to mount it (and is it formatted NTFS or
 FATXX)?
 
 If the disk has real errors (i.e bad sectors as opposed to
 software/windows problems), then app-forensics/autopsy might get the
 important user data off.
 
 Cheers
 
 Mark

Tried to mount it as NTFS.

Not familiar with this software, will have to check it out.

Thanks
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 May 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
  I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
  crashed.
 
  I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the
  drive to
  mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.
 
  Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might
  be able to make this happen?

 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much
 nothing you can do.


Wrong.

If the drive suffered a head crash, you would be amazed what data 
recovery experts can do.

But true enough, there might be very little that sean personally and by 
himself can do :-)

alan

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[gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-27 Thread sean
I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed.

I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to
mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
able to make this happen?


Thanks
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
 I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
 crashed.
 
 I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive
 to
 mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.
 
 Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
 able to make this happen? 

If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing
you can do.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-27 Thread Mick
On Sunday 27 May 2007 14:36, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote:
  I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just
  crashed.
 
  I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive
  to
  mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.
 
  Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
  able to make this happen?

 If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing
 you can do.

On the other hand if it is a matter of an MS OS crash, just use a LiveCD and 
save the data onto a DVD/CDROM, CF memory stick, or a server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk

2007-05-27 Thread Mark Kirkwood

sean wrote:

I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed.

I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to
mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her.

Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be
able to make this happen?


What happened when you tried to mount it (and is it formatted NTFS or 
FATXX)?


If the disk has real errors (i.e bad sectors as opposed to 
software/windows problems), then app-forensics/autopsy might get the 
important user data off.


Cheers

Mark
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