Re: [gentoo-user] building kde-meta

2008-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 21 August 2008 20:24:55 Chuck Robey wrote:
 This email comments on something dealing with an emerge package issue; if
 this is the wrong list to put that into, let me know, I'll try again.

 I'm trying to emerge kde-base/kde-meta.  As I ordinarily do with things I
 know will have lots of dependencies, I ran emerge --pretend on it to see
 if I was all right with the list of dependencies.  In this case, one of the
 items listed was kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.9.  Now, correct me if I'm wrong,
 but the stuff that says i18n is referring to a version that supports a
 Russian character list. That's truly useless for me (and, I would think,
 the great majority of users in the USA).  What I wanted to ask is, having
 that file as a default dependency of kde-meta, isn't that hugely wrong?  I
 mean, shouldn't a user have to slect that in, not have it get installed by
 default?  I mean, you should need to have something like that in your USE
 flags, shouldn't you?

 Or, am I getting something wrong in understanding what an app labeled with
 i18n would mean?

It's not a default dependency:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base/kde-meta $ grep i18n *ebuildkde-
meta-3.5.9.ebuild:nls? ( =kde-base/kde-i18n-${PV}:${SLOT} )


So it's only pulled in if you have the nls USE flag set. Engligh-speaking 
Americans probably have no need for this, and can unset it


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] building kde-meta

2008-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
This email comments on something dealing with an emerge package issue; if this
is the wrong list to put that into, let me know, I'll try again.

I'm trying to emerge kde-base/kde-meta.  As I ordinarily do with things I know
will have lots of dependencies, I ran emerge --pretend on it to see if I was
all right with the list of dependencies.  In this case, one of the items listed
was kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.9.  Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the stuff that
says i18n is referring to a version that supports a Russian character list.
That's truly useless for me (and, I would think, the great majority of users in
the USA).  What I wanted to ask is, having that file as a default dependency of
kde-meta, isn't that hugely wrong?  I mean, shouldn't a user have to slect that
in, not have it get installed by default?  I mean, you should need to have
something like that in your USE flags, shouldn't you?

Or, am I getting something wrong in understanding what an app labeled with
i18n would mean?



Re: [gentoo-user] building kde-meta

2008-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:24:55 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:

 Or, am I getting something wrong in understanding what an app labeled
 with i18n would mean?

Yes. i18n is an abbreviation of internationalisation. The Cold War is
over, even Americans are expected to know of the existence of nations
other than Russia now ;-)

-- 
Neil Bothwick

Avoid temporary variables and strange women.


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Re: [gentoo-user] building kde-meta

2008-08-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 21. August 2008, Chuck Robey wrote:
 This email comments on something dealing with an emerge package issue; if
 this is the wrong list to put that into, let me know, I'll try again.

 I'm trying to emerge kde-base/kde-meta.  As I ordinarily do with things I
 know will have lots of dependencies, I ran emerge --pretend on it to see
 if I was all right with the list of dependencies.  In this case, one of the
 items listed was kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.9.  Now, correct me if I'm wrong,
 but the stuff that says i18n is referring to a version that supports a
 Russian character list. That's truly useless for me (and, I would think,
 the great majority of users in the USA).  What I wanted to ask is, having
 that file as a default dependency of kde-meta, isn't that hugely wrong?  I
 mean, shouldn't a user have to slect that in, not have it get installed by
 default?  I mean, you should need to have something like that in your USE
 flags, shouldn't you?

 Or, am I getting something wrong in understanding what an app labeled with
 i18n would mean?

i18n is all kind of 'internationalisation'. Not only russian characters.