Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:32:20 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > no, the 2.12.1 binpackage does not know which versions are installed. > It just includes a version check. > If no glibc is installed (and removing > the /var/db/pkg/sys-libs/glibc-2.13 directory = no glibc installed) > then you are

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 10 February 2011 18:24:51 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:10:06 -0800 (PST), Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > The trouble is that binpkgs keep a copy of the ebuild in them, so > > > even if you remove the downgrade check fro the in-tree ebuild, it > > > still fails. That

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:10:06 -0800 (PST), Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > The trouble is that binpkgs keep a copy of the ebuild in them, so > > even if you remove the downgrade check fro the in-tree ebuild, it > > still fails. That one had me scratching my head for a few minutes. > > what happe

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 10 February 2011 00:02:07 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:48:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > And it's very difficult to downgrade it due to that hidden barf check > > in the ebuild. I have yet to find a supported, documented way to back > > out of glibc screw-ups; my wa

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:50:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:09:14 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > >> (1) I never use testing versions of system pkgs like Glibc & > > Someone has to or they'll never get tested. > > Come on ! -- not on a production system ! Who mentioned prod

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Philip Webb
110210 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:09:14 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> (1) I never use testing versions of system pkgs like Glibc & > Someone has to or they'll never get tested. Come on ! -- not on a production system ! >> (2) I have FEATURES="buildsyspkg" in make.conf . > It d

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:09:14 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > (1) I never use testing versions of system pkgs like Glibc & Someone has to or they'll never get tested. > (2) I have FEATURES="buildsyspkg" in make.conf . It didn't help here. > Beyond those, I'ld say Gentoo users are grown-ups who do

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Philip Webb
110210 Alan McKinnon wrote: > glibc is problematic, it's tentacles run very deep in any GNU system, > it has a less than stellar history in terms of breaking gentoo systems, > mostly due to inadequate testing before releasing to ~arch. > it's v difficult to downgrade it due to that hidden barf chec

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:48:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > And it's very difficult to downgrade it due to that hidden barf check > in the ebuild. I have yet to find a supported, documented way to back > out of glibc screw-ups; my way is to keep binpkgs of @system and use > those. > The trouble i

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:23 on Thursday 10 February 2011, Nils Holland did opine thusly: > On 13:34 Mon 07 Feb , Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on m

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:23:50 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: > Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, glibc 2.13 > krept onto my first machine Monday night - I generally test new > versions of such "far reaching" stuff as glibc on a single machine > first before letting to onto all of

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Nils Holland
On 13:34 Mon 07 Feb , Neil Bothwick wrote: > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my > desktop and home server and broke both. Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, gli

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 09 2011, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:03:36 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> > The postfix issue is separate and needs a glibc downgrade to fix. >> >> I am not sure I understand. I did the glibc upgrade and have not >> downgraded. I run postfix and my mail is comin

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:03:36 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > The postfix issue is separate and needs a glibc downgrade to fix. > > I am not sure I understand. I did the glibc upgrade and have not > downgraded. I run postfix and my mail is coming and going. I had > thought/hoped that postfix

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Feb 08 2011, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:37:41 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. >> > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on >> > my >> > desktop and home server and br

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:36:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Wetware works different to software. Yes, you can't reboot it whenever it annoys you. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:23 on Wednesday 09 February 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:49:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > hehe, I'm safe :-) > > > > I've hardmasked >=glibc-2.12 ever since the blatantly untested cock up > > that was the first testing vers

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:49:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > hehe, I'm safe :-) > > I've hardmasked >=glibc-2.12 ever since the blatantly untested cock up > that was the first testing version of glibc-2.12 hit the tree Now if only you could mask your smugness plugin :P

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:34 on Monday 07 February 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my > desktop and home server and broke both. hehe, I'

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:37:41 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on > > my > > desktop and home server and broke both. > > Has anybody tried this > http://

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-08 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 02/07/2011 02:34:52 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on > my > desktop and home server and broke both. Has anybody tried this http://psykil.livejournal.com/34080

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:16:20 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > don't use prelink - but postfix still Works For Me(tm) That's odd, it broke local deliveries for me - and others. Fortunately, nothing was lost, it just stayed in the queue while I recompiled glibc. -- Neil Bothwick Am I ignora

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-07 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Feb 07 2011, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 13:34:52 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. >> After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my >> desktop and home server and broke both

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-07 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Monday 07 February 2011, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my > desktop and home server and broke both. confirmed, prelink kills the system! running prelink -u rest

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 07 February 2011 13:34:52 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. > After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my > desktop and home server and broke both. sys-libs/glibc Available versions: (2.2) [P]*2

[gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my desktop and home server and broke both. -- Neil Bothwick All mail what i send is thoughly proof-red, definately! signature.asc Description: PGP signat