Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Sunday, 15 October 2023 03:43:00 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > On 14/10/23 21:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:26:29 BST I wrote: > >> Perhaps I should switch to getmail... > > > > On the other hand, I'd prefer to stick with fetchmail for my Zen POP3 > > account, since it's working well. Then I could use getmail to fetch my > > gmail mail. Would that be safe? > > > > If it works I could move Zen mail to getmail later, at my leisure. > > (That's the only sort of time I have these days... :( ) > > getmail works fine with gmail - just follow their instructions to configure. I'm sure it does - just not for me. I've followed Google's instructions to the letter, but still no joy. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Sunday, 15 October 2023 10:45:45 BST Michael wrote: > The workarounds I have devised are: > > 1. Close Kmail, restart it and keep an eye on the progress bar to confirm it > has finished synchronizing all folders with remote IMAP servers, before I > click on anything else. > > 2. If the above does not succeed I close Kmail and run 'akonadictl stop', > before I restart it. > > 3. If the problem is not resolved, I repeat step 2 above and proceed to run: Yes, I did allow plenty of time for synchronising - hours, in fact. > akonadictl start > akonadictl fsck (wait for it to finish) > akonadi vacuum (wait for it to finish) I didn't think of that. > then relaunch Kmail. > > 4. A last resort is to launch akonadiconsole, go to the Browser tab and > delete any messages there. > > I anyone knows of a better solution, other than trying alternative mail > clients, please post back. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:26:29 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > I also tried setting up a gmail IMAP source in KMail, and that worked so I > assume the permissions are right at their end. (I removed the account when > KMail kept resurrecting scores of mails I'd already deleted, even though > access on my mobile showed an absence of mails.) A bit O/T, but since you mention it I have observed the same behavior here with Kmail. Different users, different email accounts (inc. Gmail). At times, emails which have been deleted and even emptied from the Bin/Trash folder reappear. Deleted again, only to reappear. This can carry on for a while until the user gets so annoyed as to close Kmail. I am not sure what causes this, but I suspect Kmail/akonadi does not like multiple user inputs in close succession, while it is still synchronising previous local changes to the remote IMAP folder(s). For example, I have observed if a number of messages are selected and deleted, then without waiting for Kmail progress bar to finish you move to a different folder and delete a message, you are most likely to trigger this problem. The more impatient a user is and the more accounts they have configured, the more often deleted messages tend to reappear in their Kmail. A variation of the same problem is when new messages are shown in the Folder List, but none appears when you select the folder to look at its contents. Pressing F5 or Update This Folder/Subfolders does not help. The workarounds I have devised are: 1. Close Kmail, restart it and keep an eye on the progress bar to confirm it has finished synchronizing all folders with remote IMAP servers, before I click on anything else. 2. If the above does not succeed I close Kmail and run 'akonadictl stop', before I restart it. 3. If the problem is not resolved, I repeat step 2 above and proceed to run: akonadictl start akonadictl fsck (wait for it to finish) akonadi vacuum (wait for it to finish) then relaunch Kmail. 4. A last resort is to launch akonadiconsole, go to the Browser tab and delete any messages there. I anyone knows of a better solution, other than trying alternative mail clients, please post back. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On 14/10/23 21:28, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:26:29 BST I wrote: Perhaps I should switch to getmail... On the other hand, I'd prefer to stick with fetchmail for my Zen POP3 account, since it's working well. Then I could use getmail to fetch my gmail mail. Would that be safe? If it works I could move Zen mail to getmail later, at my leisure. (That's the only sort of time I have these days... :( ) getmail works fine with gmail - just follow their instructions to configure. getmail itself is a bit flakey - using it with hydroxide as a proton bridge it keeps going to sleep(need to restart getmail every hour), and on 3 accounts with my ISP I get random crashes with no indication why. But with gmail and ventraip.mail its quite stable. On the plus side imap getmail IDLE works ... I had problems with fetchmail so moved to getmail. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 14:28:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On the other hand, I'd prefer to stick with fetchmail for my Zen POP3 > account, since it's working well. Then I could use getmail to fetch my > gmail mail. Would that be safe? > > If it works I could move Zen mail to getmail later, at my leisure. > (That's the only sort of time I have these days... :( ) Here's my getmail config for Zen [retriever] type = SimplePOP3Retriever server = mailhost.zen.co.uk username = zen123456 password = yeahyeahyeah [destination] type = MDA_external path = /usr/bin/procmail [options] verbose = 0 read_all = false -- Neil Bothwick You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. pgpAw6u2sYpM6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:26:29 BST I wrote: > Perhaps I should switch to getmail... On the other hand, I'd prefer to stick with fetchmail for my Zen POP3 account, since it's working well. Then I could use getmail to fetch my gmail mail. Would that be safe? If it works I could move Zen mail to getmail later, at my leisure. (That's the only sort of time I have these days... :( ) -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Saturday, 14 October 2023 08:04:27 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > I use this getmail config for GMail. It uses procmail to deliver to > Docecot, but it should work as a starting point for you. ---<8 Thanks for the help, Neil. Until now I've been using fetchmail, but I can't find any help in using it, and this entry in /etc/fetchmailrc fails with a permission error: poll pop.gmail.com proto pop3, user ".gmail.com", with password "", is "prh" here, ssl, dropdelivered, fetchall, no keep; I also tried setting up a gmail IMAP source in KMail, and that worked so I assume the permissions are right at their end. (I removed the account when KMail kept resurrecting scores of mails I'd already deleted, even though access on my mobile showed an absence of mails.) Perhaps I should switch to getmail... -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 06:02:21 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 09:55:10 BST William Kenworthy wrote:
> > getmail can facilitate getting googlemail into postfix. In my case,
> > it fetches an mail then invokes sendemail to forward into postfix.
> > The docs for the google side of the equation are quite good.
>
> Coming to this after a while, can you point me to the one that helps,
> please? I've had a look round but I haven't found anything helpful.
> Thanks.
I use this getmail config for GMail. It uses procmail to deliver to
Docecot, but it should work as a starting point for you.
[retriever]
type = SimpleIMAPSSLRetriever
server = imap.gmail.com
username = neil.bothw...@gmail.com
password = thisisnotmyrealpassword
mailboxes = ('Inbox',)
[destination]
type = MDA_external
path = /usr/bin/procmail
[options]
verbose = 0
read_all = false
delete = true
--
Neil Bothwick
Drink varnish and you'll have a lovely finish.
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Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 09:55:10 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > getmail can facilitate getting googlemail into postfix. In my case, it > fetches an mail then invokes sendemail to forward into postfix. The > docs for the google side of the equation are quite good. Coming to this after a while, can you point me to the one that helps, please? I've had a look round but I haven't found anything helpful. Thanks. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On 6/20/23 02:30, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 06:29:52 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication failed. white postfix/smtp[32223]: 62E5618008F: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109]:587, delay=2390, delays=2390/0.01/0.29/0, dsn=4.7.8, status=deferred (SASL authentication failed; server smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109] said: 535-5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at?535 5.7.8 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials n3-20020aa78a4300b00663b712bfbdsm4668932pfa.57 - gsmtp) relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem smtp_use_tls = yes /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd [smtp.gmail.com]:587usern...@gmail.com:PASSWORD postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd /etc/init.d/postfix restart The user and password are correct. I think I know what the problem is - but I do not use postfix and can't confirm it on my side: Since mid 2022 Google requires 2FA to allow login into their server. Until then it used to be the case you could select in their security settings to "Allow Less Secure Apps", generate an application specific password hash using their GUI and use this in your mail client. For a year now you won't be able to do this, unless you first provide a mobile phone number to Google. If you *must* use Google, they you'll have to login into their Google account security panel, set 2FA, attempt to connect with your postfix client, create an application pass code hash for your postfix via their GUI and use that as your password in your postfix settings. If you change your IP address, or your PC/client, or anything else Google are using to fingerprint and profile your device, then you'll have to login again in their GUI to confirm you are who you are and your client is a legitimate device owned by you. They have many relevant help pages to explain all this, so you should search for specific guidance, or find another email provider with less onerous user profiling demands. ;-) HTH I setup a Twilio trial account with bash-scrip to send me SMS if the remote IP changes (on a cron job every hr.) and it works, but I'm not sure how log the account will be free. # Twilio credentials TWILIO_ACCOUNT_SID="xxx" TWILIO_AUTH_TOKEN="" TWILIO_PHONE_NUMBER="+x" TO_PHONE_NUMBER="+" # File to store the last known IP address IP_FILE="/home/user/ip_address.txt" # Read the last known IP address from the file OLD_IP=$(cat "$IP_FILE") # Query the "what is my ip" service to get the current IP address NEW_IP=$(curl -s https://api.ipify.org) # Compare the new IP address with the old one if [[ "$NEW_IP" != "$OLD_IP" ]]; then echo "Your IP address has changed to $NEW_IP" # Send a Twilio message with the new IP address MESSAGE="New IP address: $NEW_IP" curl -X POST "https://api.twilio.com/2010-04-01/Accounts/$TWILIO_ACCOUNT_SID/Messages.json; \ --data-urlencode "To=$TO_PHONE_NUMBER" \ --data-urlencode "From=$TWILIO_PHONE_NUMBER" \ --data-urlencode "Body=$MESSAGE" \ -u "$TWILIO_ACCOUNT_SID:$TWILIO_AUTH_TOKEN" # Update the IP file with the new IP address echo "$NEW_IP" > "$IP_FILE" else echo "Your IP address is still $OLD_IP" fi
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Tue, 2023-06-20 at 12:09 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Any better solution for me, to get a remote system new IP address. > > Telus has a tendency of changing the static IP without any warning, it > happened to me in the middle of ssh connection with the remote system. Dynamic DNS is what you want. Example: I have a subdomain set up (whatever-i-feel-like.mydomain.tech) and some software to update it. Of course, this is dependent on a combination of 1) software and 2) service that is supported by the software. In my case, I use OpnSense and their dynamic client updating my DNS on Namecheap using an API key. Perhaps someone has a more simple/elegant solution, but mine required no change of software or service and it is extremely reliable.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On 6/20/23 02:30, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 06:29:52 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication failed. white postfix/smtp[32223]: 62E5618008F: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109]:587, delay=2390, delays=2390/0.01/0.29/0, dsn=4.7.8, status=deferred (SASL authentication failed; server smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109] said: 535-5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at?535 5.7.8 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials n3-20020aa78a4300b00663b712bfbdsm4668932pfa.57 - gsmtp) relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem smtp_use_tls = yes /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd [smtp.gmail.com]:587usern...@gmail.com:PASSWORD postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd /etc/init.d/postfix restart The user and password are correct. I think I know what the problem is - but I do not use postfix and can't confirm it on my side: Since mid 2022 Google requires 2FA to allow login into their server. Until then it used to be the case you could select in their security settings to "Allow Less Secure Apps", generate an application specific password hash using their GUI and use this in your mail client. For a year now you won't be able to do this, unless you first provide a mobile phone number to Google. If you *must* use Google, they you'll have to login into their Google account security panel, set 2FA, attempt to connect with your postfix client, create an application pass code hash for your postfix via their GUI and use that as your password in your postfix settings. If you change your IP address, or your PC/client, or anything else Google are using to fingerprint and profile your device, then you'll have to login again in their GUI to confirm you are who you are and your client is a legitimate device owned by you. They have many relevant help pages to explain all this, so you should search for specific guidance, or find another email provider with less onerous user profiling demands. ;-) HTH Thank you Michael for detail explanation. So it seems to me that what I want to do will not work. I have a static IP with Telus on a remote location (trying to save $10) and whenever IP on the remote location changes I would run a script that would send me an email with a new IP address of the remote system. But from what you are describing, it will not work. "...If you change your IP address, or your PC/client, or anything else Google are using to fingerprint and profile your device, then you'll have to login again in their GUI to confirm you are who you are and your client is a legitimate device owned by you." So if the remote IP will change I have to re-initiate the fingerprint profile via Google GUI. So much for trying to save $10.00 Any better solution for me, to get a remote system new IP address. Telus has a tendency of changing the static IP without any warning, it happened to me in the middle of ssh connection with the remote system.
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
Thelma, On Monday, 2023-06-19 23:29:52 -0600, you wrote: > Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication > failed. > ... > The user and password are correct. Starting at 2022-06-01 Google requires either an application password or OAuth2 for logging in. Check the Gentoo archives for a thread with sub- ject `Google and "fetchmail" + "ssmtp"´ started by me at 2022-03-17. This thread refers to an article on the Web describing how to support OAuth2 for Fetchmail and Postfix and also contains a detailed descripti- on of my personal solution using OAuth2 with neither Fetchmail nor Post- fix, which still works. Sincerely, Rainer
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
getmail can facilitate getting googlemail into postfix. In my case, it fetches an mail then invokes sendemail to forward into postfix. The docs for the google side of the equation are quite good. BillK On 20/6/23 16:30, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 06:29:52 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication failed. white postfix/smtp[32223]: 62E5618008F: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109]:587, delay=2390, delays=2390/0.01/0.29/0, dsn=4.7.8, status=deferred (SASL authentication failed; server smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109] said: 535-5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at?535 5.7.8 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials n3-20020aa78a4300b00663b712bfbdsm4668932pfa.57 - gsmtp) relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem smtp_use_tls = yes /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd [smtp.gmail.com]:587usern...@gmail.com:PASSWORD postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd /etc/init.d/postfix restart The user and password are correct. I think I know what the problem is - but I do not use postfix and can't confirm it on my side: Since mid 2022 Google requires 2FA to allow login into their server. Until then it used to be the case you could select in their security settings to "Allow Less Secure Apps", generate an application specific password hash using their GUI and use this in your mail client. For a year now you won't be able to do this, unless you first provide a mobile phone number to Google. If you *must* use Google, they you'll have to login into their Google account security panel, set 2FA, attempt to connect with your postfix client, create an application pass code hash for your postfix via their GUI and use that as your password in your postfix settings. If you change your IP address, or your PC/client, or anything else Google are using to fingerprint and profile your device, then you'll have to login again in their GUI to confirm you are who you are and your client is a legitimate device owned by you. They have many relevant help pages to explain all this, so you should search for specific guidance, or find another email provider with less onerous user profiling demands. ;-) HTH
Re: [gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 06:29:52 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication > failed. > > white postfix/smtp[32223]: 62E5618008F: to=, > relay=smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109]:587, delay=2390, > delays=2390/0.01/0.29/0, dsn=4.7.8, status=deferred (SASL authentication > failed; server smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109] said: 535-5.7.8 Username and > Password not accepted. Learn more at?535 5.7.8 > https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials > n3-20020aa78a4300b00663b712bfbdsm4668932pfa.57 - gsmtp) > > relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 > smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes > smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd > smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous > smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem > smtp_use_tls = yes > > /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd > [smtp.gmail.com]:587usern...@gmail.com:PASSWORD > postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd > /etc/init.d/postfix restart > > The user and password are correct. I think I know what the problem is - but I do not use postfix and can't confirm it on my side: Since mid 2022 Google requires 2FA to allow login into their server. Until then it used to be the case you could select in their security settings to "Allow Less Secure Apps", generate an application specific password hash using their GUI and use this in your mail client. For a year now you won't be able to do this, unless you first provide a mobile phone number to Google. If you *must* use Google, they you'll have to login into their Google account security panel, set 2FA, attempt to connect with your postfix client, create an application pass code hash for your postfix via their GUI and use that as your password in your postfix settings. If you change your IP address, or your PC/client, or anything else Google are using to fingerprint and profile your device, then you'll have to login again in their GUI to confirm you are who you are and your client is a legitimate device owned by you. They have many relevant help pages to explain all this, so you should search for specific guidance, or find another email provider with less onerous user profiling demands. ;-) HTH signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] google SMTP with postfix - Password not accepted
Trying to send email via Google SMTP and postfix but getting authentication failed. white postfix/smtp[32223]: 62E5618008F: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109]:587, delay=2390, delays=2390/0.01/0.29/0, dsn=4.7.8, status=deferred (SASL authentication failed; server smtp.gmail.com[173.194.203.109] said: 535-5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at?535 5.7.8 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials n3-20020aa78a4300b00663b712bfbdsm4668932pfa.57 - gsmtp) relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem smtp_use_tls = yes /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd [smtp.gmail.com]:587 usern...@gmail.com:PASSWORD postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd /etc/init.d/postfix restart The user and password are correct.
