Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:12:13PM -0600, John Jolet wrote and your pick for client-side portable code is??? Client-side code is inherently risky. The website is executing a program on your machine. It's not that much different from allowing people to telnet on to your machine anonymously

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-25 Thread John Jolet
On Dec 25, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:12:13PM -0600, John Jolet wrote and your pick for client-side portable code is??? Client-side code is inherently risky. The website is executing a program on your machine. It's not that much different from

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread John Blinka
Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07:28AM -0500, Penguin Lover John Blinka squawked: Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site mentioned works great, its a simple javascript popping up a window, I even made a lot of these on my webmaster

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07:28AM -0500, Penguin Lover John Blinka squawked: Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site mentioned works great, its a simple javascript popping up a

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/19/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Eric Bliss
On Sunday 18 December 2005 12:46 pm, Willie Wong wrote: From my limited knowledge of javascript, I can't tell whether it is a badly written javascript that parses in IE but not in Firefox, or Firefox not supporting the full standard, or perhaps the site-designer used some IE-only extensions.

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread John Blinka
Willie Wong wrote: Something is wrong on my end then. Can I have your USE flags for firefox, the version you are running, and what Javascript options you are using (i.e. from the Firefox preferences or about:config)? W - equery uses mozilla-firefox [ Searching for packages matching

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 12/19/05, John Blinka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Willie Wong wrote: Something is wrong on my end then. Can I have your USE flags for firefox, the version you are running, and what Javascript options you are using (i.e. from the Firefox preferences or about:config)? W - equery

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:30:18PM -0800, Penguin Lover Eric Bliss squawked: Basically, if it isn't working right now, don't hold your breath for it to be fixed, either by the Firefox team, or the website developers. So... what you are saying is that, basically, it is not really anyone's

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:30:18PM -0800, Penguin Lover Eric Bliss squawked: Basically, if it isn't working right now, don't hold your breath for it to be fixed, either by the Firefox team, or the website developers. So... what you are saying is that, basically,

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-19 Thread John Jolet
Sure, it's somebody's fault! We can start with blaming the Microsoft's Jscript development team, and follow up with the ECMA standards body for trying to compromise between the two existing versions of J[ava] script. After that, we should go after Netscape and IE both for creating two

[gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed to click to see a larger version to the left. This works on Windows and it

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread John Blinka
Mark Knecht wrote: What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? I don't know what the difference between java javascript is either, but the web page you cited works for me using an up-to-date gentoo system and firefox. Clicking on the pictures on the right hand side does pop up

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread John Jolet
On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed to click to see a larger

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread RNuno
On 18-12-2005 17:46, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed to click to see a larger version

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef: What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? JavaScript From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search JavaScript is an object-based scripting programming language based on the concept of prototypes. The language is best known for its use in

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Dale
John Blinka wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? I don't know what the difference between java javascript is either, but the web page you cited works for me using an up-to-date gentoo system and firefox. Clicking on the pictures on the right hand

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/18/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Penguin Lover John Jolet squawked: javascript is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your Not quite. Java applets are mostly run client side, with possibly a

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate the info about javascript and suggestions. 1) I do have javascript enabled in Firefox. 2) I'm running this stuff Firefox-1.0.7-r2. I'll try updating to 1.0.7-r4 and see if it makes a difference. 3) I've tried blackdown 1.4.2-02

Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?

2005-12-18 Thread Maxime Robert-Schreyers
Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Penguin Lover John Jolet squawked: _javascript_ is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your Not quite. Java applets are