Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-09-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 8/27/07, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. Personally, I find the find plugin of emelFM2 http://emelfm2.net very nice and attractive.

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-30 Thread Jed R. Mallen
just a different tool. nothing breakthrough about dse's. breakthrough is web2.0. dse has it's place (or users). but for people who know how to organize and has been on the terminal, then the old tools suffice.but as data and storage gets multiplied everyday i guess it will find its way into

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-29 Thread b.n.
Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: As for the rest of the OP mail. Its a troll, has no question, no useful comments, no suggestions, neither a request for opinions, and he ends it like a pure troll, nonsense conclusions based on personal experience. But he must be laughing out loud that you both,

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-29 Thread b.n.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:50:49AM +0200, b.n. wrote: No, I don't know anything about his background: but most importantly, *I shouldn't have to know anything*. I see. Cultural monotheism, decided by you. It couldn't possibly work the other way 'round,

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-29 Thread felix
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:17:38AM -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: But he must be laughing out loud that you both, felix and b.n. have completely lost it, going totally off topic and starting a private discussion that should take place between you both, and only you, and most of all, outside of

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-29 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:54:27 +0200 (CEST) Cipher van Byte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. Using those search engines is like reinventing the

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 08. 28, kedd keltezéssel 01.02-kor Norberto Bensa ezt írta: Quoting Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. That's the best thing about opensource!!! Code one yourself :-P For comfortable people: there are alternatives, like windows,

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 August 2007, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? 1. Unused memory is wasted. 2. 64MiB ( 512Mb) is not that much in the modern era

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'. good tools, fast tools. Feel the love, people If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:20:46 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: 4. Have you used an application based of the Strigi indexer? That's what's going to be used for KDE 4.0, and I really haven't heard many complaints about it. There's also Recoll, which I found to use a lot of disk space for

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 August 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'. good tools, fast tools. Feel the love, people Yup but not so suitable for users

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Last time I did a file count in my home directory, it came up with 170,000 files (including sub-directories). It's a pain to keep that amount of data organised

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... It's like locate, except it indexes the contents of files (rather than just the names)

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
I have used glimpse for indexing my email archive. It works pretty well, but requires indexing runs and also the index files are quite large. Good, though. And for a bonus, it comes with agrep, if I recall correctly, a fantastic almost grep tool for somewhat fuzzy searches. Recently, on my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... It's like locate, except it indexes the

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 08:00:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2007, at 13:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing...

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Alan McKinnon skrev: What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... Desktop search engines is this centuries wheel invention. It's simply put a major breakthrough in how we work with our desktop. Now the wheel didn't start out all that nice

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Cipher van Byte
As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp directory where I put files that does not belong to any category on my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 August 2007, Cipher van Byte wrote: As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp directory where I put

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 07:54:27PM +0200, Cipher van Byte wrote: As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Desktop search engines is this centuries wheel invention. It's simply put a major breakthrough in how we work with our desktop. LOL Wow, I've got my dose

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Think of secretaries who aren't interested in computers but need to use them. Think of musicians who want to use computers for composing without really under them

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Shields
On 8/28/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Shields
On 8/28/07, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/28/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
There's another advantage to a desktop search engine: it can know about different file formats. Suppose you want to find everything which references New York City. If you want to use traditional find + grep + locate, you will have to throw file in the mix plus specialized grep to deal with pdfs,

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Billy McCann
deskbar-applet serves me fine. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:39:44PM +0200, b.n. wrote: His knowledge of English grammar and vocabulary has nothing to do with the actual *contents* of his mail, it has to do with just the errors of spelling and grammar. I'm sure he would have done the same in his mother language. ... Let's

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev: LOL Wow, I've got my dose of hype for the next month (or more). Sometimes it's not that hard to see the future if you have a clue, some things is just darn good. Fire, Wheel, Internet, The Web, Desktop Search Engines. People all laughed at them, but they

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:39:44PM +0200, b.n. wrote: His knowledge of English grammar and vocabulary has nothing to do with the actual *contents* of his mail, it has to do with just the errors of spelling and grammar. I'm sure he would have done the same

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:50:49AM +0200, b.n. wrote: No, I don't know anything about his background: but most importantly, *I shouldn't have to know anything*. I see. Cultural monotheism, decided by you. It couldn't possibly work the other way 'round, could it, that maybe he shouldn't have

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Daniel da Veiga
I see only one question (the one about memory hungry Beagle) at the OP post, and the answer is: It may be loading the whole index in memory, thus allowing faster searches. Unhappy, get more memory, or change software. Oh no, but he already concluded that all DSE for linux are bad. Strange, I used

[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Shaochun Wang
Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my system, this beast consumes

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 28. August 2007, Shaochun Wang wrote: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. That's the best thing about opensource!!! Code one yourself :-P This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.