Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-12 Thread Philip Webb
In the absence of any further responses -- thanx again for those so far -- I tried emerging Openrc with 'newnet' 'netifrc' (separately), but (after reboot) neither made any difference : still no auto I/net. Finally, I tried brute force -- 'rc-update add dhcpcd' -- , which worked. So there's some

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread Philip Webb
150211 thegeezer wrote: i vaguely recall that openrc started it's own version of dhcp client http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_management_using_DHCPCD/OpenRC_message https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.gentoo.dev/D_sFyfaQl2Y Yes, that says all you need is '+newnet' for Openrc it

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:43:22 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: Can anyone suggest what mb starting Dhcpcd automatically ? net.eth0 starts dhcp by default, unless is is configured to get its address some other way. -- Neil Bothwick Fill what's empty, empty what's full, scratch where it itches.

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread thegeezer
On 11/02/15 00:43, Philip Webb wrote: 150210 Mick wrote: Your desktop hasn't. When the link comes up again nothing kicks in to either request an IP address from the DHCP server or to self-configure one temporarily. Either enable IPv4LL or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:38:27 +, thegeezer wrote: the confusing bits are that gentoo can use hotplug detection from udev to start/stop interfaces for you magically also netplug/ifplug will detect carrier changes and start/stop magically ifplugd/netplug should not be configured to start

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread thegeezer
On 11/02/15 11:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:38:27 +, thegeezer wrote: the confusing bits are that gentoo can use hotplug detection from udev to start/stop interfaces for you magically also netplug/ifplug will detect carrier changes and start/stop magically

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-11 Thread thegeezer
On 11/02/15 10:38, thegeezer wrote: i vaguely recall that openrc started it's own version of dhcp client yes it did [3] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_management_using_DHCPCD/OpenRC_message [4] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.gentoo.dev/D_sFyfaQl2Y not requiring dhcpcd,

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote: Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]: enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.91.169 Your netbook has it enabled. It self-configures an IP address and then every so many seconds broadcasts on the wire to find if there is a DHCP server

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Feb 2015 00:43:22 Philip Webb wrote: 150210 Mick wrote: Your desktop hasn't. When the link comes up again nothing kicks in to either request an IP address from the DHCP server or to self-configure one temporarily. Either enable IPv4LL or install ifplug/netplug to achieve

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Philip Webb
150210 Mick wrote: On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote: Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]: enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.91.169 Your netbook has it enabled. It self-configures an IP address and then every so many seconds broadcasts on the wire to find if there is

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 22:36:00 Philip Webb wrote: 150210 Mick wrote: On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 03:36:19 Philip Webb wrote: Dec 31 19:00:29 localhost dhcpcd[1346]: enp1s0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.91.169 Your netbook has it enabled. It self-configures an IP address and then every

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-10 Thread Philip Webb
150210 Mick wrote: Your desktop hasn't. When the link comes up again nothing kicks in to either request an IP address from the DHCP server or to self-configure one temporarily. Either enable IPv4LL or install ifplug/netplug to achieve the same end result. On Tuesday 10 Feb 2015 22:36:00

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-09 Thread Philip Webb
150209 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:54:07 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I discovered that my ASUS EEE connects automatically to the Internet when the physical connection is plugged in, while my desktop machine (AMD + Gigabyte mobo) has to be told by 'dhcpcd'. I've checked

Re: [gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:54:07 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: By accident during my update of my ASUS EEE (now successfully completed), I discovered that it connects automatically to the Internet when the physical connection is plugged in, while my desktop machine (AMD + Gigabyte mobo) has to be told

[gentoo-user] netbook connects to Internet automatically, desktop doesn't

2015-02-08 Thread Philip Webb
By accident during my update of my ASUS EEE (now successfully completed), I discovered that it connects automatically to the Internet when the physical connection is plugged in, while my desktop machine (AMD + Gigabyte mobo) has to be told by 'dhcpcd'. The netbook's syslog reports (my comments