On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:20:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Forcing nano into @system goes against the whole idea of using
virtuals to specify required functionality, rather than requiring a
specific program.
That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time
it seems
I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute
server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember.
I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull in
any KDE libs save one, which has kde-meta in the world file. Not even
my mythtv box, which
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute
server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember.
I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull in
any KDE libs
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute
server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember.
I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull
in
should have been (desktop and
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
SNIP
And all of these machines are using the kde profile?
Of course not. Why would you put a server (or anything else) in the kde
profile unless you wanted to
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:37 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Then you missed the point of the thread.
Quite possibly.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:37 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Then you missed the point of the thread.
Quite possibly.
Actually, my comment was unfair and I apologize. If you didn't happen
to read every part of the thread
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and
depclean handling. It now shows this:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and
depclean handling. It now shows this:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
app-editors/nano
selected: 2.3.1
protected: none
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system
profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your
system.
!!! 'sys-apps/less' is part of your system
profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your
system.
Anyone else seeing this?
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:54 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Neil Bothwick
did opine thusly:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system
profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your
system.
!!! 'sys-apps/less' is part
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
sys-apps/less
selected: 443
protected: none
omitted: none
Changelog doesn't say much about this. I have nano, vim, more and less
installed and vim is in world. I really don't feel like adding the other
* Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [110607 04:42]:
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and
depclean handling. It now shows this:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and
depclean handling. It now shows this:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
I
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:36 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Alan McKinnon
did opine thusly:
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:54 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Neil
Bothwick
did opine thusly:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
#370295
Zac responded (comment #21) to my post in that bug with quite a well-reasoned
rationale. It makes interesting reading.
It was a good response.
One question left hanging for me goes like this:
I
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did
opine thusly:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote: SNIP
#370295
Zac responded (comment #21) to my post in that bug with quite a
well-reasoned rationale. It makes
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did
opine thusly:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote: SNIP
#370295
Zac responded (comment
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:39 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did
opine thusly:
I have no problem with saying someone needs to understand what less
does. less isn't important. It's just the example at hand today. The
'problem' that I'm trying to get closer to answering is how
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and
depclean handling. It now shows this:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
What I didn't like about this issue popping up yesterday is that it
altered the idea that average users never touch anything in @system.
Iin fact, TTBOMK I've never in 11 or 12 years of running Gentoo ever
done an emerge -C on a @system
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter Dnes
did opine thusly:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with
Alan McKinnon wrote:
OK, now we're tracking.
In the specific case of less, the answer is self-evident - it isn't needed. A
dev would just know that. More likely, he would assume he knows that.
In the general case, they suck their thumbs and guess. Some think more than
others before they guess,
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter Dnes
did opine thusly:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Latest
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:03 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Dale did
opine thusly:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Wednesday 08 June 2011, Walter
Dnes
did opine thusly:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:55:38AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote
On Tue, Jun 7,
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
What I didn't like about this issue popping up yesterday is that it
altered the idea that average users never touch anything in @system.
Iin fact, TTBOMK I've never
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:39 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did
opine thusly:
I have no problem with saying someone needs to understand what less
does. less isn't important. It's just the example at
Mark Knecht wrote:
That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time
it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system. Prior to
switching to that profile I think @system as about 150 packages. Today
it's 389:
2stable ~ # emerge -epv @system
These are the packages
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time
it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system.
SNIP
I complained about KDE stuff being in the system set long ago. It is
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time
it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system.
SNIP
I complained about KDE stuff being
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