Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, 30 May 2011 22:34:46 +0200 Nils Larsson wrote: Eh... Right, so ... The echo example might have been a bit blunt. I've found myself using echo examples as a general you need to add this setting here device, like you learn to do when you start using Gentoo, might have been a bit presumptuous of me. As for the incorrect locale string, copypaste from parent. Why not use echo ... ?? Since the does an append, the original file contents are still available for reference. Since the added line is at the end of the file, the new value will be used instead of the old value.
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 07:19:16AM -0400, David Relson wrote: Why not use echo ... ?? Since the does an append, the original file contents are still available for reference. Since the added line is at the end of the file, the new value will be used instead of the old value. In this case though, to set the locale properly, you should set LANG or LC_CTYPE and not set any of the other LC_* variables. If you are setting the other variables, those settings should be removed. William pgp3O9ofyoJUE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Tuesday 31 May 2011 16:44:25 William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 07:19:16AM -0400, David Relson wrote: Why not use echo ... ?? Since the does an append, the original file contents are still available for reference. Since the added line is at the end of the file, the new value will be used instead of the old value. In this case though, to set the locale properly, you should set LANG or LC_CTYPE and not set any of the other LC_* variables. If you are setting the other variables, those settings should be removed. Unless you want some of them to be different? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Sun, May 29 2011, Nils Larsson wrote: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. Thanks. It just needed source /etc/profile at the end. The variables are now correct but there are still problems. 1. locale complains oldlap ~ # locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=en_US_utf8 LC_CTYPE=en_US_utf8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US_utf8 LC_TIME=en_US_utf8 LC_COLLATE=en_US_utf8 LC_MONETARY=en_US_utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US_utf8 LC_PAPER=en_US_utf8 LC_NAME=en_US_utf8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US_utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US_utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US_utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US_utf8 LC_ALL= oldlap ~ # 2. ca-certificates complains during emerge 2A. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en_US_utf8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Creating checksum index... that was expected from above 2B. * This package installs one or more file names containing characters that * do not match your current locale settings. The current setting for * filesystem encoding is 'ANSI_X3.4-1968'. * * usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/AC_Ra\ufffd\ufffdz_Certic\ufffd\ufffdmara_S.A..crt plus other certificates. Perhaps fixing 2A would fix this as well?? 2C. The following has unreadable characters Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... W: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/AC_Ra��z_Certic��mara_S.A..crt not found, but listed in /etc/ca-certificates.conf. W: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/EBG_Elektronik_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sa��lay��c��s��.crt not found, but listed in /etc/ca-certificates.conf. W: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/NetLock_Arany_=Class_Gold=_F��tan��s��tv��ny.crt not found, but listed in /etc/ca-certificates.conf. W: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/T��B��TAK_UEKAE_K��k_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sa��lay��c��s��_-_S��r��m_3.crt not found, but listed in /etc/ca-certificates.conf. 0 added, 0 removed; done. thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. Not likely. The correct locale string is en_US.UTF-8, not the mess that is written above. Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well replace a valid locale setting with an that invalid one, without any checks at all on the existing contents of the file. So, it's best to use vim, nano or even emacs for such a job. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:43:19 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well replace a valid locale setting with an that invalid one, without any checks at all on the existing contents of the file. So, it's best to use vim, nano or even emacs for such a job. Setting noclobber in /etc/profile.d/*shopts.sh avoids that particular problem, as well was the one of accidentally nuking a file when you meant to add to it with . -- Neil Bothwick Microbiology: staph only. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
Am 30.05.2011 16:43, schrieb David W Noon: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. Not likely. The correct locale string is en_US.UTF-8, not the mess that is written above. Please stay polite. It also saves you the effort of writing those words. ;) Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well replace a valid locale setting with an that invalid one, without any checks at all on the existing contents of the file. So, it's best to use vim, nano or even emacs for such a job. Sure thing. However, it is much faster to type `echo foo bar` than writing Open your favorite file editor and enter 'foo' into 'bar'. Being concise is often the better approach when you want to show a solution to the problem at hand instead of educating the reader. Everyone who is able to install Gentoo should be able to understand the shell line and use whatever approach he wants to achieve the same result and if he is satisfied with the given line, he has a copy-and-paste solution at hand (my colleagues call this service to the reader). Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:00:02 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:43:19 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well replace a valid locale setting with an that invalid one, without any checks at all on the existing contents of the file. So, it's best to use vim, nano or even emacs for such a job. Setting noclobber in /etc/profile.d/*shopts.sh avoids that particular problem, as well was the one of accidentally nuking a file when you meant to add to it with . Setting noclobber is fine for not obliterating the current contents of the file, but it does not help where the current contents need to be updated. That is why I *always* use a text editor to modify configuration files. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
Florian Philipp wrote: Sure thing. However, it is much faster to type `echo foo bar` than writing Open your favorite file editor and enter 'foo' into 'bar'. Being concise is often the better approach when you want to show a solution to the problem at hand instead of educating the reader. Everyone who is able to install Gentoo should be able to understand the shell line and use whatever approach he wants to achieve the same result and if he is satisfied with the given line, he has a copy-and-paste solution at hand (my colleagues call this service to the reader). Regards, Florian Philipp Yep, one could write to open a file with nano or vi. If the user knows what he/she is doing, opening it with kwrite would work just as good, unless the GUI is broken. I often get help from folks who say to edit a file one way but I may do something with a different tool than they use. Prime example being vi compared to nano. Does the same thing but a different tool. It's a matter of preferences is all. I use nano but if someone writes to use vi, I know how to change the command to work with nano. The biggest thing is, if a problem can't be solved on this list, it's a BIG problem or a nifty new feature. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:46:47 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Setting noclobber in /etc/profile.d/*shopts.sh avoids that particular problem, as well was the one of accidentally nuking a file when you meant to add to it with . Setting noclobber is fine for not obliterating the current contents of the file, but it does not help where the current contents need to be updated. That is why I *always* use a text editor to modify configuration files. True, sed is a good choice for that. -- Neil Bothwick EASY TO INSTALL = Difficult to install, but instruction manual has pictures. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
Eh... Right, so ... The echo example might have been a bit blunt. I've found myself using echo examples as a general you need to add this setting here device, like you learn to do when you start using Gentoo, might have been a bit presumptuous of me. As for the incorrect locale string, copypaste from parent.
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On Mon, May 30 2011, David W. Noon wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. The correct locale string is en_US.UTF-8. Thank you this fixed the problem. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
On 30 May 2011 20:58, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, May 30 2011, David W. Noon wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. The correct locale string is en_US.UTF-8. Thank you this fixed the problem. allan Indeed, my own notes are exactly the same as here. As far as the other debates on how to most concisely express the idea, my notes to myself read as the result rather than say how to edit config files. Spill the contents to the screen and you need to see that (or similar for different locale than US). daid@flux ~ % cat /etc/env.d/02locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 Is there any kind of project using even a simple GUI like zenity for doing config file editing in Gentoo? I could use some good way to organize that stuff some days. Cheers, daid
[gentoo-user] setting locale
On one of my machines all the LC_ variables are POSIX. I want them to be en_US.utf8 as on my other machines. I have the done the following (from the handbook) 1. cat /etc/local.gen (ignoring comments) en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 2. locale-gen 3. source /etc/profile 4. locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=POSIX LC_NUMERIC=POSIX LC_TIME=POSIX and others as well LC_All= What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale
måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work.
