Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-25 Thread bn
Mark Knecht ha scritto: No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is 2 years old. Also, I have about a dozen packages masked so I've unmasked those and will need to get the whole machine up to date. There is something I didn't understand at all in this thread. Why did you need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:47 AM, bnbrullonu...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht ha scritto: No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is 2 years old. Also, I have about a dozen packages masked so I've unmasked those and will need to get the whole machine up to date. There is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: You can tell before you perform the update that the old version is no longer in portage, How? I run eix-sync and at that point it's no longer in /usr/portage/distfiles. AFAIK, eix-sync doesn't touch $DISTDIR. If it does, that's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 02:28:50 Neil Bothwick wrote: Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who cannot teach, HACK! No, no - those who can't teach teach teachers. Or so my father used to say, from what he said had been bitter experience. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it on my my machine. The only variations on that theme seem to be in /var/db/pkg. No tar files, just other programming junk. http://sources.gentoo.org/ is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: SNIP A different short-term solution might be to find another old junker machine that is supported, building it out of junker parts. This would be good if I had any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) It absolutely isn't that the hardware is unsupported, it's that a *feature* of the hardware (TV Out S-Video) became unsupported. And the S-Video output is part of the hardware, so you do have unsupported hardware. 2) Following your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 22:17:12 Mark Knecht wrote: I really think this is what a personal overlay is for, but as I've said for years, it's hard to build an overlay when you don't know what needs to be in it until it's been removed. And yes, something has removed these files, at least from

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source drivers? New features are always being ported in. The two options are; - Radeon driver (module is named ati) - Radeonhd driver (module is named radeon) Check out the current features here http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Adam Carteradam.car...@optus.com.au wrote: I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source drivers? New features are always being ported in. The two options are; - Radeon driver (module is named ati) - Radeonhd driver (module is named

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
I am scanning the /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking for info on what chip this is. I'm not finding anything that says what Radeon family it's part of. lspci tells me what I posted here already - that it's part of the IGP 9100 family.

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
So you want the radeon/ati driver, the package name is xf86-video-ati, so I guess that means you want ati in VIDEO_DEVICES. It's radeon in recent X.Org, not ati. Not sure when that changed. Probably with xorg-server 1.5. Damn - I had checked the /usr/portage/x11-drivers directory and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/25/2009 03:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Adam Carteradam.car...@optus.com.au  wrote: I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source drivers? New features are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Adam Carteradam.car...@optus.com.au wrote: I am scanning the /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking for info on what chip this is. I'm not finding anything that says what Radeon family it's part of. lspci tells me what I posted here already - that it's part of the IGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/25/2009 04:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I thought emerge xf86-video-ati, then swapping Driver flgrx to Driver radeon in xorg.conf was all that is required?? No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all,    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5?    I have a big emerge running on one of my MythTV frontends

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all,    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select the fglrx driver with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all,    Main question is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: [...] Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing what I was just using: [...] Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: [...] Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. As a last attempt at damage control, try

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Keith Dart
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing what I was just using: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;-) Portage does drop many old packages over time, to keep the package database to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to be about choice. Seems it's not about my choice anymore.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. Yet it does. I think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, files that I'm currently using, files that I require. It doesn't. It may remove files

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot immediately go back. Gentoo was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: [...] Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. As a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. Yet it does. I think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, files that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. Yet it does. I think it's a sinthat portage decides to