Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Sat, 18 October 2014, at 8:03 am, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. I think that's because the ebuild's version number didn't change. Hence the package wasn't included when you told portage to run an update - when you told portage explicitly to install the latest xfce4-weather-plugin it found the patches. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work
Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin (xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does not work (forecast data unavailable). Its website (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin) says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no API has changed. May be it is the cause. If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the ebuild.
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work
Hello, Same issue here... Cheers, *--* *Jacques* 2014-10-17 13:37 GMT+02:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com: Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin (xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does not work (forecast data unavailable). Its website ( http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin) says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no API has changed. May be it is the cause. If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the ebuild.
[gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost
This is the continuation from the thread XFCE weather plugin does not work 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk): On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote: And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches? AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack() and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied. The usual place is src_prepare(). I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball. I attach a tarball of theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/. I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my alternative keyboard layouts. I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my keyboard. Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help. Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting the system. So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage. I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago, I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway). So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously. Any thoughts?
[gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost
2014-10-18 11:34 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com: This is the continuation from the thread XFCE weather plugin does not work 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk): On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote: And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches? AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack() and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied. The usual place is src_prepare(). I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball. I attach a tarball of theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/. I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my alternative keyboard layouts. I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my keyboard. Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help. Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting the system. So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage. I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago, I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway). So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously. Any thoughts? I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice: only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter э is set in another easy to remember position. But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with patches and libidn!
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Fri, 17 October 2014, at 12:37 pm, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin (xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does not work (forecast data unavailable). Its website (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin) says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no API has changed. May be it is the cause. If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the ebuild. There's already a bug for this on Gentoo's tracker: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524850 I think that last comment by Greg Kubaryk about the ebuild being epatch_user enabled means you can just download those two patches (google for 1ff71… and 7df30…) and put them in the right /etc/portage subdirectory to have them applied automatically. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost
On Saturday 18 Oct 2014 09:34:53 gevisz wrote: This is the continuation from the thread XFCE weather plugin does not work 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk): On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote: And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches? AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack() and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied. The usual place is src_prepare(). I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball. I attach a tarball of theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/. I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my alternative keyboard layouts. I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my keyboard. Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help. Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting the system. So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage. I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago, I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway). So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously. Any thoughts? I think you are referring to the XkbLayout. In /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10- evdev.conf you can add a section like so with the keyboard languages of your choice: Section InputClass Identifier evdev keyboard catchall MatchIsKeyboard on MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* Driver evdev Option XkbLayout gb,el Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 18 Oct 2014 09:34:53 gevisz wrote: This is the continuation from the thread XFCE weather plugin does not work 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk): On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote: And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches? AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack() and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied. The usual place is src_prepare(). I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball. I attach a tarball of theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/. I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my alternative keyboard layouts. I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my keyboard. Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help. Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting the system. So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage. I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago, I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway). So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously. Any thoughts? I think you are referring to the XkbLayout. In /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10- evdev.conf you can add a section like so with the keyboard languages of your choice: Section InputClass Identifier evdev keyboard catchall MatchIsKeyboard on MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* Driver evdev Option XkbLayout gb,el Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection Yes, something like that. But I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. So, I did that configuration in another file. But the problem is that I have not changed anything related to the keyboard layout just before my alternative keyboard layouts disappeared.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:03:10 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 544210d1.22a0700a.56bc.5...@mx.google.com): On 18/10/14 08:03, Gevisz wrote: [snip] I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. You're welcome. The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems. Thank you anyway. :) But may I ask you if applying those patches could result in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout? I guess not, but somehow I've got that result after updating libidn packet and applying these patches afterwards. :( The details are in the An alternative keyboard layout is lost thread. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. That's because the plugin's version/release number has not been modified, so emerge will not process it. Ok, I've got it. :) The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. That can be a bit variable. I still put the epatch_user command in explicitly, just to be certain. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest. If you don't modify the ebuild then there is no need. Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild? According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/ directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data condition. (But, as it did not helped me to return my alternative keyboard layout, I re-emerged the plugin back, with the patches.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk): On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote: And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches? AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack() and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied. The usual place is src_prepare(). I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball. I attach a tarball of theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/. I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlRBmhwACgkQRQ2Fs59Psv8YHgCghXa931NC2rJSa8394L2FvZGB UIAAoIiiIpd7PktyaQE9Av/RxRYjnLE0 =68v7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:03:10 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 544210d1.22a0700a.56bc.5...@mx.google.com): On 18/10/14 08:03, Gevisz wrote: [snip] I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you. You're welcome. The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems. Nevertheless, just # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin did not worked. That's because the plugin's version/release number has not been modified, so emerge will not process it. The ebuild should have the following lines added: src_prepare() { epatch_user } I have not done this relying on the promise by Greg Kubaryk that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. That can be a bit variable. I still put the epatch_user command in explicitly, just to be certain. Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild. I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level. So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose. If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest. If you don't modify the ebuild then there is no need. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory I'll go ahead and do as instructed in the forum post you supplied. I'll let you know how I went once I've done it. Thanks once again for your help.
[gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:10:15 +0300 gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice: only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter э is set in another easy to remember position. Oh, no. I was wrong! Because, in the Osetinian Winkeys keyboard layout, I cannot find letter ё. And this issue significantly slows down my work! But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with patches and libidn!
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/08/2013 10:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' and 'consolekit' to the runlevels: # rc-update add consolekit default # rc-update add dbus default # /etc/init.d/consolekit start That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system instances. Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console: ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of: exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch And then you can run $ startx But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a checklist. I'll certainly do that. Thanks very much.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' and 'consolekit' to the runlevels: # rc-update add consolekit default # rc-update add dbus default # /etc/init.d/consolekit start That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system instances. Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console: ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of: exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch And then you can run $ startx But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a checklist.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives [SOLVED]
On 10/08/2013 10:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' and 'consolekit' to the runlevels: # rc-update add consolekit default # rc-update add dbus default # /etc/init.d/consolekit start That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system instances. Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console: ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of: exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch And then you can run $ startx But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a checklist. I've followed the instructions described in the post you supplied by way of the link above, and now I have my removable drives auto-mounting. Thanks very much.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with regard to that: box0=; dmesg|tail -30 [ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.255067] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci [ 1674.306278] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: port 3 reset complete, port enabled [ 1674.306286] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.370434] usb 1-3: default language 0x0409 [ 1674.371812] usb 1-3: udev 3, busnum 1, minor = 2 [ 1674.371816] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603 [ 1674.371819] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 1674.371821] usb 1-3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0 [ 1674.371824] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Kingston [ 1674.371826] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 000AEB91BC8CA9203550013A [ 1674.371945] usb 1-3: usb_probe_device [ 1674.371949] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1674.372446] usb 1-3: adding 1-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) [ 1674.372501] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface [ 1674.372508] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id [ 1674.372511] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 1674.372679] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 [ 1675.374695] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1675.377095] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7852032 512-byte logical blocks: (4.02 GB/3.74 GiB) [ 1675.377860] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 1675.377866] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 1675.378706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.378711] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.382693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.382698] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.608825] sdb: [ 1675.996321] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.996326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.996330] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk As far as I can tell, it's not auto-mounted, is it? 'ls /media' and 'ls /mnt' return nothing. I could probably use the 'mount' command, to access the files on the memory stick, I'd like my system to auto-mount it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost
On Oct 18, 2014, at 21:04, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:10:15 +0300 gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice: only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter э is set in another easy to remember position. Oh, no. I was wrong! Because, in the Osetinian Winkeys keyboard layout, I cannot find letter ё. And this issue significantly slows down my work! But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with patches and libidn! Well you should configure keyboard layouts through evdev. If you update xorg-server you will need to remerge x11-drivers. So configure evdev as suggested by previous emails and then remerge x11-drivers. -- -M
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:58:40 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 5442aa74.8212980a.2836.7...@mx.google.com): On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] You're welcome. The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems. Thank you anyway. :) But may I ask you if applying those patches could result in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout? There is nothing in those patches that can affect keyboard configuration. The patches only handle data received over a HTTP connection to the Norwegian Meteorological Institute. No keyboard stuff at all. If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest. If you don't modify the ebuild then there is no need. Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild? The ebuild is a small text file that scripts the build process. The patches are external files to this process. As a result, the patches do not affect the MD5 checksum for the ebuild file in the package's manifest. According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/ directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data condition. If it remained working then it was probably because you remained logged in to your Xfce desktop, which has the plugin cached inside the Xfce panel's address space. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:07:22 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:58:40 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in 5442aa74.8212980a.2836.7...@mx.google.com): On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] You're welcome. The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems. Thank you anyway. :) But may I ask you if applying those patches could result in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout? There is nothing in those patches that can affect keyboard configuration. The patches only handle data received over a HTTP connection to the Norwegian Meteorological Institute. No keyboard stuff at all. If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest. If you don't modify the ebuild then there is no need. Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild? The ebuild is a small text file that scripts the build process. The patches are external files to this process. As a result, the patches do not affect the MD5 checksum for the ebuild file in the package's manifest. According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/ directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data condition. If it remained working then it was probably because you remained logged in to your Xfce desktop, which has the plugin cached inside the Xfce panel's address space. May be.
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, the applet continued to switch the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the original ones. Magically, the rWin key also started to switch the keyboard layout. So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. The third one is not so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. :^) Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more informative. :^) However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is still valid. But not so important any more. :^)
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, the applet continued to switch the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the original ones. Magically, the rWin key also started to switch the keyboard layout. So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. The third one is not so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. :^) Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more informative. :^) If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the code base. MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is down). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
2013/9/6 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, the applet continued to switch the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the original ones. Magically, the rWin key also started to switch the keyboard layout. So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. The third one is not so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. :^) Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more informative. :^) If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the code base. MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is down). -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México But I have not found MATE in portage... Anyway, it is not so important now, as I have already almost satisfied with my present Xfce setup. Thank you for the reply and have a nice weekend.
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote: 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, the applet continued to switch the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the original ones. Magically, the rWin key also started to switch the keyboard layout. So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. The third one is not so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. :^) Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more informative. :^) However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is still valid. But not so important any more. :^) Window decorations are usually done by the window manager, I assume Gnome2 is no different? Have you tried running a different window manager that supports what you want? What is the Gnome2 wm anyway? Metacity? (it's been so long since I looked, I've forgotten) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
2013/9/6 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote: 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly, the applet continued to switch the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the original ones. Magically, the rWin key also started to switch the keyboard layout. So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid. The third one is not so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it. :^) Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more informative. :^) However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is still valid. But not so important any more. :^) Window decorations are usually done by the window manager, I assume Gnome2 is no different? Have you tried running a different window manager that supports what you want
Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames
On 08/09/2013 12:02, gevisz wrote: 2013/9/6 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote: 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote: Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner. Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole screen, and it is extremely inconvenient. I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^( Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of course). However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet with the world map showing the daytime at different locations). Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2. I think the true answer is You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will last only a short time. Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far 1) I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev configs), 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example, I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome, 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread. All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back compared to Gnome 2 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with Gnome 3 :^), as have not tried it so far). P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce, you are welcome. :^) I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows: Option XkbOptions grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp It works for Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^( Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the Xfce panel, but could not find any. A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in the xfce4-meta package (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout indicator. At first, it did not work, that is, I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after changing some of the plugin's settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly
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