Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 18 October 2014, at 8:03 am, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
 and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 
 After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.
 
 Nevertheless, just
 # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
 instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 did not worked.

I think that's because the ebuild's version number didn't change. 

Hence the package wasn't included when you told portage to run an update - when 
you told portage explicitly to install the latest xfce4-weather-plugin it found 
the patches.

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-17 Thread Gevisz
Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin
(xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does
not work (forecast data unavailable).

Its website 
(http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin)
says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no API 
has changed.

May be it is the cause.

If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the ebuild.



Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Hello,

Same issue here...

Cheers,

*--*
*Jacques*

2014-10-17 13:37 GMT+02:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:

 Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin
 (xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does
 not work (forecast data unavailable).

 Its website (
 http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin)
 says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no
 API has changed.

 May be it is the cause.

 If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the
 ebuild.




[gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread gevisz
This is the continuation from the thread
XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100
 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

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 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk)
 wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
 (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk):

  On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote:
 
  And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the
  intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some
  special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches?
 
  AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack()
  and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied.

 The usual place is src_prepare().

 I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line
 addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball.  I attach a tarball of
 theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/.

 I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
 and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin

 After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.

 Nevertheless, just
 # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
 instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 did not worked.

 The ebuild should have the following lines added:

 src_prepare() {
 epatch_user
 }

 I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
 that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled.

 Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.

 I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
 So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.

Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches
provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my
alternative keyboard layouts.

I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin
version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my
keyboard.

Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help.

Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package
was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that
update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as
I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting
the system.

So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage.

I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago,
I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere
in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway).

So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying
to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some
xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings
that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously.


Any thoughts?



[gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread gevisz
2014-10-18 11:34 GMT+03:00 gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
 This is the continuation from the thread
 XFCE weather plugin does not work

 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100
 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

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 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk)
 wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
 (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk):

  On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote:
 
  And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the
  intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some
  special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches?
 
  AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack()
  and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied.

 The usual place is src_prepare().

 I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line
 addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball.  I attach a tarball of
 theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/.

 I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
 and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin

 After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.

 Nevertheless, just
 # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
 instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 did not worked.

 The ebuild should have the following lines added:

 src_prepare() {
 epatch_user
 }

 I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
 that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled.

 Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.

 I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
 So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.

 Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches
 provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my
 alternative keyboard layouts.

 I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin
 version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my
 keyboard.

 Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help.

 Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
 was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package
 was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that
 update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as
 I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting
 the system.

 So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage.

 I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago,
 I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere
 in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway).

 So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying
 to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some
 xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings
 that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously.


 Any thoughts?

I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin
reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys
alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding
keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys
alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice:
only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter
э is set in another easy to remember position.

But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
with patches and libidn!



Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-17 Thread Stroller

On Fri, 17 October 2014, at 12:37 pm, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Already for a a few days my XFCE weather plugin
 (xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3-r1) does
 not work (forecast data unavailable).
 
 Its website 
 (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin)
 says that You need to apply two patches on version 0.8.3 because Met.no API 
 has changed.
 
 May be it is the cause.
 
 If so, may I ask supporters to make the corresponding changes to the ebuild.
 

There's already a bug for this on Gentoo's tracker: 
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524850

I think that last comment by Greg Kubaryk about the ebuild being epatch_user 
enabled means you can just download those two patches (google for 1ff71… and 
7df30…) and put them in the right /etc/portage subdirectory to have them 
applied automatically.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread Mick
On Saturday 18 Oct 2014 09:34:53 gevisz wrote:
 This is the continuation from the thread
 XFCE weather plugin does not work
 
 2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
  On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100
  
  David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk)
  wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
  
  (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk):
   On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote:
   And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the
   intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some
   special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches?
   
   AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack()
   and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied.
  
  The usual place is src_prepare().
  
  I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line
  addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball.  I attach a tarball of
  theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/.
  
  I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
  http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
  and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
  
  After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.
  
  Nevertheless, just
  # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask
  world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
  did not worked.
  
  The ebuild should have the following lines added:
  
  src_prepare() {
  
  epatch_user
  
  }
  
  I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
  that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled.
  
  Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.
  
  I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
  So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.
 
 Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches
 provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my
 alternative keyboard layouts.
 
 I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin
 version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my
 keyboard.
 
 Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help.
 
 Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
 was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package
 was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that
 update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as
 I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting
 the system.
 
 So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage.
 
 I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago,
 I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere
 in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway).
 
 So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying
 to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some
 xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings
 that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously.
 
 
 Any thoughts?

I think you are referring to the XkbLayout.  In /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-
evdev.conf you can add a section like so with the keyboard languages of your 
choice:


Section InputClass
Identifier evdev keyboard catchall
MatchIsKeyboard on
MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
Driver evdev
Option XkbLayout gb,el
Option XkbOptions 
grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
EndSection


-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread Gevisz
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 +0100
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday 18 Oct 2014 09:34:53 gevisz wrote:
  This is the continuation from the thread
  XFCE weather plugin does not work
  
  2014-10-18 10:03 GMT+03:00 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com:
   On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100
   
   David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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   On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk)
   wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
   
   (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk):
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote:
And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the
intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some
special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches?

AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack()
and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied.
   
   The usual place is src_prepare().
   
   I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line
   addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball.  I attach a tarball of
   theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/.
   
   I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
   http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
   and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
   
   After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.
   
   Nevertheless, just
   # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask
   world instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
   did not worked.
   
   The ebuild should have the following lines added:
   
   src_prepare() {
   
   epatch_user
   
   }
   
   I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
   that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled.
   
   Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.
   
   I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
   So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.
  
  Just after emerging xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches
  provided by David W Noon, I have noticed that I lost all my
  alternative keyboard layouts.
  
  I tried to set them anew via xfce4 Keyboard Layouts Plugin
  version 0.5.6 but there is no keyboard layout that suits my
  keyboard.
  
  Unfortunately, unmerging xfce4-weather-plugin did not help.
  
  Another thing I did just before re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
  was a routine system update. This time only net-dns/libidn package
  was updated from version 1.28 to version 1.29, and before that
  update my alternative keyboard layouts were still present, as
  I remember using them just after the update but before rebooting
  the system.
  
  So, it also may be that updating libidn package caused the damage.
  
  I remember that, while installing Gentoo about 15 months ago,
  I set my keyboard layout not via an xfce4 plugin but somewhere
  in the X11 settings. (At that time I had gnome2 instead of xfce4 anyway).
  
  So, may be now, re-emerging xfce4-weather-plugin, or trying
  to set the alternative keyboard layout anew, I have created some
  xfce4 configuration file that shadows X11 (or old gnome2) settings
  that xfce4 used for keyboard layout previously.
  
  
  Any thoughts?
 
 I think you are referring to the XkbLayout.  In /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-
 evdev.conf you can add a section like so with the keyboard languages of your 
 choice:
 
 
 Section InputClass
 Identifier evdev keyboard catchall
 MatchIsKeyboard on
 MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
 Driver evdev
 Option XkbLayout gb,el
 Option XkbOptions 
 grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 EndSection

Yes, something like that. But I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory.
So, I did that configuration in another file.

But the problem is that I have not changed anything related to the keyboard
layout just before my alternative keyboard layouts disappeared.
 




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread Gevisz
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100
David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:03:10 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote
 about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in
 544210d1.22a0700a.56bc.5...@mx.google.com):
 
 On 18/10/14 08:03, Gevisz wrote:
 [snip]
  I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
  http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
  and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
  
  After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.
 
 You're welcome.  The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply
 massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems.

Thank you anyway. :)

But may I ask you if applying those patches could result
in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout?

I guess not, but somehow I've got that result after updating libidn packet
and applying these patches afterwards. :(

The details are in the An alternative keyboard layout is lost thread. 

  Nevertheless, just
  # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
  instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
  did not worked.
 
 That's because the plugin's version/release number has not been
 modified, so emerge will not process it.

Ok, I've got it. :)

  The ebuild should have the following lines added:
  
  src_prepare() {
  epatch_user
  }
  
  I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
  that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. 
 
 That can be a bit variable.  I still put the epatch_user command in
 explicitly, just to be certain.
 
  Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.
  
  I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
  So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.
 
 If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest.  If you
 don't modify the ebuild then there is no need.

Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory
and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild?

According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the
xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/
directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it
and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data
condition.

(But, as it did not helped me to return my alternative keyboard layout,
 I re-emerged the plugin back, with the patches.)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread Gevisz
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:37:16 +0100
David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

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 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:33:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk)
 wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work
 (in 20141017223345.16c96...@digimed.co.uk):
 
  On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:13:52 + (UTC), James wrote:
  
  And last, can any patch that ends in .patch be applied to the 
  intended ebuild or does the gentoo ebuild auther have to put some
  special code into an (EAPI-5) ebuild to facilitate user patches?
  
  AFAIR the ebuild simply has to call epatch_user() in src_unpack()
  and any matching patches in /etc/portage/patches are applied.
 
 The usual place is src_prepare().
 
 I have prepared some patches from the Xfce repository with line
 addressing to match the Gentoo sources tarball.  I attach a tarball of
 theses patches that can be untarred in /etc/portage/patches/.

I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin

After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.

Nevertheless, just
# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
did not worked.

 The ebuild should have the following lines added:
 
 src_prepare() {
 epatch_user
 }

I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. 

 Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.

I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.

 Regards,
 
 Dave  [RLU #314465]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:03:10 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote
about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in
544210d1.22a0700a.56bc.5...@mx.google.com):

On 18/10/14 08:03, Gevisz wrote:
[snip]
 I have unpacked your patches to /etc/portage/patches as described here:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
 and then run # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 
 After restarting xfce4, the weather-plugin started to work. Thank you.

You're welcome.  The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply
massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems.

 Nevertheless, just
 # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask world
 instead of # emerge xfce4-weather-plugin
 did not worked.

That's because the plugin's version/release number has not been
modified, so emerge will not process it.

 The ebuild should have the following lines added:
 
 src_prepare() {
 epatch_user
 }
 
 I have not done this relying on the promise by  Greg Kubaryk
 that the ebuild is epatch_user enabled. 

That can be a bit variable.  I still put the epatch_user command in
explicitly, just to be certain.

 Don't forget to redo the manifest for the ebuild.
 
 I never dealt with ebuilds on a maintaner level.
 So, may I ask if it is really necessary and for which purpose.

If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest.  If you
don't modify the ebuild then there is no need.
-- 
Regards,

Dave  [RLU #314465]
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
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Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:

On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have
xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still
remains, how do I do it?

Thanks.


hi,

you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some 
dependencies); it
does what you asked for

victor


Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something
I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce
packages I have installed on my system:
box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
  * Searching for *xfce* ...
[IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0


xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and 
xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed


i don't see thunar-volman in your list there

futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you 
must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your

Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it):

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html

and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command 
shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, 
instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really 
want to mount from commandline




Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do
 have
 xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
 xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
 perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still
 remains, how do I do it?

 Thanks.

 hi,

 you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it
 may pull some dependencies); it
 does what you asked for

 victor

 Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something
 I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce
 packages I have installed on my system:
 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
   * Searching for *xfce* ...
 [IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0

 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and
 xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed

 i don't see thunar-volman in your list there

 futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so
 you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your
 Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it):

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html

 and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command
 shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices,
 instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you
 really want to mount from commandline

Thanks.

thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well:
equery list '*thunar*'
 * Searching for *thunar* ...
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0


'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns:
** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to
socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

I'll go ahead and do as instructed in the forum post you supplied.

I'll let you know how I went once I've done it.

Thanks once again for your help.




[gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread Gevisz
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:10:15 +0300
gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin
 reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys
 alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding
 keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys
 alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice:
 only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter
 э is set in another easy to remember position.

Oh, no. I was wrong! Because, in the Osetinian Winkeys
keyboard layout, I cannot find letter ё.

And this issue significantly slows down my work! 
 
 But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
 with patches and libidn!




Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 10/08/2013 10:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do
 have
 xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
 xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
 perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question
 still
 remains, how do I do it?

 Thanks.

 hi,

 you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it
 may pull some dependencies); it
 does what you asked for

 victor

 Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is
 something
 I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the
 xfce
 packages I have installed on my system:
 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
* Searching for *xfce* ...
 [IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0

 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and
 xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed

 i don't see thunar-volman in your list there

 futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so
 you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in
 your
 Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it):

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html

 and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command
 shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices,
 instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you
 really want to mount from commandline

 Thanks.

 thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well:
 equery list '*thunar*'
   * Searching for *thunar* ...
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0


 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns:
 ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to
 socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

 The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus'
 and 'consolekit' to the runlevels:

 # rc-update add consolekit default
 # rc-update add dbus default
 # /etc/init.d/consolekit start

 That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system
 instances.

 Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For
 example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console:

 ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of:

 exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch

 And then you can run

 $ startx

 But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a
 checklist.

I'll certainly do that.

Thanks very much.




Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:

On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:

On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do
have
xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still
remains, how do I do it?

Thanks.


hi,

you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it
may pull some dependencies); it
does what you asked for

victor


Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something
I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce
packages I have installed on my system:
box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
   * Searching for *xfce* ...
[IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0


xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and
xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed

i don't see thunar-volman in your list there

futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so
you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your
Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it):

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html

and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command
shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices,
instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you
really want to mount from commandline


Thanks.

thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well:
equery list '*thunar*'
  * Searching for *thunar* ...
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0


'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns:
** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to
socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory


The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' 
and 'consolekit' to the runlevels:


# rc-update add consolekit default
# rc-update add dbus default
# /etc/init.d/consolekit start

That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system 
instances.


Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, 
running Xfce using `startx` from text console:


~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of:

exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch

And then you can run

$ startx

But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a 
checklist.




Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives [SOLVED]

2013-10-10 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 10/08/2013 10:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do
 have
 xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
 xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
 perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question
 still
 remains, how do I do it?

 Thanks.

 hi,

 you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it
 may pull some dependencies); it
 does what you asked for

 victor

 Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is
 something
 I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the
 xfce
 packages I have installed on my system:
 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
* Searching for *xfce* ...
 [IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
 [IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0

 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and
 xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed

 i don't see thunar-volman in your list there

 futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so
 you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in
 your
 Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it):

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html

 and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command
 shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices,
 instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you
 really want to mount from commandline

 Thanks.

 thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well:
 equery list '*thunar*'
   * Searching for *thunar* ...
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0
 [IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0


 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns:
 ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to
 socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

 The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus'
 and 'consolekit' to the runlevels:

 # rc-update add consolekit default
 # rc-update add dbus default
 # /etc/init.d/consolekit start

 That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system
 instances.

 Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For
 example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console:

 ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of:

 exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch

 And then you can run

 $ startx

 But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a
 checklist.
I've followed the instructions described in the post you supplied by way
of the link above, and now I have my removable drives auto-mounting.

Thanks very much.




Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote:
 On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have
 xfce4-mount-plugin installed.

 box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount
 xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4

 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that
 perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still
 remains, how do I do it?

 Thanks.

 hi,

 you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull 
 some dependencies); it
 does what you asked for

 victor

Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something
I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce
packages I have installed on my system:
box0=; equery list '*xfce*'
 * Searching for *xfce* ...
[IP-] [  ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0
[IP-] [  ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0

I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with
regard to that:
box0=; dmesg|tail -30
[ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 
ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT
[ 1674.255067] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci
[ 1674.306278] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: port 3 reset complete, port enabled
[ 1674.306286] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 
ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT
[ 1674.370434] usb 1-3: default language 0x0409
[ 1674.371812] usb 1-3: udev 3, busnum 1, minor = 2
[ 1674.371816] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603
[ 1674.371819] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[ 1674.371821] usb 1-3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0
[ 1674.371824] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Kingston
[ 1674.371826] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 000AEB91BC8CA9203550013A
[ 1674.371945] usb 1-3: usb_probe_device
[ 1674.371949] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 1674.372446] usb 1-3: adding 1-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
[ 1674.372501] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface
[ 1674.372508] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
[ 1674.372511] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1674.372679] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
[ 1675.374695] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0
1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[ 1675.377095] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7852032 512-byte logical blocks: (4.02
GB/3.74 GiB)
[ 1675.377860] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 1675.377866] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
[ 1675.378706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[ 1675.378711] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1675.382693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[ 1675.382698] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1675.608825]  sdb:
[ 1675.996321] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[ 1675.996326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1675.996330] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk

As far as I can tell, it's not auto-mounted, is it? 'ls /media' and 'ls
/mnt' return nothing.

I could probably use the 'mount' command, to access the files on the
memory stick, I'd like my system to auto-mount it.

Any pointers would be appreciated.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: An alternative keyboard layout is lost

2014-10-18 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 21:04, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:10:15 +0300
 gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have found out that my problem with xfce4 keyboard plugin
 reduces to the fact that now I cannot choose Russian Winkeys
 alternative keyboard: there is no such option in the corresponding
 keyboard layout settings. So, I have to choose Osetinian Winkeys
 alternative keyboard as it is appears to be the next best choice:
 only one extra unnecessary letter ӕ in place of э and the letter
 э is set in another easy to remember position.
 
 Oh, no. I was wrong! Because, in the Osetinian Winkeys
 keyboard layout, I cannot find letter ё.
 
 And this issue significantly slows down my work! 
 
 But everything worked perfect before emerging xfce4-weather-plugin
 with patches and libidn!

Well you should configure keyboard layouts through evdev. If you update 
xorg-server you will need to remerge x11-drivers.

So configure evdev as suggested by previous emails and then remerge x11-drivers.

-- 
-M


Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:58:40 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote
about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in
5442aa74.8212980a.2836.7...@mx.google.com):

 On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100
 David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
[snip]
 You're welcome.  The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply
 massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems.
 
 Thank you anyway. :)
 
 But may I ask you if applying those patches could result
 in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout?

There is nothing in those patches that can affect keyboard
configuration.  The patches only handle data received over a HTTP
connection to the Norwegian Meteorological Institute.  No keyboard stuff
at all.

 If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest.  If you
 don't modify the ebuild then there is no need.
 
 Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory
 and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild?

The ebuild is a small text file that scripts the build process.  The
patches are external files to this process.  As a result, the patches do
not affect the MD5 checksum for the ebuild file in the package's manifest.

 According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the
 xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/
 directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it
 and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data
 condition.

If it remained working then it was probably because you remained logged
in to your Xfce desktop, which has the plugin cached inside the Xfce
panel's address space.
-- 
Regards,

Dave  [RLU #314465]
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*




Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE weather plugin does not work

2014-10-18 Thread Gevisz
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:07:22 +0100
David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:58:40 +0300, Gevisz (gev...@gmail.com) wrote
 about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XFCE weather plugin does not work (in
 5442aa74.8212980a.2836.7...@mx.google.com):
 
  On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:18:34 +0100
  David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 [snip]
  You're welcome.  The Xfce developers did the hard yakka, I simply
  massaged the patches so that they would apply cleanly on Gentoo systems.
  
  Thank you anyway. :)
  
  But may I ask you if applying those patches could result
  in disappearing an alternative keyboard layout?
 
 There is nothing in those patches that can affect keyboard
 configuration.  The patches only handle data received over a HTTP
 connection to the Norwegian Meteorological Institute.  No keyboard stuff
 at all.
 
  If you modify the ebuild then you *must* update the manifest.  If you
  don't modify the ebuild then there is no need.
  
  Do you mean that putting the patches into /etc/portage/patches/ directory
  and emerging the packet does not change the corresponding ebuild?
 
 The ebuild is a small text file that scripts the build process.  The
 patches are external files to this process.  As a result, the patches do
 not affect the MD5 checksum for the ebuild file in the package's manifest.
 
  According to my experience, it is not the case because, reemerging the
  xfce4-weather-plugin with the patches deleted from /etc/portage/patches/
  directory, I've still got the working plugin and, only after unmerging it
  and re-emerging it again without the patches, I returned to its no-data
  condition.
 
 If it remained working then it was probably because you remained logged
 in to your Xfce desktop, which has the plugin cached inside the Xfce
 panel's address space.

May be.




Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-06 Thread gevisz
2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com


 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

 On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
  Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close,
  Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner.
 
  Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame
  from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close
  button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole
  screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
 
  I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but
  somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows
  had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the
  Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
 
  Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the
  sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out
  of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not do
  the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of
 course).
 
  However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the
  moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome
  (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet
  with the world map showing the daytime at different locations).
 
  Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and
  Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.


 I think the true answer is

 You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want

 I'm happy to be proved wrong though.

 If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will
 last only a short time.

 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com


 Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far

 1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other
  language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev
  configs),

 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example,
  I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher
  in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,

 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
 packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.

 All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back
 compared to Gnome 2
 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with
 Gnome 3 :^), as
 have not tried it so far).

 P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
 explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce,
 you are welcome. :^)

 I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:

Option XkbOptions
 grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(

Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the
 Xfce panel,
but could not find any.


A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included
in the xfce4-meta package
(and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
changing some of the plugin's
settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly,
the applet continued to switch
the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the
original ones. Magically, the rWin
key also started to switch the keyboard layout.

So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid.
The third one is not
so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it.
:^)

Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more
informative. :^)

However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is still
valid.

But not so important any more. :^)


Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com


 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

 On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
  Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close,
  Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner.
 
  Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window frame
  from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close
  button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole
  screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
 
  I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu but
  somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my windows
  had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the
  Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
 
  Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the
  sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons out
  of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not
  do
  the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of
  course).
 
  However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the
  moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome
  (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet
  with the world map showing the daytime at different locations).
 
  Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and
  Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.


 I think the true answer is

 You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want

 I'm happy to be proved wrong though.

 If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will
 last only a short time.

 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com


 Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far

 1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other
  language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev
  configs),

 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example,
  I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher
  in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,

 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
 packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.

 All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back
 compared to Gnome 2
 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with
 Gnome 3 :^), as
 have not tried it so far).

 P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
 explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce,
 you are welcome. :^)

 I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:

Option XkbOptions
 grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(

Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the
 Xfce panel,
but could not find any.


 A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not included in
 the xfce4-meta package
 (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
 indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
 I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
 changing some of the plugin's
 settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout. Interestingly,
 the applet continued to switch
 the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the
 original ones. Magically, the rWin
 key also started to switch the keyboard layout.

 So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid.
 The third one is not
 so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it.
 :^)

 Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even more
 informative. :^)

If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's
been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and
security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the
code base.

MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is down).

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-06 Thread gevisz
2013/9/6 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
  2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com
 
 
  2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
  On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
   Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a Close,
   Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner.
  
   Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary window
 frame
   from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the Close
   button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the whole
   screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
  
   I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under Ubuntu
 but
   somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all my
 windows
   had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception was the
   Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
  
   Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the
   sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize buttons
 out
   of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that do not
   do
   the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window, of
   course).
  
   However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because at the
   moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome
   (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather applet
   with the world map showing the daytime at different locations).
  
   Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and
   Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.
 
 
  I think the true answer is
 
  You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want
 
  I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
 
  If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain. It will
  last only a short time.
 
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 
  Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far
 
  1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other
   language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev
   configs),
 
  2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example,
   I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher
   in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,
 
  3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
  packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.
 
  All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back
  compared to Gnome 2
  (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared with
  Gnome 3 :^), as
  have not tried it so far).
 
  P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
  explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce,
  you are welcome. :^)
 
  I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:
 
 Option XkbOptions
  grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 
 It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(
 
 Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on the
  Xfce panel,
 but could not find any.
 
 
  A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not
 included in
  the xfce4-meta package
  (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
  indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
  I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
  changing some of the plugin's
  settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout.
 Interestingly,
  the applet continued to switch
  the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the
  original ones. Magically, the rWin
  key also started to switch the keyboard layout.
 
  So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more valid.
  The third one is not
  so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with it.
  :^)
 
  Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even
 more
  informative. :^)

 If you want GNOME 2, you should try MATE. GNOME 2 is unsupported; It's
 been years since somebody actually worked on it. Bugs, bitrot and
 security vulnerabilities are probably (if not surely) present in the
 code base.

 MATE supposedly tries to keep GNOME 2 alive (although its homepage is
 down).

--
 Canek Peláez Valdés
 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


But I have not found MATE in portage...

Anyway, it is not so important now, as I have already almost satisfied with
my present Xfce setup.

Thank you for the reply and have a nice weekend.


Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote:
 2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com
 
 
 2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
  Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a
 Close,
  Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right corner.
 
  Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary
 window frame
  from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the
 Close
  button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the
 whole
  screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
 
  I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under
 Ubuntu but
  somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all
 my windows
  had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception
 was the
  Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
 
  Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the
  sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize
 buttons out
  of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that
 do not do
  the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window,
 of course).
 
  However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because
 at the
  moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome
  (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather
 applet
  with the world map showing the daytime at different locations).
 
  Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore and
  Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.
 
 
 I think the true answer is
 
 You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want
 
 I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
 
 If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain.
 It will
 last only a short time.
 
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 
 Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far
 
 1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any other
  language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev
  configs),
 
 2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example,
  I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program launcher
  in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,
 
 3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
 packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.
 
 All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back
 compared to Gnome 2
 (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared
 with Gnome 3 :^), as
 have not tried it so far).
 
 P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
 explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce,
 you are welcome. :^)
 
 I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:
 
Option XkbOptions
 grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 
It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(
 
Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on
 the Xfce panel,
but could not find any.
 
 
 A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not
 included in the xfce4-meta package
 (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
 indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
 I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
 changing some of the plugin's
 settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout.
 Interestingly, the applet continued to switch
 the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the
 original ones. Magically, the rWin
 key also started to switch the keyboard layout.
 
 So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more
 valid. The third one is not
 so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with
 it. :^)
 
 Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even
 more informative. :^)
 
 However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is
 still valid.
 
 But not so important any more. :^)


Window decorations are usually done by the window manager, I assume
Gnome2 is no different?

Have you tried running a different window manager that supports what you
want?
What is the Gnome2 wm anyway? Metacity? (it's been so long since I
looked, I've forgotten)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-08 Thread gevisz
2013/9/6 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

 On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote:
  2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com
 
 
  2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
  mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
  On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
   Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a
  Close,
   Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right
 corner.
  
   Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary
  window frame
   from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains only the
  Close
   button with no possibility to maximize the window frame to the
  whole
   screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
  
   I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under
  Ubuntu but
   somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all
  my windows
   had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only exception
  was the
   Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
  
   Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens all the
   sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize
  buttons out
   of the box and without recompilation of all the programs that
  do not do
   the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark sub-window,
  of course).
  
   However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because
  at the
   moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my Gnome
   (especially, I miss the the all-in-one clock-calendar-weather
  applet
   with the world map showing the daytime at different locations).
  
   Could anybody advise me how to get the Close, Maximize/Restore
 and
   Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.
 
 
  I think the true answer is
 
  You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want
 
  I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
 
  If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the pain.
  It will
  last only a short time.
 
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
  mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 
  Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far
 
  1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to any
 other
   language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with evdev
   configs),
 
  2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for example,
   I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any program
 launcher
   in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,
 
  3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
  packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.
 
  All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step back
  compared to Gnome 2
  (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared
  with Gnome 3 :^), as
  have not tried it so far).
 
  P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
  explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in Fxce,
  you are welcome. :^)
 
  I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:
 
 Option XkbOptions
  grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 
 It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(
 
 Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on
  the Xfce panel,
 but could not find any.
 
 
  A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not
  included in the xfce4-meta package
  (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
  indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
  I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
  changing some of the plugin's
  settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout.
  Interestingly, the applet continued to switch
  the keyboard layout even after I have changed all its settings to the
  original ones. Magically, the rWin
  key also started to switch the keyboard layout.
 
  So, my first and most important objection against Xfce4 is no more
  valid. The third one is not
  so important. Only the second is a bit annoying but one can live with
  it. :^)
 
  Now, my Xfce4 looks almost like my Gnome2. Its weather applet is even
  more informative. :^)
 
  However, my original question about Deficient Gnome Window Frames is
  still valid.
 
  But not so important any more. :^)


 Window decorations are usually done by the window manager, I assume
 Gnome2 is no different?

 Have you tried running a different window manager that supports what you
 want

Re: [gentoo-user] Deficient Gnome Window Frames

2013-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/09/2013 12:02, gevisz wrote:
 2013/9/6 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 On 06/09/2013 20:55, gevisz wrote:
  2013/9/6 gevisz gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com
 mailto:gev...@gmail.com mailto:gev...@gmail.com
 
 
  2013/9/5 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
  mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
  On 05/09/2013 14:51, gevisz wrote:
   Usually, when I open a new window frame in Gnome 2, I have a
  Close,
   Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons on its upper-right
 corner.
  
   Sometimes, however, especially when I open a supplementary
  window frame
   from a running program, its upper (text) bar contains
 only the
  Close
   button with no possibility to maximize the window frame
 to the
  whole
   screen, and it is extremely inconvenient.
  
   I do remember that I had a similar problem in Gnome 2 under
  Ubuntu but
   somehow managed to get to the configuration where almost all
  my windows
   had Maximize/Restore and Minimize buttons. The only
 exception
  was the
   Firefox sub-window to save a bookmark. :^(
  
   Just now, I have tries FXCE and found out that it opens
 all the
   sub-windows with the Maximize/Restore, Close and Minimize
  buttons out
   of the box and without recompilation of all the
 programs that
  do not do
   the same in Gnome (except for the Firefox bookmark
 sub-window,
  of course).
  
   However, I am reluctant to migrate to FXCE right now because
  at the
   moment I cannot achieve the same look-and-feel as in my
 Gnome
   (especially, I miss the the all-in-one
 clock-calendar-weather
  applet
   with the world map showing the daytime at different
 locations).
  
   Could anybody advise me how to get the Close,
 Maximize/Restore and
   Minimize buttons in all window frames in Gnome 2.
 
 
  I think the true answer is
 
  You can't. The Gnome devs know better than you what you want
 
  I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
 
  If it bothers you, just migrate to XFCE and deal with the
 pain.
  It will
  last only a short time.
 
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
  mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 
  Currently, Gnome works better than Xfce for me, because so far
 
  1)  I found no way to switch keyboard layout from English to
 any other
   language (while Gnome and DWM do this after tackling with
 evdev
   configs),
 
  2) Gnome allows more combinations for hot key bindings, for
 example,
   I can not assign Win+Shift+any letter to any
 program launcher
   in Fxce, while it does work in Gnome,
 
  3) installing Orange in FXCE involves unmasking some dependent
  packages, but I like to stick to the stable thread.
 
  All in all, I do understand why Linus said that Xfce is a step
 back
  compared to Gnome 2
  (but I still have not got why Xfce is a big step forward compared
  with Gnome 3 :^), as
  have not tried it so far).
 
  P.S. I will probably post a separate question, but if somebody can
  explain how to setup language keyboad layout switch in
 Fxce,
  you are welcome. :^)
 
  I set up toggling the keyboard layout to rWin key in
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf as follows:
 
 Option XkbOptions
 
 grp:rwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
 
 It works for  Gnome and DWM but not for Xfce. :^(
 
 Moreover, I need the keyboard layout indicator somewhere on
  the Xfce panel,
 but could not find any.
 
 
  A short update: after installing xfce4-xkb-plugin, which was not
  included in the xfce4-meta package
  (and I did not noticed it earlier), I finally got a keyboard layout
  indicator. At first, it did not work, that is,
  I could not switch a keyboard layout in no way. However, later, after
  changing some of the plugin's
  settings, it suddenly started to switch the keyboard layout.
  Interestingly

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2014-07-26 Thread Grand Duet
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The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see package.use in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by dev-lang/ruby-1.9.3_p484[tk]
# required by dev-ruby/rake-0.9.6[ruby_targets_ruby19]
# required by dev-lang/ruby-2.0.0_p353
# required by dev-ruby/racc-1.4.9[ruby_targets_ruby20]
# required by dev-ruby/rdoc-4.0.1-r1[ruby_targets_ruby19]
=dev-lang/tk-8.5.15 threads

Use --autounmask-write to write changes to config files (honoring
CONFIG_PROTECT). Carefully examine the list of proposed changes,
paying special attention to mask or keyword changes that may expose
experimental or unstable packages.

%
% Here, I delete gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor line from 
/var/lib/portage/world 
% and add dev-lang/tk threads line to /etc/portage/package.use 
%

# emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --ask world

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