Re: [gentoo-user] Tablet PC? Anyone?

2009-02-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 02:16:34PM -0500, Penguin Lover Vizo Allman squawked:
 I am running a lenovo x-61 table for my everyday machine and it works pretty
 well for me. I use Xournal to draw pics and take quick handwritten notes.
 

Ooh, Xournal is wonderful. It it also useful for my current normal
laptop. I love its PDF annotation mode. 

The X61 looks nice. I'm having a bit of difficulty locating the video
card on their specs page (probably just me being stupid or something),
can you tell me what video it uses? The Intel Wifi looks good, and
lenovo's website is looking like it is having a sale right now (almost
half of the list price!)

When you say Works pretty well, does it mean that there's nothing
to complain about or except for this little itty bit of problem
[insert problem here]?

Thanks for your response!

W
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
 Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making notes 
 in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that 
 allowed that.
 If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular) do 
 it, I'd be very grateful :-)
 
I don't use a PDF reader for that :)

I manage my PDF documents with Jabref, and I add a comment field to
store general comments about the PDF. For margin-notes I use the
PDF-annotation feature of xournal. 

W

-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] voice or touch data entry apps

2009-04-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida

James wrote:

Hello,

I'm looking for special types of applications that allow 
for data entry, via voice commands or using the touch screen

on a  touch screen enabled laptop.

KDE4 is my preferred desktop, but any application that 
will run on kde4 and gentoo is of interest. Is there

anything like this out there? My specific application
is for live data entry into some form of interface
that resembles a the kind of score sheet used manually
for stats during a basketball game.


Any ideas or resources are welcome related to software, touch screen 
enabled laptops or tablets or voice input/response are all of

keen (gentoo) interest for me.


James



I have gentoo on a tablet fujitsu P1610 but I've not had time to look 
into the touch screen setup. Busy now and still need to move from xorg 
1.3 to 1.5. However I intend to take a look at


app-text/xournal

as soon as I have the stylus working.

--
Valmor




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pdf viewing suggestions?

2010-02-24 Thread daid kahl
On 25 February 2010 02:46, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
  Does Foxit Reader support editing pdf files (By editing I mean making
 notes in them etc.), I've been having some trouble finding a pdf-reader that
 allowed that.
  If anyone has any suggestions as to what pdf readers (other than okular)
 do it, I'd be very grateful :-)
 
 I don't use a PDF reader for that :)

 I manage my PDF documents with Jabref, and I add a comment field to
 store general comments about the PDF. For margin-notes I use the
 PDF-annotation feature of xournal.

 W

 --
 Willie W. Wong
 ww...@math.princeton.edu


jabref is totally amazing, and I also use that.  I can fully endorse it to
anyone using bibtex sorts of things.

~daid


Re: [gentoo-user] Tablet PC? Anyone?

2009-02-20 Thread Vizo Allman
I am running a lenovo x-61 table for my everyday machine and it works pretty
well for me. I use Xournal to draw pics and take quick handwritten notes.



On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 09:13:11AM -0330, Penguin Lover Roger Mason
 squawked:
  Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu writes:
 
 Mainly what I am looking for is some sort of
 pen-mouse/tablet/touchscreen interface that makes drawing diagrams
 simpler (compared to a touchpad or the little dit that sits between
 the g,h, and b keys on a laptop). So if anyone knows of a laptop
 with this kind of built-in interface, it will also be good.
  
 
  Have you thought of attaching a drawing tablet to your existing laptop?
 
  I have a wacom tablet that works pretty well.  I think there is an
  article on the wiki about installation.
 

 Yes. I have thought about it. But if, for example, I sit in the
 economy class cabin on an airplane, a laptop + a wacom tablet hardly
 fits in the space in front of me.

 Ditto for a lot of conference/lecture halls.

 I am still not ruling out the possibility, but I want to first see
 what you all have to say about TabletPCs.

 W
 --
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade Question

2013-11-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/11/2013 16:19, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hello, 
 
 i run emerge -avuDN @world and again must recompile packages. Why, i
 understand not why? I have no probs with small packages, but why 
 again libreoffice? I change nothing in USE Flags, but portage want
 recompile. Can me explain someone why?
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild U  ] net-print/cups-1.6.4 [1.6.2-r5] USE=X acl dbus filters pam 
 python ssl threads -debug -gnutls -java -kerberos -lprng-compat (-selinux) 
 -static-libs -usb -xinetd -zeroconf LINGUAS=fr -ca -es -ja -ru 
 PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7%* -python2_6% PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7%* 
 -python2_6% 0 kB
 [ebuild  r  U  ] app-text/poppler-0.24.3:0/43 [0.22.5:0/37] USE=cairo cxx 
 introspection jpeg lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc -jpeg2k 0 
 kB
 [ebuild  r  U  ] net-print/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1 [1.0.34-r1] USE=jpeg png 
 tiff -perl -static-libs -zeroconf 0 kB
 [ebuild  rR] media-gfx/inkscape-0.48.4  USE=lcms nls spell -dia -gnome 
 -inkjar -postscript -wmf 0 kB
 [ebuild  rR] app-text/xournal-0.4.7  USE=pdf -vanilla 0 kB
 [ebuild  rR   #] app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3  USE=cups dbus gtk opengl 
 vba (-aqua) -bluetooth -branding -debug -eds -gnome -gstreamer -gtk3 -java 
 -jemalloc -kde -mysql -odk -postgres -telepathy {-test} -webdav 
 LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS=presenter-minimizer -nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell 
 -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 
 -python3_3 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 -python3_3 0 kB
 [ebuild  rR   ~] app-text/calibre-1.7  USE=udisks 0 kB


Thsi is not the first time you ask the question Why does package X need
to be rebuilt? Every time you want to know this, run emerge again with
the -t option, it shows the dependency tree and that shows you why the
package is being rebuilt.

In this specific case, it's poppler.

Poppler is the second most annoying package in the universe (first is
icu). The way it is coded and built, every tiny little change seems to
cause API/ABI changes and means that everything using it must be
rebuilt. What uses poppler? Almost everything that tries to deal with
pdf, and that is half of app-text and app-office. That's just how it is.

Look in the ebuilds for libreoffice, inkscape and xournal. Each one of
them has a DEPEND something like this:

=app-text/poppler-0.16:=[xpdf-headers(+),cxx]

Notice the := in there, that's a sub-slot operator and it triggers a
rebuild of libreoffice everytime poppler is upgraded. Your emerge output
shows that poppler is to be upgraded and that's why libreoffice now
needs to be upgraded too. If you don't upgrade it, it might be broken
(or maybe not, it's almost impossible to tell). Dont blame libreoffice,
blame the poppler devs and tell them to get their act together and stop
changing stuff every other day.


 
 Total: 7 packages (3 upgrades, 4 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 The following mask changes are necessary to proceed:
  (see package.unmask in the portage(5) man page for more details)
 # required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument)
 # /etc/portage/package.mask:
 =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3


You also need to deal with this.
You masked libreoffice-4.1.2.3 but it's also still installed. That is
inconsistent; either unmask it and rebuild or leave it masked and downgrade.


 
 
 Libreoffice need long time, without big use flags.
 
 gentoomobile siefke # genlop -t libreoffice
  * app-office/libreoffice
 
  Mon Jun 17 20:44:35 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.0.3.3
merge time: 13 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds.
 
  Fri Jun 21 22:11:39 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2
merge time: 13 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds.
 
  Wed Jun 26 14:25:10 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1
merge time: 14 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds.
 
  Mon Jul 15 09:24:27 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
merge time: 14 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds.
 
  Sun Sep 22 19:59:07 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.1.2
merge time: 14 hours, 9 minutes and 56 seconds.
 
  Fri Oct 25 00:35:01 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3
merge time: 17 hours, 51 minutes and 30 seconds.
 
 
 Thanks for help  Nice day
 Silvio
 


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Upgrade Question

2013-11-01 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, 

i run emerge -avuDN @world and again must recompile packages. Why, i
understand not why? I have no probs with small packages, but why 
again libreoffice? I change nothing in USE Flags, but portage want
recompile. Can me explain someone why?

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] net-print/cups-1.6.4 [1.6.2-r5] USE=X acl dbus filters pam 
python ssl threads -debug -gnutls -java -kerberos -lprng-compat (-selinux) 
-static-libs -usb -xinetd -zeroconf LINGUAS=fr -ca -es -ja -ru 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7%* -python2_6% PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7%* 
-python2_6% 0 kB
[ebuild  r  U  ] app-text/poppler-0.24.3:0/43 [0.22.5:0/37] USE=cairo cxx 
introspection jpeg lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc -jpeg2k 0 kB
[ebuild  r  U  ] net-print/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1 [1.0.34-r1] USE=jpeg png 
tiff -perl -static-libs -zeroconf 0 kB
[ebuild  rR] media-gfx/inkscape-0.48.4  USE=lcms nls spell -dia -gnome 
-inkjar -postscript -wmf 0 kB
[ebuild  rR] app-text/xournal-0.4.7  USE=pdf -vanilla 0 kB
[ebuild  rR   #] app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3  USE=cups dbus gtk opengl vba 
(-aqua) -bluetooth -branding -debug -eds -gnome -gstreamer -gtk3 -java 
-jemalloc -kde -mysql -odk -postgres -telepathy {-test} -webdav 
LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS=presenter-minimizer -nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell 
-scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 
-python3_3 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 -python3_3 0 kB
[ebuild  rR   ~] app-text/calibre-1.7  USE=udisks 0 kB

Total: 7 packages (3 upgrades, 4 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB

The following mask changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see package.unmask in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument)
# /etc/portage/package.mask:
=app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3


Libreoffice need long time, without big use flags.

gentoomobile siefke # genlop -t libreoffice
 * app-office/libreoffice

 Mon Jun 17 20:44:35 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.0.3.3
   merge time: 13 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds.

 Fri Jun 21 22:11:39 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2
   merge time: 13 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds.

 Wed Jun 26 14:25:10 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.1
   merge time: 14 hours, 15 minutes and 41 seconds.

 Mon Jul 15 09:24:27 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
   merge time: 14 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds.

 Sun Sep 22 19:59:07 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.1.2
   merge time: 14 hours, 9 minutes and 56 seconds.

 Fri Oct 25 00:35:01 2013  app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3
   merge time: 17 hours, 51 minutes and 30 seconds.


Thanks for help  Nice day
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade Question

2013-11-01 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 22:40:15 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thsi is not the first time you ask the question Why does package X
 need to be rebuilt? Every time you want to know this, run emerge
 again with the -t option, it shows the dependency tree and that shows
 you why the package is being rebuilt.

Yes that's right  I'm sorry that I nerve. Maybe i change to Arch, i has
installed on other Netbook and run without Problems and for a binary 
System is fast. 

 
 In this specific case, it's poppler.
 
 Poppler is the second most annoying package in the universe (first is
 icu). The way it is coded and built, every tiny little change seems to
 cause API/ABI changes and means that everything using it must be
 rebuilt. What uses poppler? Almost everything that tries to deal with
 pdf, and that is half of app-text and app-office. That's just how it
 is.
 
 Look in the ebuilds for libreoffice, inkscape and xournal. Each one of
 them has a DEPEND something like this:
 
 =app-text/poppler-0.16:=[xpdf-headers(+),cxx]

Yes i have see that and has find out that poppler is the problem.

 Notice the := in there, that's a sub-slot operator and it triggers a
 rebuild of libreoffice everytime poppler is upgraded. Your emerge
 output shows that poppler is to be upgraded and that's why
 libreoffice now needs to be upgraded too. If you don't upgrade it, it
 might be broken (or maybe not, it's almost impossible to tell). Dont
 blame libreoffice, blame the poppler devs and tell them to get their
 act together and stop changing stuff every other day.

I has run libreoffice without problems, but i not use the pdf function
in libreoffice. I write and print :) . I deal at moment with Abiword and
Gnumeric. I think its enough so that i should delete libreoffice. Then
only Webkit of GTK, QT and GCC which need more as one hour. 

 You also need to deal with this.
 You masked libreoffice-4.1.2.3 but it's also still installed. That is
 inconsistent; either unmask it and rebuild or leave it masked and
 downgrade.

Yes i mask bigger package when i saw in @world and not see why should run 
upgrade. I know Gentoo is rolling release, but in some things must not really
be or? 

Thanks for teaching about poppler. I not know thats so important. And what do 
ICU? Its language files or? 

So again im sorry i nerve i know, but thats we can say so: Social Contacts
important :) 

I find funny because the bigger Programs or important Stuff like kernel has
never and in panic, and so small program like poppler make panic. When someone
say size is important, hhh they not know what they say. 


Thank you  Greetings
Silvio