Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
GDM it is then. I have just emerge'd it - now to give it a try.. I certanly don't want to re-invent the wheel if an existing dm will do what I want.. Fingers crossed... Regards, DigbyT P.S. I forgot to mention - I quite like the analogue clock on the XDM greeter, so I am hoping GDM will have something similar.. On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:22:26AM -0400, James Hiscock wrote: > > So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the > > 'session type' menu that was taken away > > GDM's got just that - with a couple more options (configuration, > shutdown menu) -- and it's heavily theme-able, so you can probably > find something appropriate for you in the gdm-themes package. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
> So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the > 'session type' menu that was taken away GDM's got just that - with a couple more options (configuration, shutdown menu) -- and it's heavily theme-able, so you can probably find something appropriate for you in the gdm-themes package. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:33:59AM -0400, James Hiscock wrote: > > Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the > > source or roll back to an older version. > > > > Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that > > I should look at? > > gdm? entrance? Thanks - I'll take a look before I resort to hacking the source of KDM. I see 'entrance' is currently masked. The default 3D theme looks pretty impressive cosmetically - but does it have any important functional differences to make it worth looking at. Likewise for GDM? Thinking about it, if I wanted to unclutter the login greeter, I would get rid of the Go/Login button and the clear buttons which I have never needed - after all, I have to use the keyboard to enter my password, so when is reaching for a mouse going to be easier than just pressing return??? I could probably also do away with the shutdown option as well, just by adding a 'shutdown' and 'reboot' user - so I can password protect the options if I want without any obscure display manager configuration settings. So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the 'session type' menu that was taken away I suppose I would have to join the KDE list to figure out what people were thinking here. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
> Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the > source or roll back to an older version. > > Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that > I should look at? gdm? entrance? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
Thank you both for your comments. A little bit disappointing given that there is so much questionable configurability in the kdmrc file, yet something I actually used is taken away with no configuration option to put it back :-/ It may be that most users like to stick to the one WM, but how many would know to tinker with the menu before they login for the first time to choose their preferred WM. Or perhaps it is all a cunning plan to increase KDE market share Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the source or roll back to an older version. Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that I should look at? Regards, DigbyT On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 04:47:37PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:09 -0700 > John Myers wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > > Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading > > > "Session Type" with a drop down menu which in its passive state > > > shows the window manager that will be used by default once you > > > enter your user name. > > > > > > On the bottom line are four buttons/menus: Go, Clear, Menu and Shutdown, > > > with 'menu' just containing the 'restart x-server' option. > > > > > > However on my Gentoo install, I get no "Session Type" line, and only > > > three options on the bottom line: Login, Clear and Menu. > > > > > > Now the "Shutdown" and "Session Type" functionality does exist on > > > the gentoo setup, but it is burried down in the 'Menu' sub-menus, > > > nowhere near as convenient to get to, and as I change window managers > > > all the time, annoying not to have a display of what the default is > > > going to be for the next session. > > > > > > So I am curious - is there a setting somewhere that I have not > > > stumbled accross that controls this behaviour? Has KDM taken a > > > backward step? Or did SuSE make some improvements that hasn't found > > > their way into other systems yet?? > > > > AFAIK, you're out of luck, unless you want to modify the KDM source > > yourself. > > I don't remember how 2.2 kdm worked, but I know all the 3.x kdms I've used > > have the layout you describe. Also, IIRC, there have been discussions on > > the > > KDE lists about what the name of the Menu menu should be, because of its > > contents, including the Session Type submenu. > > > > Actually , now that you mention it, I do remember the session type option. > > But > > I certainly haven't seen it since I moved to Gentoo (post-kde-3.0), and I > > do > > think it eventually disappeared from my Mandrake kdm back when I used > > Mandrake. > > Like John I am pretty sure that this is a "feature" of the current kdm > setup. I got lost finding sessions to start with. I dunno why they hid > it in "menu" - perhaps to unclutter, or perhaps to be less confusing to > people that just want to keep using the same WM. > > BTW the graphical configurator for kdm can be started with "kcmshell kdm" - > or somewhere in the k menu. > > > -- > Nick Rout > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:09 -0700 John Myers wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading > > "Session Type" with a drop down menu which in its passive state > > shows the window manager that will be used by default once you > > enter your user name. > > > > On the bottom line are four buttons/menus: Go, Clear, Menu and Shutdown, > > with 'menu' just containing the 'restart x-server' option. > > > > However on my Gentoo install, I get no "Session Type" line, and only > > three options on the bottom line: Login, Clear and Menu. > > > > Now the "Shutdown" and "Session Type" functionality does exist on > > the gentoo setup, but it is burried down in the 'Menu' sub-menus, > > nowhere near as convenient to get to, and as I change window managers > > all the time, annoying not to have a display of what the default is > > going to be for the next session. > > > > So I am curious - is there a setting somewhere that I have not > > stumbled accross that controls this behaviour? Has KDM taken a > > backward step? Or did SuSE make some improvements that hasn't found > > their way into other systems yet?? > > AFAIK, you're out of luck, unless you want to modify the KDM source yourself. > I don't remember how 2.2 kdm worked, but I know all the 3.x kdms I've used > have the layout you describe. Also, IIRC, there have been discussions on the > KDE lists about what the name of the Menu menu should be, because of its > contents, including the Session Type submenu. > > Actually , now that you mention it, I do remember the session type option. > But > I certainly haven't seen it since I moved to Gentoo (post-kde-3.0), and I do > think it eventually disappeared from my Mandrake kdm back when I used > Mandrake. Like John I am pretty sure that this is a "feature" of the current kdm setup. I got lost finding sessions to start with. I dunno why they hid it in "menu" - perhaps to unclutter, or perhaps to be less confusing to people that just want to keep using the same WM. BTW the graphical configurator for kdm can be started with "kcmshell kdm" - or somewhere in the k menu. -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: > Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading > "Session Type" with a drop down menu which in its passive state > shows the window manager that will be used by default once you > enter your user name. > > On the bottom line are four buttons/menus: Go, Clear, Menu and Shutdown, > with 'menu' just containing the 'restart x-server' option. > > However on my Gentoo install, I get no "Session Type" line, and only > three options on the bottom line: Login, Clear and Menu. > > Now the "Shutdown" and "Session Type" functionality does exist on > the gentoo setup, but it is burried down in the 'Menu' sub-menus, > nowhere near as convenient to get to, and as I change window managers > all the time, annoying not to have a display of what the default is > going to be for the next session. > > So I am curious - is there a setting somewhere that I have not > stumbled accross that controls this behaviour? Has KDM taken a > backward step? Or did SuSE make some improvements that hasn't found > their way into other systems yet?? AFAIK, you're out of luck, unless you want to modify the KDM source yourself. I don't remember how 2.2 kdm worked, but I know all the 3.x kdms I've used have the layout you describe. Also, IIRC, there have been discussions on the KDE lists about what the name of the Menu menu should be, because of its contents, including the Session Type submenu. Actually , now that you mention it, I do remember the session type option. But I certainly haven't seen it since I moved to Gentoo (post-kde-3.0), and I do think it eventually disappeared from my Mandrake kdm back when I used Mandrake. pgpN3VMJAhF8c.pgp Description: PGP signature