Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-07 Thread Martoni
On Apr 7, 2005 5:17 AM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:3. the friendliness and willingness of the users and this type ofmailing list.Not
to disappoint you, but my experience is that the Gentoo community is
above and beyond the rest (I know of, RH/Mandrake/Linux general ng's)
in friendliness, helpfulness and usefulness.
Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Richard Fish
Martoni wrote:

 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?


This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
kernel, would exist.

There is really only one app I couldn't live without whether I am
running Windows or Linux, and that is VMWare. 

But what I really value on Linux is the freedom, of choice, of the code,
and of configuration.  I have configured my  Gentoo system to work
exactly the way I want it, exactly how it suits me best.  It is a level
of control not available on Windows.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Martoni wrote:
|  What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at
|  all)?
| 
| 
| This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
| kernel, would exist.

egcs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Alan
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:01:44AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | Martoni wrote:
 |  What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at
 |  all)?
 | 
 | 
 | This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
 | kernel, would exist.
 
 egcs

Yea, but while both these apps are needed for everything else, I don't
think they are a killer app in themselves.  Neither of them are
something you'd say to convince $windows_person that they should check
out linux.  I'd say something like the gimp (though that's available on
windows now :) or evolution (maybe).  Man, I used to know this
stuff. grrr




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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Persson
On April 5, 2005 09:27 pm, quoth Martoni:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?

 A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door
 live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than
 The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :) I'm considering getting VMWare for
 his box, installing Gentoo on it - and having them play the Wesnoth game on
 that ...

 Personally I wouldn't live without Kontact - which is more of a KDE killer
 app (together with the F4 open terminal function in Konq) ever since
 Evolution drifted away from the integrated approach.


 Regards,

 Martin S

I agree that Kontact is a pretty major reason to run linux.

I would also say that MLDonkey is a much better way to do file sharing than 
what is available for windows because it is not vulnerable to gui crashes and 
therefore runs much longer.

If you are into typography (a minority interest I know) then the humble 
fontforge is pretty damn good.  Much better than Fontographer which is hugely 
expensive despite the fact that it hasn't changed for several years.

Zynaddsubfx is a wonderful musical instrument, even though there are still 
many more great softsynths for windows than there are for linux.

And I almost forgot jack!  A fantastic sound server.  Also plays well with 
AudioUnits in OSX, which opens a realm of possibilities for networked signal 
processing between *nix boxes.  Still short of mature clients, although Linux 
music software has come a long way recently.  There's a recording studio in 
Minneapolis that makes heavy use of Linux.  Flexible networking and lack of 
per-instance license fees bring their costs down massively and let clients 
continue to work on their projects in their own time outside of the studio, 
which can be very useful.

Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:27:16AM +0200, Martoni wrote:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?
 
 A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door 
 live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than 
 The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :)  
Shhh, Wesnoth is available for windows.
http://www.wesnoth.org/downloads

There is no killer app that didnt get ported, I guess. But linux is
much more secure already by default.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Martoni
On Apr 6, 2005 11:10 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:27:16AM +0200, Martoni wrote: What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)? A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :)Shhh, Wesnoth is available for windows.http://www.wesnoth.org/downloadsThere is no killer app that didnt get ported, I guess. But linux ismuch more secure already by default.
Oh! :)
* Hoping to get his 'puter back * 
Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 06:27, Martoni wrote:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?


the gimp, it kills harddisk space, cpu cycles, and the nerves of the person 
trying to use it. A real killer. 

If you mean 'killer app' in a positive sense, I would vote for .. hmm kate? 
kpdf? vegastrike? Xemacs?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Covington, Chris
ps - and ut2004 ;) 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Nick Rout
I prefer to think of killer features, so my vote is for the following:

1. the GPL - it means we can see the source and fix it if necessary
(well I can't but the smarter cookies can and are usually prepared to
help)

2. the plain text configuration file, for similar reasons.

3. the friendliness and willingness of the users and this type of
mailing list.


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