Re: [gentoo-user] boot specific service in sequence

2010-02-26 Thread Xavier Parizet
On 02/26/2010 06:14 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com wrote: On 02/25/2010 02:12 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:15:57 +0100, Xavier Parizet wrote: The syntax is: rc_need_[name of the service]=[list of space-separated

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 23 February 2010 02:06, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: well, cfg-update keeps a backup. It detects manual edits and try to resolve conflicts resulting from that automatically. Which works surprisingly well. If Volker gave me

Re: [gentoo-user] openvpn static ip

2010-02-26 Thread Xavier Parizet
On 02/25/2010 11:21 PM, Joseph wrote: On 02/25/10 22:17, Xavier Parizet wrote: [snip] I added full path to the server for ccd: /etc/openvpn/ccd Now I'm getting consistent IP: 192.168.139.2 every-time I restart openvpn.client_clinic2 but I'm not getting what I requested in ccd/syscon9:

Re: [gentoo-user] boot specific service in sequence

2010-02-26 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com wrote: On 02/26/2010 06:14 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com wrote: On 02/25/2010 02:12 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:15:57 +0100, Xavier Parizet

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there a lock daemon for managing file locking on an NFS server?

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Walker
Neil Walker wrote: I use http-proxy now. Sorry, that should be http-replicator. Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com

Re: [gentoo-user] openvpn static ip

2010-02-26 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday 26 February 2010 01:39:55 Joseph wrote: On 02/25/10 22:17, Xavier Parizet wrote: From what i can see, please try to add full path to the ccd directory in client-config-dir directive on the server path. Also check permissions on that directory. On which user are you running openvpn on

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool 2.x upgrade

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:15:09 +0100, bn wrote: I have a stable x86 system that requires still a bit of updating, among those libtool and gcc. Since I need the system to be usable *now* for work reasons, I don't feel like updating gcc and rebuilding it all with an emerge -e system / emerge -e

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:33:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: So I got my wife's machine booted today using a install disk and played a bit with e2fsck. The machine stopped being happy last night due to some sort of corruption on the /var partition. e2fsck complained about 3 or 4 files and then

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: Do I just watch the logs looking for problems? I have no way of knowing right now whether this was a disk problem that's going to come back, a 1 time deal due to power, or something else entirely. As these cheap machines that don't use RAID what's the right way to go?

Re: [gentoo-user] boot specific service in sequence

2010-02-26 Thread Xavier Parizet
On 02/26/2010 09:19 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com wrote: On 02/26/2010 06:14 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com wrote: On 02/25/2010 02:12 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On

[gentoo-user] /var/lib/init.d/exclusive/netmount

2010-02-26 Thread Jarno Antikainen
Hello, after updating a few packages, some init scripts got stuck when starting services (at least mysql and apache). Doing /etc/init.d/mysql --verbose --debug start revealed that they got stuck doing cat /var/lib/init.d/exclusive/netmount. Sounds like something related to nfs, and I had

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libtool 2.x upgrade

2010-02-26 Thread bn
Nikos Chantziaras ha scritto: On 02/26/2010 03:15 AM, bn wrote: Hi, I have a stable x86 system that requires still a bit of updating, among those libtool and gcc. Since I need the system to be usable *now* for work reasons, I don't feel like updating gcc and rebuilding it all with an emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 12:33, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: So I got my wife's machine booted today using a install disk and played a bit with e2fsck. The machine stopped being happy last night due to some sort of corruption on the /var partition. e2fsck complained about 3 or 4 files

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 10:06, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 25 Feb 2010, at 17:59, daid kahl wrote: ... As a side note, I tried dd piped through ssh and my router (with firewall) was resetting the connection after around 4GB, and I don't know of anyway to resume a dd.

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 25 February 2010 19:40:17 Dale wrote: Could you post the message for us? I would like a fix for this as well. Hmm. I can't find it now either. Anyway, this is what I did: Right-click in the Konsole window, select Edit Current Profile, open the Tabs tab and add : %w to the string

[gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)

2010-02-26 Thread William Kenworthy
I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The main use I am concerned about is a PXE system with root over nfs where I am putting the portage tmp and some other stuff in tmpfs for speed. tmpfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:59:37 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: Now I think about it, this doesn't sound as though it will do what I want, but nothing else comes to mind at the moment. I never use tabs in Konsole, preferring to have several instances running so that I can see what they're up to.

[gentoo-user] alsamixer transparent, should submit feature to bugzilla?

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
Hello, I've been converting myself over to console applications when possible now. I think it has a sleek look, and it ought to reduce my overhead. So on my mutlimedia workspace, I'd considered running a nearly full screen terminal of alsamixer with a command line music player in a smaller

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The main use I am concerned about is a PXE system with root over nfs where I am putting the portage

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)

2010-02-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 13:28 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The main use I am concerned about

Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixer transparent, should submit feature to bugzilla?

2010-02-26 Thread Stroller
On 26 Feb 2010, at 12:19, daid kahl wrote: ... My question is if anyone is going to accept this as a reasonable feature addition to alsa-mixer on the main portage tree. I assume perhaps not, but I can't really see almost any advantage of the forced black background. If you want a black

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, 440 permissions, where users are in some useful 'backup' group, then while tarball can

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool 2.x upgrade

2010-02-26 Thread bn
Neil Bothwick ha scritto: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:15:09 +0100, bn wrote: I have a stable x86 system that requires still a bit of updating, among those libtool and gcc. Since I need the system to be usable *now* for work reasons, I don't feel like updating gcc and rebuilding it all with an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 02/26/2010 06:06 AM, BRM wrote: I am quite happy with KDE4 - presently using KDE 4.3.5. I still have KDE 3.5.10 installed,

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 26 February 2010 12:17:11 Neil Bothwick wrote: With KDE 4 you can split a single console window do display the content of multiple tabs at once. Really? I can't see how to do that. It could be useful. -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday 26 February 2010 15:39:52 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 26 February 2010 12:17:11 Neil Bothwick wrote: With KDE 4 you can split a single console window do display the content of multiple tabs at once. Really? I can't see how to do that. It could be useful. In the menu: View

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
BRM writes: If you keep your world file (/var/lib/portage/world) tidy, simply deleting all lines with KDE3 packages and running emerge -a -- depclean will take care of it. You *do* keep your world file tidy, don't you? :P That would be the easiest method. If you use the

Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] openvpn static ip

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
On 02/26/10 09:33, J. Roeleveld wrote: [snip] ...syscon9/68.148.245.78:56172 TEST FILE '/etc/openvpn/ccd/syscon9' [0] ...syscon9/68.148.245.78:56172 TEST FILE '/etc/openvpn/ccd/DEFAULT' [0] ...syscon9/68.148.245.78:56172 MULTI: Learn: 192.168.139.2 - syscon9/68.148.245.78:56172 If I change

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: Do I just watch the logs looking for problems? I have no way of knowing right now whether this was a disk problem that's going to come back, a 1 time deal due to power, or something else entirely.

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-26 Thread Kyle Bader
I opted to reinstall from source that machine, which wasn't exactly a bad choice anyway.  But as always, rtfm is good advice!  Thanks (not sarcastic, except to mock myself). Another option other than rsync or dd is to use tar: tar cf - $old_dir | ( cd $new_dir: tar xf - ) tar cf - $old_dir |

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Kyle Bader writes: I opted to reinstall from source that machine, which wasn't exactly a bad choice anyway. But as always, rtfm is good advice! Thanks (not sarcastic, except to mock myself). Another option other than rsync or dd is to use tar: Yeah, that's what I usually do.n The

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: Yes, I do use smartctl on some other machines although I'm not very good about it and your write-up is helpful so thanks for that. My wife's machines is older and and I don't think SMART is supported on her drive. Note the lack of a * on the SMART line in hdparm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org BRM writes: If you keep your world file (/var/lib/portage/world) tidy, simply deleting all lines with KDE3 packages and running emerge -a -- depclean will take care of it. You

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes:    Yes, I do use smartctl on some other machines although I'm not very good about it and your write-up is helpful so thanks for that.    My wife's machines is older and and I don't think SMART is

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Okay, but it still states: *SMART error logging *SMART self-test So maybe smartctl -t long /dev/hda still works? Just give it a try. No, -t long fails the same

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 22:23, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, 440 permissions,

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 12:33, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: So I got my wife's machine booted today using a install disk and played a bit with e2fsck. The machine stopped being happy last night due to some sort of corruption on the /var partition. e2fsck complained about 3 or 4 files

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 26 February 2010 15:08:29 J. Roeleveld wrote: In the menu: View - Split View Then you can choose to split it horizontally or vertically. To undo, close the active view Ah, I see. I don't usually have a visible menu so I didn't see it. Thanks. I still prefer to place my three

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Okay, but it still states:          *    SMART error logging          *    SMART self-test So maybe smartctl -t

[gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Hartman
Hi, I'm building a new personal computer. I respect the opinion and experience of the people on this list and am interested in anyone's advice on the best way to set up my new Gentoo installation. Things that you say I wish I set mine up this way the first time... or have learned from experience

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: The machine _mostly_ crashed while running badblocks. I say mostly because the mouse is still alive but I can no longer ssh in and cannot open a terminal on my wife's desktop or get to the console. because it is not crashed but waiting for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: - Original Message From: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 02/26/2010 06:06 AM, BRM wrote: I am quite

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-26 Thread Kyle Bader
tar cf - $old_dir | ( cd $new_dir: tar xf - ) tar cf - $old_dir | ssh $other_host ( cd $new_dir: tar xf - )                                                    ^ The ':' separating commands should be a ';'. Using the -C option would be a little easier, but your method also would work for star.

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: protip: if you are running badblocks (or ddrescue) on a probably damaged device - attach it with an usb adapter. That way your box is still usable. +1, i had a bad drive and it's so much easier to

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation

2010-02-26 Thread Kyle Bader
- be aware of cylinder boundaries when partitioning (thanks to the recent thread) +1 - utilizing device labels and/or volume labels instead of hoping /dev/sda stays /dev/sda always +1 - initrd - I've never used one, but maybe it's needed if root is on software RAID? It's not technically

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: The machine _mostly_ crashed while running badblocks. I say mostly because the mouse is still alive but I can no longer ssh in and cannot open a terminal on

[gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/26/2010 06:10 PM, BRM wrote: [...] From: Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org That's the only issue. My only concern is software (e.g. KDevelop) that may not have been updated to KDE4 yet. (Not a fan of KDevelop3; waiting to see how KDevelop4 is going to shape up.) The KDE4 version is in

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 14 February 2010 11:32:12 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:03:40 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably the majority, won't be flaged at

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote: The machine _mostly_ crashed while running badblocks. I say mostly because the mouse is still alive but I

[gentoo-user] [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Harry Putnam
ALERT [ This is a slightly rewritten repost from `gmane.[...].perl.beginners', where it got no responses] ---- ---=--- - My subject line is probably not really that good at describing what I want advice on but here it is: I've setup one

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Peter Humphrey writes: I'm still using etc-update, which seems adequate except when squid is upgraded, but I thought I'd try cfg-update. Problem though: it demands dev-util/xxdiff which doesn't exist. What's a suitable substitute? Whatever you like. Just edit the MERGETOOL definition in

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP On the other hand, because I have reasonably good user backups (although no real system backups) right now if I bite the bullet and build the machine then when my wife gets it back it's hopefully going to be more

[gentoo-user] openvpn - Socket bind failed on local address [undef]:1194

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
I have one client and trying to connect to two openvpn servers (both servers are behind same IP address): client1 remote 208.38.31.237 9000 client2 remote 208.38.31.237 9050 I can connect to them one at a time but not both at the same time. If I try to start the second connection I get:

Re: [gentoo-user] recovery from /var corruption?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:38 AM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 February 2010 12:33, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: So I got my wife's machine booted today using a install disk and played a bit with e2fsck. The machine stopped being happy last night due to some sort of

Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] openvpn - Socket bind failed on local address [undef]:1194

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
On 02/26/10 11:50, Joseph wrote: I have one client and trying to connect to two openvpn servers (both servers are behind same IP address): client1 remote 208.38.31.237 9000 client2 remote 208.38.31.237 9050 I can connect to them one at a time but not both at the same time. If I try to start

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation

2010-02-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:54:13AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: - better partitioning scheme than my current root, boot, home (need portage on its own, maybe /var as well?) /var if you are worried about log files piling up. I don't put portage on its own, but I use reiserfs for / - some kind

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Some topics I'm thinking about (comments welcome): - be aware of cylinder boundaries when partitioning (thanks to the recent thread) - utilizing device labels and/or volume labels

[gentoo-user] KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one from the terminal (be it Dolphin, Konqueror or whatever) the output generated is pretty much gigantic. It's stuff like this: QPainter::setPen: Painter not active

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 20:40:40 Harry Putnam wrote: ALERT [ This is a slightly rewritten repost from `gmane.[...].perl.beginners', where it got no responses] ---- ---=--- - My subject line is probably not really that good at

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation

2010-02-26 Thread roundyz
Paul Hartman wrote: - some kind of small linux emergency/recovery partition? equivalent to a liveCD maybe. Tiny core linux on the boot folder/part. Its all in a single small file. Or any other tips that apply to things which are difficult to change once the system is in use. I moved

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one from the terminal (be it Dolphin, Konqueror or whatever) the output generated is pretty much gigantic. It's stuff like

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/26/2010 10:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one from the terminal (be it Dolphin, Konqueror or whatever) the output

[gentoo-user] source repository could not be determined

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
I'm trying to re-emerge package kbarcode but it keeps complaing: that the source repository could not be determined emerge -pv kbarcode These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] app-text/kbarcode-2.0.7 USE=-debug% -doc -xinerama%

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/26/2010 10:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one from the

Re: [gentoo-user] source repository could not be determined

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:12:18 Joseph wrote: I'm trying to re-emerge package kbarcode but it keeps complaing: that the source repository could not be determined emerge -pv kbarcode These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:08:58 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/26/2010 10:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug messages on stderr? When I start one

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Then tap into the fifo with a perl script that is written to be able to sort and write the syslog output according to various regex that may be part of startup cmd or fed in later during the running script. I don't know rsyslog at all (I use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
problem on my end. Can you confirm that this happens on your system too? Happens here too. My error file is 38M -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I wanted to make sure first that this isn't some sort of configuration Me++ -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/26/2010 11:16 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/26/2010 10:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is it normal that every KDE (4.4.0) application is generating an awful lot of debug

Re: [gentoo-user] source repository could not be determined

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
On 02/26/10 23:22, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 26 February 2010 23:12:18 Joseph wrote: I'm trying to re-emerge package kbarcode but it keeps complaing: that the source repository could not be determined emerge -pv kbarcode These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4 applications are spamming stderr to death

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: problem on my end. Can you confirm that this happens on your system too? Happens here too. My error file is 38M -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I wanted to make sure first that this isn't some

Re: [gentoo-user] source repository could not be determined

2010-02-26 Thread Xavier Parizet
Le 26/02/2010 23:33, Joseph a écrit : On 02/26/10 23:22, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 26 February 2010 23:12:18 Joseph wrote: I'm trying to re-emerge package kbarcode but it keeps complaing: that the source repository could not be determined emerge -pv kbarcode These are the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 26 February 2010 23:44:03 Harry Putnam wrote: Where I'm weak is the part where the custom script checks if the daemon is running, before the script itself starts. That part would need to be something pretty fool proof... maybe just grep ps output for the daemon? Maybe I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't install things left or right to try out either, so typically upgrades are all I need to do. You should still run

Re: [gentoo-user] When copying an os to new disk

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:00:22 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: If $old_dir is the root partition, I would bin-mount it first to somewhere else, so other directories mounted to it (especially/dev, /proc and /sys) are not copied: mount -o bind / /mnt old_dir=/mnt Or use the --one-file-system option

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] attach a perl script to daemon services

2010-02-26 Thread Michael Higgins
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:00:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Where I'm weak is the part where the custom script checks if the daemon is running, before the script itself starts. That part would need to be something pretty fool proof... maybe just grep ps output for the

[gentoo-user] FreeNX password vs. ssh-key

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
I'm installing Freenx and it will not install unless I enable in sshd_conf UsePAM yes (password authentication) What is the use use of ssh-key if I have to enable PAM? -- Joseph

[gentoo-user] Who believes in cylinders?

2010-02-26 Thread walt
There's been some talk here recently about partitions versus cylinder boundaries, and when or even if they need to line up properly. I'm confused. For many years now I've ignored cylinders completely because I've read that modern disks are addressed by sector number only, and disks don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] Who believes in cylinders?

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 27 Februar 2010, walt wrote: There's been some talk here recently about partitions versus cylinder boundaries, and when or even if they need to line up properly. I'm confused. For many years now I've ignored cylinders completely because I've read that modern disks are addressed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't install things left or right to try out either, so

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 26 February 2010 18:47:40 Alex Schuster wrote: What's a suitable substitute? Whatever you like. Just edit the MERGETOOL definition in /etc/cfg- update.conf: # +--+ # | MERGETOOL \ # ++--- + # |The

[gentoo-user] Re: FreeNX password vs. ssh-key

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/27/2010 01:52 AM, Joseph wrote: I'm installing Freenx and it will not install unless I enable in sshd_conf UsePAM yes (password authentication) What is the use use of ssh-key if I have to enable PAM? FreeNX does not support SSH keys. It only uses one for its control user. For an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FreeNX password vs. ssh-key

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
On 02/27/10 03:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/27/2010 01:52 AM, Joseph wrote: I'm installing Freenx and it will not install unless I enable in sshd_conf UsePAM yes (password authentication) What is the use use of ssh-key if I have to enable PAM? FreeNX does not support SSH keys. It only

Re: [gentoo-user] Who believes in cylinders?

2010-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:09 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The recent thread about the new disks with 1024-byte sectors has me even more confused. hehe Very sorry. ;-) IIUC the new disks *do* care (at least) about where a partition begins relative to it's own 1024-byte hardware

[gentoo-user] Re: FreeNX password vs. ssh-key

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/27/2010 03:30 AM, Joseph wrote: On 02/27/10 03:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/27/2010 01:52 AM, Joseph wrote: I'm installing Freenx and it will not install unless I enable in sshd_conf UsePAM yes (password authentication) What is the use use of ssh-key if I have to enable PAM?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't install things

Re: [gentoo-user] Who believes in cylinders?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:09 PM, walt wrote: Is there really any need for the cylinder these days? No, not as I understand it. There may be some bits of software that suggest they can use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FreeNX password vs. ssh-key

2010-02-26 Thread Joseph
On 02/27/10 04:13, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/27/2010 03:30 AM, Joseph wrote: On 02/27/10 03:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 02/27/2010 01:52 AM, Joseph wrote: I'm installing Freenx and it will not install unless I enable in sshd_conf UsePAM yes (password authentication) What is the use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: - Original Message From: Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge

[gentoo-user] Showing installed packages that aren't in portage tree(s)

2010-02-26 Thread Mark David Dumlao
I used to think that eix did that. After eixing back and forth for some non-existent app-office/{kugar,koshell,kexi} (wouldn't show up on my eixes) that was holding back my --depcleans of kdelibs:3.5 and koffice-{libs,data}:3.5, then doubling back on the manual page, I discovered it didn't :D Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 02/27/2010 04:15 AM, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Showing installed packages that aren't in portage tree(s)

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: I used to think that eix did that. After eixing back and forth for some non-existent app-office/{kugar,koshell,kexi} (wouldn't show up on my eixes) that was holding back my --depcleans of kdelibs:3.5 and koffice-{libs,data}:3.5,

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage GUI interfaces...

2010-02-26 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I am interested in finding a GUI interface for working with portage, preferably for KDE4. Namely b/c I am getting a little tired of having konsole windows open and not being able to keep track of where I am in the emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/27/2010 04:15 AM, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com - Original Message From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: - Original Message From: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com - Original Message From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:34:18 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Showing installed packages that aren't in portage tree(s)

2010-02-26 Thread Mark David Dumlao
Just what I needed. Thanks! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: I used to think that eix did that. After eixing back and forth for some non-existent app-office/{kugar,koshell,kexi} (wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com On 02/27/2010 04:15 AM, BRM wrote: From: Neil BothwickTo: (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't install things left or right

Re: [gentoo-user] Showing installed packages that aren't in portage tree(s)

2010-02-26 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Just what I needed. Thanks! Let me also add that the output has changed. I tried to clean up some package.* files a while back and it turned into a mess. Before you change a file, make a backup just in case. It seems

[gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around?

2010-02-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/27/2010 07:21 AM, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com On 02/27/2010 04:15 AM, BRM wrote: From: Neil BothwickTo: (PST), BRM wrote: Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run emerge --depclean, but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't

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