Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday, 20 October 2017 16:44:30 BST Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> Is there something else on your system that checks for new mail, like a
> notifier pop-up or an icon in your DE?  If so, it is possible that this
> makes the mail appear "old" to POP, and that claws is interested (maybe
> by default) only in new mail.

My ISP doesn't allow emails to remain on their server after being read. You 
could say that my fetching of emails is a transfer operation, not a copy.

Grant asked about a trace of KMail's conversation with the server. I found a 
Log Activities plugin and activated it, but I can't find a log file. I 
didn't restart the program, though, so I'll try again when more emails have 
arrived in the ISP's queue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday, 20 October 2017 15:29:28 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-10-20, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
> > I don't think that can be it, because there's no sign of authentication
> > failure in the log. This is the whole log of an attempt to fetch mail:
> > 
> > [09:55:57] * message: Account 'Internet Incoming': Connecting to POP3
> > server: mail.zen.co.uk:995...
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK smarthost03a, Zen Internet POP3 Server Ready
> > [09:55:57] POP3> USER @zen.co.uk
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Please enter your pass, with the PASS command.
> > [09:55:57] POP3> PASS 
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Logged in.
> > [09:55:57] POP3> STAT
> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK 0 0
> > [09:55:58] POP3> QUIT
> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK Goodbye. See you again sometime :)
> 
> In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail.
> 
> What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail?

Let's start again.

I waited until this morning, used webmail to check that the ISP had emails 
for me (20 in fact) and tried Get Mail in claws again.

After doing so, claws.log now shows one conversation, exactly the same as 
above. So webmail shows 20 emails for me and the claws conversation shows 
none.

That is my problem: I must have something wrong in my claws setup. Sorry 
about my vagueness before.

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Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2017-10-20 15:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail.
> 
> Then it's wrong, or else something in my config is wrong.
> 
> > What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail?
> 
> The same as KMail does when I run it just afterwards.

I was a claws user once but now it's a distant memory.

Is there something else on your system that checks for new mail, like a
notifier pop-up or an icon in your DE?  If so, it is possible that this
makes the mail appear "old" to POP, and that claws is interested (maybe
by default) only in new mail.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Grant Edwards]

On 2017-10-20, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
> On Friday, 20 October 2017 15:29:28 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2017-10-20, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
>> > I don't think that can be it, because there's no sign of authentication
>> > failure in the log. This is the whole log of an attempt to fetch mail:
>> > 
>> > [09:55:57] * message: Account 'Internet Incoming': Connecting to POP3
>> > server: mail.zen.co.uk:995...
>> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK smarthost03a, Zen Internet POP3 Server Ready
>> > [09:55:57] POP3> USER @zen.co.uk
>> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Please enter your pass, with the PASS command.
>> > [09:55:57] POP3> PASS 
>> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Logged in.
>> > [09:55:57] POP3> STAT
>> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK 0 0
>> > [09:55:58] POP3> QUIT
>> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK Goodbye. See you again sometime :)
>> 
>> In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail.
>
> Then it's wrong, or else something in my config is wrong.
>
>> What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail?
>
> The same as KMail does when I run it just afterwards.

And what is that?

What does the POP3 connection trace look like for KMail?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday, 20 October 2017 15:29:28 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-10-20, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
> > I don't think that can be it, because there's no sign of authentication
> > failure in the log. This is the whole log of an attempt to fetch mail:
> > 
> > [09:55:57] * message: Account 'Internet Incoming': Connecting to POP3
> > server: mail.zen.co.uk:995...
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK smarthost03a, Zen Internet POP3 Server Ready
> > [09:55:57] POP3> USER @zen.co.uk
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Please enter your pass, with the PASS command.
> > [09:55:57] POP3> PASS 
> > [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Logged in.
> > [09:55:57] POP3> STAT
> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK 0 0
> > [09:55:58] POP3> QUIT
> > [09:55:58] POP3< +OK Goodbye. See you again sometime :)
> 
> In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail.

Then it's wrong, or else something in my config is wrong.

> What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail?

The same as KMail does when I run it just afterwards.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

[Grant Edwards]

On 2017-10-20, Peter Humphrey  wrote:

> I don't think that can be it, because there's no sign of authentication 
> failure in the log. This is the whole log of an attempt to fetch mail:
>
> [09:55:57] * message: Account 'Internet Incoming': Connecting to POP3 
> server: mail.zen.co.uk:995...
> [09:55:57] POP3< +OK smarthost03a, Zen Internet POP3 Server Ready
> [09:55:57] POP3> USER @zen.co.uk
> [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Please enter your pass, with the PASS command.
> [09:55:57] POP3> PASS 
> [09:55:57] POP3< +OK Logged in.
> [09:55:57] POP3> STAT
> [09:55:58] POP3< +OK 0 0
> [09:55:58] POP3> QUIT
> [09:55:58] POP3< +OK Goodbye. See you again sometime :)

In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail.

What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail?

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