Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Monday 10 May 2010 17:01:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, claude angéloz claude.ange...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? I'm using GPT partitions and with the grub-0.97-r9 in Gentoo it has patches to boot from GPT disks. I just did normal grub install as usual and everything seems to work. I'm not using the partition label, though, but only root (hd0,0) Interesting. Does grub install its bootloader into the MBR, or in a GPT boot partition? I am not at all familiar with this new way of booting systems. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 10 May 2010 17:01:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, claude angéloz claude.ange...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? I'm using GPT partitions and with the grub-0.97-r9 in Gentoo it has patches to boot from GPT disks. I just did normal grub install as usual and everything seems to work. I'm not using the partition label, though, but only root (hd0,0) Interesting. Does grub install its bootloader into the MBR, or in a GPT boot partition? I am not at all familiar with this new way of booting systems. I think basically GPT is a replacement for MBR, everything basically works the same way otherwise. GPT has features like redunancy, removes limits of MBR (no primary/logical designation anymore, no 2TB limit, etc). I think it has a somewhat MBR-compatible layout in the first sector so non-GPT-aware things can still partially recognize it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 21:47:41 Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 10 May 2010 17:01:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, claude angéloz claude.ange...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? I'm using GPT partitions and with the grub-0.97-r9 in Gentoo it has patches to boot from GPT disks. I just did normal grub install as usual and everything seems to work. I'm not using the partition label, though, but only root (hd0,0) Interesting. Does grub install its bootloader into the MBR, or in a GPT boot partition? I am not at all familiar with this new way of booting systems. I think basically GPT is a replacement for MBR, everything basically works the same way otherwise. GPT has features like redunancy, removes limits of MBR (no primary/logical designation anymore, no 2TB limit, etc). I think it has a somewhat MBR-compatible layout in the first sector so non-GPT-aware things can still partially recognize it. Am I right to assume that your 1st partition on the 1st disk is the GPT boot partition and therefore its 1st sector is what would on a conventional disk be the MBR? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 12 May 2010 21:47:41 Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 10 May 2010 17:01:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, claude angéloz claude.ange...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? I'm using GPT partitions and with the grub-0.97-r9 in Gentoo it has patches to boot from GPT disks. I just did normal grub install as usual and everything seems to work. I'm not using the partition label, though, but only root (hd0,0) Interesting. Does grub install its bootloader into the MBR, or in a GPT boot partition? I am not at all familiar with this new way of booting systems. I think basically GPT is a replacement for MBR, everything basically works the same way otherwise. GPT has features like redunancy, removes limits of MBR (no primary/logical designation anymore, no 2TB limit, etc). I think it has a somewhat MBR-compatible layout in the first sector so non-GPT-aware things can still partially recognize it. Am I right to assume that your 1st partition on the 1st disk is the GPT boot partition and therefore its 1st sector is what would on a conventional disk be the MBR? From the standpoint of the fake MBR table, I think you are correct. To non-GPT-aware utils it'll look like GPT is a partition of some type but when using GPT-compatible things that is completely transparent. Wikipedia has a good description of how it all works under the hood, check out the LBA-0 section of the article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table From a normal user's perspective, creating the partitions and installing grub was no different than with MBR, only I told parted to great GPT instead of MBR partition table on my new disks. Enabled EFI in kernel, used Gentoo's version of grub which has the GPT patches included, and everything just worked. Maybe I was lucky? :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, claude angéloz claude.ange...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? I'm using GPT partitions and with the grub-0.97-r9 in Gentoo it has patches to boot from GPT disks. I just did normal grub install as usual and everything seems to work. I'm not using the partition label, though, but only root (hd0,0)
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label
On Saturday 08 May 2010 15:16:36 claude angéloz wrote: Hello, I installed a gentoo on a very recent system (efi support) . AT the reception of the laptop it was a disk label msdos, with a boot partition w** installer ... I changed that against a GPt disk label. I can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot. I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools - install the grub2 masked package and grub-install. - a special partion bios_grub as 1st bootable partition. but actually no succesful... but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as flag... I found some tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a macintel system, not a normal pc with a disk labeled gpt and an efi support. I know that it is not required an efi partiton to boot the os with pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ? If anybody has an other idea. Or I must abandon the gpt disk label ? Is there an equivalent refitr in OS x86 ? Thanks Best regards Claude I do not have either an efi machine or a gpt disk to know for sure, but perhaps the following two applications may be of help in creating a EFI binary: * sys-boot/mbr-gpt Available versions: ~ 0.0.1 ~x86 ~amd64 Homepage:http://aybabtu.com/mbr-gpt/ Description: An MBR that can handle BIOS-based boot on GPT. * sys-boot/gnu-efi Available versions: * 3.0a-r1 ia64 x86 ~ 3.0e ~ia64 ~x86 ~amd64 ~ 3.0g ~amd64 ia64 ~x86 ~ 3.0i ~amd64 ~ia64 ~x86 Homepage:http://developer.intel.com/technology/efi Description: Library for build EFI Applications Instructions for installing, booting using EFI systems are here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook- ia64.xml?style=printablepart=1chap=2 HTH -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
