Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 18:08:33 Neil Bothwick wrote: Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. I'd forgotten about lshw - thanks for the reminder. At the risk of a thread hijack, what should I do about this, which is shown for both CPU's: *-cache:2 DISABLED Does that mean the

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H Alan McKinnon έγραψε: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo.

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread kashani
Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread cypherstrong
another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:47:10 kashani, vous avez écrit : Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Sometime in the last

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for intel's itanium cpus... ia64 is not compatible with x86... if

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread cypherstrong
Of course :) the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd ... or with cpuinfo and good knowledge of flags Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:45:16 Stratos Psomadakis, vous avez écrit : O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
+++ Chris Brennan [gentoo-user] [Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 11:36:47AM -0500]: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id :

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/5/08, Andrew MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do identify themselves, but they may not indicate 64 vs. 32 bit. Something one can always do is cat /proc/cpuinfo and then check the family and model at http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags . If it indicates 64-bit profile and Cflags for

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/5/08, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. Like I said, take the family and

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Stratos Psomadakis wrote: O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, cypherstrong wrote: Of course :) the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd That might suit someone who's sitting with a new and unknown box on the desk in front of them. I usually have to discover this for machines that are in some unknown location and to

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: | O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: | another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips | if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version | | if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) | | no need

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. -- Neil Bothwick If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. Aaaahhh. That has to be the most useful app

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. HT is

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
well said ... Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first