Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Dale 
Dale wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>>
>> to wetten your appetite...;)
>> Here is an exerpt of the wikepedia page for waterfox:
>>
>> Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by:
>> Disabling Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
>> Disabling Web Runtime
>> Removing Adobe DRM
>> Removing Pocket
>> Removing Telemetry
>> Removing data collection
>> Removing startup profiling
>> Allowing running of all 64-bit NPAPI plugins
>> Allowing running of unsigned extensions
>> Removing of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
>> Addition of Duplicate Tab option
>> Addition of locale selector in about:preferences > General
>> Defaulting to Ecosia as the search engine instead of Google or Yahoo![7]
>> Cookie prompt from version 56.0 (beta)[8]
>>
>> (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Meino
>>
> I played with it for a bit but I can't get the old or new tab utility
> addon to work.  I tried the old one but it fails to start with some
> error I can't recall.  The new tab utility addon only works with the
> newer Firefox versions. 
>
> It seems I can win no matter what I try.  :/
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


That last bit should read can NOT win.  Brain didn't quite make it all
the way to keyboard.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Dale 
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 03/30 10:36, Dale wrote:
>> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>> On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
 tu...@posteo.de wrote:

> Hi,
>  
>  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
>  plugin system.
>  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
>  affect seurity) ...
>
>  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
>
>  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
>
>  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
>
>  Cheers!
>  Meino
>
 I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
 tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
 command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
 overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
 sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 

 Thanks for the info. 

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

>>> Hi Dale,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
>>> that to /usr/local/., made a symlink from /usr/local/bin/waterfox to
>>> the executable in that directory and: DONE :)
>>>
>>> Ok...I did an entry inti menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)
>>>
>>> Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
>>> "polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.
>>>
>>> It is not the original genuine sacred of Gentoo, though. ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Meino
>>>
>> Cool.  I was peeking into overlays and was having no luck at all.  I
>> thought I found it twice but it seems they were removed or something. 
>> There was other stuff in the overlays but not Waterfox. 
>>
>> I'll go download it and give it a whirl.  Heck, if it isn't so much of a
>> memory hog, that will be a bonus.  LOL 
>>
>> Thanks much. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
>> P. S. May reply again if it works really well, for the benefit of others
>> who may want to give it a try.  ;-) 
>>
> Hi Dale,
>
>
> to wetten your appetite...;)
> Here is an exerpt of the wikepedia page for waterfox:
>
> Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by:
> Disabling Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
> Disabling Web Runtime
> Removing Adobe DRM
> Removing Pocket
> Removing Telemetry
> Removing data collection
> Removing startup profiling
> Allowing running of all 64-bit NPAPI plugins
> Allowing running of unsigned extensions
> Removing of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
> Addition of Duplicate Tab option
> Addition of locale selector in about:preferences > General
> Defaulting to Ecosia as the search engine instead of Google or Yahoo![7]
> Cookie prompt from version 56.0 (beta)[8]
>
> (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox)
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>

I played with it for a bit but I can't get the old or new tab utility
addon to work.  I tried the old one but it fails to start with some
error I can't recall.  The new tab utility addon only works with the
newer Firefox versions. 

It seems I can win no matter what I try.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread taii...@gmx.com 
I am sticking with ice-cat aka firefox 52 stable long term support but I
do not know what I shall do when the long terms term is up.maybe
switch to waterfox and hope their dev team is skilled enough to make a
quality product (of course anyone with the skills should assist)

Mozilla is really bad these days they have became almost like microsoft
making changes that no one wants and stealthily forcing
advertising/tracking on people - there really needs to be a professional
fork similar to the devuan/debian split over the evil SystemD. (How come
almost every distro adapted it suddenly overnight? entirely not
suspicious at all)

Damn everything good these days is declared "legacy" and thrown away,
soon a modern laptop won't have any ports at all and will be entirely
wireless like the macbook wheel parody.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread tuxic 
On 03/30 10:36, Dale wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
> >> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>  
> >>>  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
> >>>  plugin system.
> >>>  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
> >>>  affect seurity) ...
> >>>
> >>>  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
> >>>
> >>>  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
> >>>
> >>>  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
> >>>
> >>>  Cheers!
> >>>  Meino
> >>>
> >> I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
> >> tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
> >> command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
> >> overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
> >> sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info. 
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)  :-) 
> >>
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> > I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
> > that to /usr/local/., made a symlink from /usr/local/bin/waterfox to
> > the executable in that directory and: DONE :)
> >
> > Ok...I did an entry inti menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)
> >
> > Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
> > "polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.
> >
> > It is not the original genuine sacred of Gentoo, though. ;)
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Meino
> >
> 
> Cool.  I was peeking into overlays and was having no luck at all.  I
> thought I found it twice but it seems they were removed or something. 
> There was other stuff in the overlays but not Waterfox. 
> 
> I'll go download it and give it a whirl.  Heck, if it isn't so much of a
> memory hog, that will be a bonus.  LOL 
> 
> Thanks much. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> P. S. May reply again if it works really well, for the benefit of others
> who may want to give it a try.  ;-) 
> 

Hi Dale,


to wetten your appetite...;)
Here is an exerpt of the wikepedia page for waterfox:

Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by:
Disabling Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
Disabling Web Runtime
Removing Adobe DRM
Removing Pocket
Removing Telemetry
Removing data collection
Removing startup profiling
Allowing running of all 64-bit NPAPI plugins
Allowing running of unsigned extensions
Removing of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
Addition of Duplicate Tab option
Addition of locale selector in about:preferences > General
Defaulting to Ecosia as the search engine instead of Google or Yahoo![7]
Cookie prompt from version 56.0 (beta)[8]

(see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox)

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread tuxic 
On 03/31 05:05, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
> > tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > > On 03/30 09:23, Dale wrote:
> > >> Adam Carter wrote:
> > >>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale  > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Howdy,
> > >>>
> > >>> I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks 
> > >>> addons
> > >>> that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab 
> > >>> utilities
> > >>> are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
> > >>> going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some 
> > >>> have
> > >>> alternatives but some don't.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
> > >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading
> > >>> until that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.
> > >>>
> > >> My biggest problem is that addons are broken on anything 57 and above. 
> > >> At least that seems to be the version that stops old addons from
> > >> working.  Would the latest release have a way for the old addons to
> > >> work?  If not, then it doesn't matter if it is 58, 59 or 60. 
> > >>
> > >> Basically, I'm trying to figure out if others are doing like I am and
> > >> keeping a older version of Firefox installed because of the addons no
> > >> longer working.  If someone has been able to find comparable addons to
> > >> the ones that no longer work on the newer Firefox versions, I'd like to
> > >> know that as well.  Right now, I'm sticking with older versions of
> > >> Firefox.  I don't like the security problems that may cause but it is
> > >> what it is. 
> > >>
> > >> Since I posted the message above, I've looked into Palemoon, Vivaldi,
> > >> Opera and dug around to see what else I can try.  So far, none of them
> > >> can do what pre 57 versions of Firefox can with the addons I use. 
> > >>
> > >> Just trying to get ideas and info on this mess. 
> > >>
> > >> Dale
> > >>
> > >> :-)  :-) 
> > > Hi,
> > >  
> > >  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
> > >  plugin system.
> > >  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
> > >  affect seurity) ...
> > >
> > >  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
> > >
> > >  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
> > >
> > >  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
> > >
> > >  Cheers!
> > >  Meino
> > >
> > 
> > I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
> > tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
> > command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
> > overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
> > sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 
> > 
> > Thanks for the info. 
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > :-)  :-) 
> > 
> 
> Hi Dale,
> 
> I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
> that to /usr/local/., made a symlink from /usr/local/bin/waterfox to
> the executable in that directory and: DONE :)
> 
> Ok...I did an entry inti menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)
> 
> Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
> "polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.
> 
> It is not the original genuine sacred of Gentoo, though. ;)
> 
> Cheers!
> Meino
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

(here is version of my post with less typos ;) )

Hi Dale,

I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
that to /usr/local/., made a symlink for /usr/local/bin/waterfox of
the executable in that directory and: DONE :)

Ok...I did an entry into menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)

Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
"polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.

It is not the original genuine sacred way of Gentoo, though. ;)

Cheers!
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread Dale 
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
>> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>>  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
>>>  plugin system.
>>>  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
>>>  affect seurity) ...
>>>
>>>  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
>>>
>>>  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
>>>
>>>  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
>>>
>>>  Cheers!
>>>  Meino
>>>
>> I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
>> tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
>> command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
>> overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
>> sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 
>>
>> Thanks for the info. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
> Hi Dale,
>
> I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
> that to /usr/local/., made a symlink from /usr/local/bin/waterfox to
> the executable in that directory and: DONE :)
>
> Ok...I did an entry inti menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)
>
> Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
> "polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.
>
> It is not the original genuine sacred of Gentoo, though. ;)
>
> Cheers!
> Meino
>

Cool.  I was peeking into overlays and was having no luck at all.  I
thought I found it twice but it seems they were removed or something. 
There was other stuff in the overlays but not Waterfox. 

I'll go download it and give it a whirl.  Heck, if it isn't so much of a
memory hog, that will be a bonus.  LOL 

Thanks much. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S. May reply again if it works really well, for the benefit of others
who may want to give it a try.  ;-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread tuxic 
On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 03/30 09:23, Dale wrote:
> >> Adam Carter wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Howdy,
> >>>
> >>> I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks addons
> >>> that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab utilities
> >>> are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
> >>> going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some have
> >>> alternatives but some don't.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
> >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading
> >>> until that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.
> >>>
> >> My biggest problem is that addons are broken on anything 57 and above. 
> >> At least that seems to be the version that stops old addons from
> >> working.  Would the latest release have a way for the old addons to
> >> work?  If not, then it doesn't matter if it is 58, 59 or 60. 
> >>
> >> Basically, I'm trying to figure out if others are doing like I am and
> >> keeping a older version of Firefox installed because of the addons no
> >> longer working.  If someone has been able to find comparable addons to
> >> the ones that no longer work on the newer Firefox versions, I'd like to
> >> know that as well.  Right now, I'm sticking with older versions of
> >> Firefox.  I don't like the security problems that may cause but it is
> >> what it is. 
> >>
> >> Since I posted the message above, I've looked into Palemoon, Vivaldi,
> >> Opera and dug around to see what else I can try.  So far, none of them
> >> can do what pre 57 versions of Firefox can with the addons I use. 
> >>
> >> Just trying to get ideas and info on this mess. 
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)  :-) 
> > Hi,
> >  
> >  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
> >  plugin system.
> >  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
> >  affect seurity) ...
> >
> >  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
> >
> >  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
> >
> >  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
> >
> >  Cheers!
> >  Meino
> >
> 
> I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
> tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
> command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
> overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
> sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 
> 
> Thanks for the info. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Hi Dale,

I downloaded the archive, unpacked it in a separate directory, moved
that to /usr/local/., made a symlink from /usr/local/bin/waterfox to
the executable in that directory and: DONE :)

Ok...I did an entry inti menu.xml of my openbox...manually ;)

Since waterfox is contained in a single directory, gentoo will not be
"polluted" and the removal/upgrade of waterfox is easy.

It is not the original genuine sacred of Gentoo, though. ;)

Cheers!
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread Dale 
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 03/30 09:23, Dale wrote:
>> Adam Carter wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks addons
>>> that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab utilities
>>> are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
>>> going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some have
>>> alternatives but some don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading
>>> until that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.
>>>
>> My biggest problem is that addons are broken on anything 57 and above. 
>> At least that seems to be the version that stops old addons from
>> working.  Would the latest release have a way for the old addons to
>> work?  If not, then it doesn't matter if it is 58, 59 or 60. 
>>
>> Basically, I'm trying to figure out if others are doing like I am and
>> keeping a older version of Firefox installed because of the addons no
>> longer working.  If someone has been able to find comparable addons to
>> the ones that no longer work on the newer Firefox versions, I'd like to
>> know that as well.  Right now, I'm sticking with older versions of
>> Firefox.  I don't like the security problems that may cause but it is
>> what it is. 
>>
>> Since I posted the message above, I've looked into Palemoon, Vivaldi,
>> Opera and dug around to see what else I can try.  So far, none of them
>> can do what pre 57 versions of Firefox can with the addons I use. 
>>
>> Just trying to get ideas and info on this mess. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Hi,
>  
>  I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
>  plugin system.
>  No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
>  affect seurity) ...
>
>  Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.
>
>  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
>
>  No advertising intended...I am only an user.
>
>  Cheers!
>  Meino
>

I ran up on a site where that was talked about.  It's not in the tree
tho.  How did you install it?  Is it just download and run it from
command line or a manual addition to the menu system?  Is there a
overlay with it in it?  While I like Firefox, the memory hog that it
sometimes is, I'm not opposed to switching to something else. 

Thanks for the info. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread tuxic 
On 03/30 09:23, Dale wrote:
> Adam Carter wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale  > > wrote:
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks addons
> > that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab utilities
> > are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
> > going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some have
> > alternatives but some don't.
> >
> >
> > The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading
> > until that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.
> >
> 
> My biggest problem is that addons are broken on anything 57 and above. 
> At least that seems to be the version that stops old addons from
> working.  Would the latest release have a way for the old addons to
> work?  If not, then it doesn't matter if it is 58, 59 or 60. 
> 
> Basically, I'm trying to figure out if others are doing like I am and
> keeping a older version of Firefox installed because of the addons no
> longer working.  If someone has been able to find comparable addons to
> the ones that no longer work on the newer Firefox versions, I'd like to
> know that as well.  Right now, I'm sticking with older versions of
> Firefox.  I don't like the security problems that may cause but it is
> what it is. 
> 
> Since I posted the message above, I've looked into Palemoon, Vivaldi,
> Opera and dug around to see what else I can try.  So far, none of them
> can do what pre 57 versions of Firefox can with the addons I use. 
> 
> Just trying to get ideas and info on this mess. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Hi,
 
 I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
 plugin system.
 No need to stay to older version (keeping older bugs, which may
 affect seurity) ...

 Waterfox is opensourced and it has a smaller memory footprint.

 https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/

 No advertising intended...I am only an user.

 Cheers!
 Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread Dale 
Adam Carter wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale  > wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks addons
> that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab utilities
> are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
> going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some have
> alternatives but some don't.
>
>
> The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading
> until that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.
>

My biggest problem is that addons are broken on anything 57 and above. 
At least that seems to be the version that stops old addons from
working.  Would the latest release have a way for the old addons to
work?  If not, then it doesn't matter if it is 58, 59 or 60. 

Basically, I'm trying to figure out if others are doing like I am and
keeping a older version of Firefox installed because of the addons no
longer working.  If someone has been able to find comparable addons to
the ones that no longer work on the newer Firefox versions, I'd like to
know that as well.  Right now, I'm sticking with older versions of
Firefox.  I don't like the security problems that may cause but it is
what it is. 

Since I posted the message above, I've looked into Palemoon, Vivaldi,
Opera and dug around to see what else I can try.  So far, none of them
can do what pre 57 versions of Firefox can with the addons I use. 

Just trying to get ideas and info on this mess. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-30 Thread Adam Carter 
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Dale  wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I been holding off on upgrading Firefox.  Basically, it breaks addons
> that I just can't go without.  Tab groups and some other tab utilities
> are among them.  I recently updated temporarily to see just what was
> going to be broken and what I could do to adjust.  It seems some have
> alternatives but some don't.
>

The firefox ebuilds are out of date at the moment (
https://bugs.gentoo.org/650472 ) so its probably not worth upgrading until
that issue is fixed, unless you use the mozilla overlay.