Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:16, Mark Knecht wrote: On 7/31/05, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:52, Mark Knecht wrote: On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? Is the NFS filesystem mounted read-only? -- No Glenn, it's mounted read/write and I tested that I Could write it from the machine running Unison. I tried running Unison on a directory containing a single CD. It hung up on that also. After the hang up the machine is really unhappy rebooting. It gives me messages about being unable to unmoust the NFS filesystems. Thanks, Mark thanks, Mark Ok just a thought :). Last time I had a dodgy program Zac Medico suggested I run strace on it, so in your case from a command prompt... # strace unison dir1 dir2 Does using a different terminal program make any difference? maybee using screen?. Not an expert here you understand just trying to fit peices in the puzzle. -- Life, loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it. -- Marvin the paranoid android pgpNekwLGB12H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:52:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? You don't use NFS with Unison, give it hostnames and it will copy ther files with SSH. e.g. unison this box:/home/somedir ssh://otherbox/home/somedir -- Neil Bothwick I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. pgpDqEsGX3wML.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On 8/1/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:52:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? You don't use NFS with Unison, give it hostnames and it will copy ther files with SSH. e.g. unison this box:/home/somedir ssh://otherbox/home/somedir Neil, Thanks. This is helping me get to the root cause. It appears that the real problem has something to do with non-standard characters for American English. The first directory that was failing was a Spanish Edition of a CD. When I went and looked at it there were three songs that used different sorts of accent character over vowels. I changed these characters on both machines and then unison got further, so I changed a second CD and it got further yet. Unfortunately I've been at this about an hour and am just finishing up changing the A's so I'd like to try and understand what the issue here really is ad find a fix that doesn't require making any changes. The failure in unison is a dialog box with this message: Uncaught exception Glib.convert.error(1, Invalid byte sequence in conversion input) This failure is from the name Angelique Kidjo where a forward accent appears over the first 'e' in Angelique. When I remove this unison goes further but fails for more stuff like this. I use a program called Aqualung (not in portage unfortunately) to play these directories and it doesn't have any trouble with these non-standard accent characters so why does unison? One last thing. I note that when I change these characters on the local machine that it takes one backspace in a terminal to erase the character, while on the remote machine (logged in through ssh like unison would be) it takes two backspaces to change the character. Does this mean anything to you? It's beyond me. Note that locales are probably not identical between the two machines. Again, thanks to you and the other folks who responded. At least I could probably get past this problem with a couple of days of work but I'm hoping for a more internationalized solution. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On 8/1/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:52:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? You don't use NFS with Unison, give it hostnames and it will copy ther files with SSH. e.g. unison this box:/home/somedir ssh://otherbox/home/somedir Neil, Thanks. This is helping me get to the root cause. It appears that the real problem has something to do with non-standard characters for American English. Maybe the problem is only with the GUI of Unison? I tried ssh'ing into my machine and running that way since it doesn't use the GUI and keeps a record of what's going on in the terminal. This is not failing for any of the non-standard American english characters. Possibly time for a bug report? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:43:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: One possibly tricky part about this will be that in some cases we have found bad rips and have reripped files to fix that. In this case there is going to be a newer file in each either location with the same name but with a new size date. Will Unison give me an option to just accept the newer one in each location and remove or backup the older one automatically? Unison is particularly good at handling this sort of situation. It keeps a log of the file dates each time you sync and asks for manual intervention when a file have been updated on both sides since the last sync. -- Neil Bothwick Did you know that eskimos have 17 different words for linguist? pgpDyCoWNL1Pe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On 7/31/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:43:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: One possibly tricky part about this will be that in some cases we have found bad rips and have reripped files to fix that. In this case there is going to be a newer file in each either location with the same name but with a new size date. Will Unison give me an option to just accept the newer one in each location and remove or backup the older one automatically? Unison is particularly good at handling this sort of situation. It keeps a log of the file dates each time you sync and asks for manual intervention when a file have been updated on both sides since the last sync. Hi Neil, OK, so I tried Unison and, twice, it just gets stuck at the same file. I'm running it like this: unison /home/mark/music /mnt/Musiclib The gui comes up and the program gets started but then it just hangs. There's no obvious network activity or local disk activity. If I let the program sit long enough for the screensaver to kick in then when I unlock the screen the program is just a grey box. So far I cannot even kill the thing. kill -9 pid or killall -9 unison act like they killed it but ps aux says the process is still there. It's even there if I try killing the gui in Gnome. The gui goes away but the process persists. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I cannot even kill the thing. kill -9 pid or killall -9 unison act like they killed it but ps aux says the process is still there. It's even there if I try killing the gui in Gnome. The gui goes away but the process persists. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Mark Even worse, I cannot even reboot the machine after this event. I have to hit the reset button. Bummer. Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? So far I haven't found a log file, most probably because the program crashes before it can do anything. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:52, Mark Knecht wrote: On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? Is the NFS filesystem mounted read-only? -- Speak the truth. That is always much easier, and is often the most powerful argument. -- Bene Gesserit Axiom pgp3FMykjmfLN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hints for using Unison?
On 7/31/05, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:52, Mark Knecht wrote: On 7/31/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly this problem is really an NFS issue or a 1394 issue? Neither of these are overly tested, at least on my system under Gentoo. I ran the same system with FC2 for quite awhile. 1394 worked fine as far as I could tell, but I never used NFS much and I only jsut set up NFS today to try out Unison so maybe it's one of those systems causing the problem? Is the NFS filesystem mounted read-only? -- No Glenn, it's mounted read/write and I tested that I Could write it from the machine running Unison. I tried running Unison on a directory containing a single CD. It hung up on that also. After the hang up the machine is really unhappy rebooting. It gives me messages about being unable to unmoust the NFS filesystems. Thanks, Mark thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
