Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 11:58:52 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:

--->8

> Q 2:  What other package do I need installed to give me the navigation
> symbols? I've attached a section of the window to show what I mean.

These have appeared now. I don't know precisely what I did to achieve that, 
but I have installed a few versions over the last few days.

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Regards,
Peter.

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday, 26 January 2018 13:20:04 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:43:31AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
> 
> > This is with gcc 4.9.4, and I get the same with gcc 6.4.0. I've only
> > just noticed that about -fPIC; haven't all those problems been fixed
> > by now?
> 
>   This may or may not be relavant.  I build Pale Moon manually for my
> home machines, using the Mozilla Firefox process.  64-bit builds worked
> fine with GCC-6.4.0 on profile 13.0.  Anything built with GCC-6.x under
> profile 17.0 segfaults in 10-15 seconds after launching Pale Moon.  A
> custom-built GCC-5.4.0 builds a stable Pale Moon.

I haven't yet managed to compile 27.7.1 at all with either GCC 6.4.0 or 
4.9.4, using the palemoon overlay via layman, on profile default/linux/
amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma. I get the loader errors I quoted on Wednesday.

I wonder whether I should try the 17.1 profile...

>   I'm currently doing a test build with GCC-6.4.0 on my 32-bit desktop,
> having just finished the migration to 17.0.  Current ICEWM 1.4.2 (and
> 1.4.0) crashes out of X to a text console when I click on the menu bar
> at the bottom.  I've dropped back to 1.3.12-r1 ...and copied the ebuild
> over to a local overlay.  I'm not liking profile 17.0 far.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:43:31AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
> 
> This is with gcc 4.9.4, and I get the same with gcc 6.4.0. I've only
> just noticed that about -fPIC; haven't all those problems been fixed
> by now?

  This may or may not be relavant.  I build Pale Moon manually for my
home machines, using the Mozilla Firefox process.  64-bit builds worked
fine with GCC-6.4.0 on profile 13.0.  Anything built with GCC-6.x under
profile 17.0 segfaults in 10-15 seconds after launching Pale Moon.  A
custom-built GCC-5.4.0 builds a stable Pale Moon.

  I'm currently doing a test build with GCC-6.4.0 on my 32-bit desktop,
having just finished the migration to 17.0.  Current ICEWM 1.4.2 (and
1.4.0) crashes out of X to a text console when I click on the menu bar
at the bottom.  I've dropped back to 1.3.12-r1 ...and copied the ebuild
over to a local overlay.  I'm not liking profile 17.0 far.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:23:56 GMT Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:30 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:08:12 GMT Arve Barsnes wrote:
> > > Maybe check command line output?
> > 
> > I get eight of these: "undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP".
> > The full list is attached.
> > 
> > (pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-
> > previous' for stock: Unable to load image-loading module:
> > /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so:
> > /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP
> 
> Your libxml2 appears broken after some ICU update and no automatic
> rebuild of libxml2 or something (maybe something failed in the rebuilds
> earlier in the queue from what portage figured has to get rebuilt after
> icu upgrade). Rebuild libxml2 and that issue probably goes away.

I don't think that's it:

$ genlop libxml2
 * dev-libs/libxml2
[...]
 Wed Dec 13 12:07:18 2017 >>> dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.4-r3
 Sun Dec 17 10:39:28 2017 >>> dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.6
 Thu Jan  4 11:21:42 2018 >>> dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.6
 Thu Jan 18 10:41:33 2018 >>> dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.7
 Tue Jan 23 15:11:28 2018 >>> dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.7

To confirm that, I've just repeated the exercise after remerging libxml2 
again, and I got the same result.

This is the official build, the one that Walter pointed me to.

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Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Mart Raudsepp]

On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:30 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:08:12 GMT Arve Barsnes wrote:
> 
> > Maybe check command line output?
> 
> I get eight of these: "undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP".
> The full 
> list is attached.

> (pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-
> previous' for stock: Unable to load image-loading module:
> /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so:
> /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

Your libxml2 appears broken after some ICU update and no automatic
rebuild of libxml2 or something (maybe something failed in the rebuilds
earlier in the queue from what portage figured has to get rebuilt after
icu upgrade). Rebuild libxml2 and that issue probably goes away.

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:40:18 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:43:31AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
> 
> > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:27:21 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, I do have them both installed already.
> > 
> > > Is this the official Pale Moon, or an unofficial build?
> > 
> > It's www-client/palemoon-bin-27.7.1::palemoon. I don't know whether
> > that's "official", because when I "layman -a palemoon" I'm told it's
> > not an official overlay. Different officialdoms, I suppose.
> 
> Disclosure... I'm a volunteer for the Pale Moon project (not an official
> spokesman).

Yes, I'd gathered that. Kudos to you :)

> I do a contributed build for Pentium3-class machines.  My idea of
> "official" is obviously "from the Pale Moon website".  Can you do a quick-
> n-dirty install from the official tarball to check if the icon problem
> happens with the official Pale Moon?  This test will install into $HOME/pm
> 
> 1) Go to http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/ and download the
> appropriate (32 or 64 bit) tarball for your system.
> 
> 2) killall palemoon  # Ignore error message if Pale Moon not running.
> 
> 3) rm -rf $HOME/pm && mkdir $HOME/pm  # Start from a known state
> 
> 4) tar -C $HOME/pm -xvjf   # Extract tarball
> 
> 5) $HOME/pm/palemoon/palemoon  # Launch Pale Moon
> 
>   Note; this install is self-contained.  It does not splatter stuff all
> over various library directories.  Does the icon problem still happen
> with the official tarball?

'Fraid so, and I still get those undefined-symbol errors I mentioned.

> > This is with gcc 4.9.4, and I get the same with gcc 6.4.0.
> 
> 6.3.0 builds Pale Moon OK on profile 13.  I'll soon be doing the switch
> over to 17 on my 32-bit desktop.  You might be able to get things working
> with custom flags for the Pale Moon ebuild using package.env as per... 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env

Hmm. I'll have to put my thinking-cap on for that. Maybe tomorrow. This is 
what portage wants to do (I'm on profile 17.0):

[ebuild  N#] www-client/palemoon-27.7.1::palemoon  USE="alsa dbus 
devtools gtk2 official-branding optimize -debug -ffmpeg (-gtk3) -jemalloc -
necko-wifi -pulseaudio -shared-js -system-bzip2 -system-libevent -system-
libvpx -system-libwebp -system-sqlite -system-zlib -threads -valgrind -
webrtc" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse sse2" 0 KiB

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Regards,
Peter.

[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:43:31AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:27:21 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> 
> Yes, I do have them both installed already.
> 
> > Is this the official Pale Moon, or an unofficial build?
> 
> It's www-client/palemoon-bin-27.7.1::palemoon. I don't know whether
> that's "official", because when I "layman -a palemoon" I'm told it's
> not an official overlay. Different officialdoms, I suppose.

  Disclosure... I'm a volunteer for the Pale Moon project (not an
official spokesman).  I do a contributed build for Pentium3-class
machines.  My idea of "official" is obviously "from the Pale Moon
website".  Can you do a quick-n-dirty install from the official tarball
to check if the icon problem happens with the official Pale Moon?  This
test will install into $HOME/pm

1) Go to http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/ and download the
appropriate (32 or 64 bit) tarball for your system.

2) killall palemoon  # Ignore error message if Pale Moon not running.

3) rm -rf $HOME/pm && mkdir $HOME/pm  # Start from a known state

4) tar -C $HOME/pm -xvjf   # Extract tarball

5) $HOME/pm/palemoon/palemoon  # Launch Pale Moon

  Note; this install is self-contained.  It does not splatter stuff all
over various library directories.  Does the icon problem still happen
with the official tarball?

> This is with gcc 4.9.4, and I get the same with gcc 6.4.0. I've only just 
> noticed that about -fPIC; haven't all those problems been fixed by now?

  6.3.0 builds Pale Moon OK on profile 13.  I'll soon be doing the
switch over to 17 on my 32-bit desktop.  You might be able to get things
working with custom flags for the Pale Moon ebuild using package.env as
per...  https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:09:19 GMT Dale wrote:
>
>> Maybe check and see if you have librsvg installed??
> Thanks Dale. Yes, it is installed - is it even possible to run KDE without 
> it, I wonder?
>


Well, I get this here:


root@fireball / # equery d gnome-base/librsvg
 * These packages depend on gnome-base/librsvg:
kde-apps/kwave-17.12.1 (handbook ? gnome-base/librsvg)
mate-base/mate-control-center-1.18.1 (>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.0:2)
mate-base/mate-panel-1.18.2 (>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.36.2:2)
mate-extra/mate-system-monitor-1.18.0 (>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.35:2)
media-gfx/enblend-4.2.0_p20161007-r1 (doc ? gnome-base/librsvg)
media-gfx/eom-1.18.2 (svg ? >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.36.2:2)
media-gfx/gimp-2.9.8-r1 (>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.6:2)
media-gfx/graphviz-2.40.1-r1 (svg ? gnome-base/librsvg)
media-gfx/imagemagick-7.0.7.19 (svg ? gnome-base/librsvg)
media-libs/gegl-0.3.26 (svg ? >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.6:2)
media-video/vlc-2.2.8-r1 (svg ? >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.9:2)
sci-chemistry/chemical-mime-data-0.1.94-r3 (gnome-base/librsvg)
x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.31-r1
(gnome-base/librsvg[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
x11-libs/gtk+-3.22.19
(gnome-base/librsvg[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
x11-themes/adwaita-icon-theme-3.24.0 (gnome-base/librsvg:2)
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.12.0 (gnome-base/librsvg)
x11-wm/openbox-3.6.1 (svg ? gnome-base/librsvg:2)
xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.12-r1 (svg ? gnome-base/librsvg)
root@fireball / #



There is one kde package in there but I think KDE needs some of the
others too.  It appears that a couple GUIs need that package.  Of
course, I'm sure I could change USE flags and whittle that down but then
I might start missing things too.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:09:19 GMT Dale wrote:

> Maybe check and see if you have librsvg installed??

Thanks Dale. Yes, it is installed - is it even possible to run KDE without 
it, I wonder?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:08:12 GMT Arve Barsnes wrote:
>
>> Maybe check command line output?
> I get eight of these: "undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP". The full 
> list is attached.
>


If it helps any:

root@fireball / # equery b
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so
 * Searching for
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so ...
gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.18
(/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so)
root@fireball / #

Maybe check and see if you have librsvg installed??

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:08:12 GMT Arve Barsnes wrote:

> Maybe check command line output?

I get eight of these: "undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP". The full 
list is attached.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.
$ palemoon-bin

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-previous' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-next' for stock: 
Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'view-refresh' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'process-stop' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-home' for stock: 
Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'view-refresh' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'process-stop' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'edit-find' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'list-add' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'window-close' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'view-refresh' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'process-stop' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-previous' for 
stock: Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

(pale moon:2395): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'go-next' for stock: 
Unable to load image-loading module: 
/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: 
/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: UCNV_TO_U_CALLBACK_STOP

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:27:21 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:58:52AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote
> 
> > Q 1:  I've asked this before, but I can't find the reply. How can I
> > arrange for  to step through the open tabs, one at a time,
> > from left to right. Or is there another key combination to do that?
> 
>   From the Pale Moon FAQ...
> https://www.palemoon.org/faq.shtml#Preference:_I_prefer_the_old_Ctrl-Tab

Oops! I should have thought to check there.

> > If you don't like the graphical preview pane for switching between
> > browser tabs, you can restore the method as also found in Firefox:
> > In the address bar, type about:config and press enter. This
> > opens the advanced configuration editor.  Find the parameter
> > browser.ctrlTab.previews and set it to false

Works like a charm. Thanks Walter.

> > Q 2:  What other package do I need installed to give me the navigation
> > symbols? I've attached a section of the window to show what I mean.
> 
>   First try x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme and if that doesn't suffice
> try adwaita-icon-theme (which pulls in x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme).
> Actually, you should already have them installed if you have gtk+(2 or
> 3).

Yes, I do have them both installed already.

> Is this the official Pale Moon, or an unofficial build?

It's www-client/palemoon-bin-27.7.1::palemoon. I don't know whether that's 
"official", because when I "layman -a palemoon" I'm told it's not an 
official overlay. Different officialdoms, I suppose.

I can't compile from source because of this (from the build log):

8 9:45.12 ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: /var/tmp/portage/www-client/
palemoon-27.7.1/work/palemoon-27.7.1/o/toolkit/library/../../media/
libstagefright/Unified_cpp_media_libstagefright0.o: requires dynamic 
R_X86_64_PC32 reloc against '_Z13GetDemuxerLogv' which may overflow at 
runtime; recompile with -fPIC
8 9:45.12 ../../build/unix/gold/ld: error: read-only segment has dynamic 
relocations
8 9:45.12 /var/tmp/portage/www-client/palemoon-27.7.1/work/palemoon-27.7.1/
media/libstagefright/binding/MoofParser.cpp:728: error: undefined reference 
to 'GetDemuxerLog()'
8 9:45.12 /var/tmp/portage/www-client/palemoon-27.7.1/work/palemoon-27.7.1/
media/libstagefright/binding/MoofParser.cpp:735: error: undefined reference 
to 'GetDemuxerLog()'
8 9:45.12 /var/tmp/portage/www-client/palemoon-27.7.1/work/palemoon-27.7.1/
media/libstagefright/binding/MoofParser.cpp:591: error: undefined reference 
to 'GetDemuxerLog()'
8 9:45.12 /var/tmp/portage/www-client/palemoon-27.7.1/work/palemoon-27.7.1/
media/libstagefright/binding/MoofParser.cpp:599: error: undefined reference 
to 'GetDemuxerLog()'
8 9:45.12 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

This is with gcc 4.9.4, and I get the same with gcc 6.4.0. I've only just 
noticed that about -fPIC; haven't all those problems been fixed by now?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:58:52AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote

> Q 1:  I've asked this before, but I can't find the reply. How can I arrange 
> for  to step through the open tabs, one at a time, from left to 
> right. Or is there another key combination to do that?

  From the Pale Moon FAQ...
https://www.palemoon.org/faq.shtml#Preference:_I_prefer_the_old_Ctrl-Tab

> If you don't like the graphical preview pane for switching between
> browser tabs, you can restore the method as also found in Firefox:
> In the address bar, type about:config and press enter. This
> opens the advanced configuration editor.  Find the parameter
> browser.ctrlTab.previews and set it to false

 
> Q 2:  What other package do I need installed to give me the navigation 
> symbols? I've attached a section of the window to show what I mean.

  First try x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme and if that doesn't suffice
try adwaita-icon-theme (which pulls in x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme).
Actually, you should already have them installed if you have gtk+(2 or
3).  Is this the official Pale Moon, or an unofficial build?

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about Pale Moon

[Arve Barsnes]

On 23 January 2018 at 12:58, Peter Humphrey  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I keep having another go at palemoon-bin, and each time I remember why I
> don't use it all the time in preference to Firefox.
>
> Q 1:  I've asked this before, but I can't find the reply. How can I arrange
> for  to step through the open tabs, one at a time, from left to
> right. Or is there another key combination to do that?

In firefox, this is done by activating tab previews with
browser.ctrlTab.previews, maybe that also works in palemoon?


> Q 2:  What other package do I need installed to give me the navigation
> symbols? I've attached a section of the window to show what I mean.

Maybe check command line output?