Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:31:58 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant What do you think fellows? Good idea? Bad idea? Am I the only one who thinks monetary support would stimulate Gentoo development? - Grant I think this is a good idea, and it appears that Amazon.com already supports that kind of thing from what you're saying here.l I don't know if money would help the project, but I do know that personally I don't have much time to devote to my hobbies like Gentoo, but have a lot more time for work than pleasure. So, for some of the development community, money might really help free up some resources. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant What do you think fellows? Good idea? Bad idea? Am I the only one who thinks monetary support would stimulate Gentoo development? - Grant I think this is a good idea, and it appears that Amazon.com already supports that kind of thing from what you're saying here.l I don't know if money would help the project, but I do know that personally I don't have much time to devote to my hobbies like Gentoo, but have a lot more time for work than pleasure. So, for some of the development community, money might really help free up some resources. That's what I'm thinking Dan. I emailed Amazon about this yesterday and we'll see what they say. If it's OK, I'm going to set up an affiliate account, pick a beneficiary, and try to get people to buy via the link right away. That's the quick start. Does anyone have a web server they would lend me a page of? I have one but it hosts my business website and I don't want it to become the target of super-savvy folk. ftp, ssh, even copy-paste would be greatly appreciated. Just one page. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:09:09 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a web server they would lend me a page of? I have one but it hosts my business website and I don't want it to become the target of super-savvy folk. ftp, ssh, even copy-paste would be greatly appreciated. Just one page. Absolutely, if you don't mind it being on my home webserver. I am even getting a little bandwith upgrade at the end of the month. I will send you an email off-list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant What do you think fellows? Good idea? Bad idea? Am I the only one who thinks monetary support would stimulate Gentoo development? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
Lately I've been shopping around for other distros as well as looking at *BSD. Gentoo development seems to have slowed way down and I like things being improved as quickly as possible. FreeBSD is supposed to be the closest relation, but even that won't do. I don't think there is anything as satisfying as Gentoo out there. The concept is second to none, the execution of that concept is fantastic, but it needs to keep moving forward. What is the next step? Or should we keep treading water? - Grant I love gentoo and can't settle for anything else. What can I do to make sure development doesn't stop? Let me in on that. What can I do too? There are plenty of things that can be done, depending on what kind of skills you bring with you. And please note that those skills need not be technical in order to help out. Just some things off the top of my head: * participate in the community (e.g. here or in the forums) to help others with Gentoo things * participate on bugs.gentoo.org by adding relevant comments to bugs, trying to fix bugs, providing new ebuilds or patches (and bugday is a good way to get started with that: http://bugday.gentoo.org/) * help out the documentation teams to maintain the current information or create new stuff and possible translate it * help out with Gentoo artwork * help out with the organization of Gentoo stuff such as events and PR * becoming a developer: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing- needs/ * that one thing that you can do really well but that I forgot to list here What keeps an army of developers from putting in more time on a cool project? I'll bet there are many Gentoo developers who would rather work on Gentoo than most other things. These developers who pretty much *are* Gentoo aren't able to focus on Gentoo because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Flame me. I can take it. Long live Gentoo. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
James ha scritto: I offered to take over the maintenance of the package and web installation page, and was turned down (probable by some punk under the age of 20) Sad. Can you link the thread? m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
