Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-05-13 Thread lee
Kai Krakow  writes:

> Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:39:13 +
> schrieb Alan Mackenzie :
>
>> For a start, I could barely read parts of it, which were displayed in
>> dark blue text on a black background.  Setting
>> up /etc/portage/color.map is not the first thing a new user should
>> have to do to be able to read messages from emerge.  This is,
>> however, something I knew had to be done, and I did it.
>
> This is a problem with most terminal emulators having a much too dark
> "dark blue".

Gentoo is being designed by and for ppl using CRTs?


-- 
"Didn't work" is an error.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread R0b0t1
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Kai Krakow  wrote:
> Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:39:13 +
> schrieb Alan Mackenzie :
>
>> For a start, I could barely read parts of it, which were displayed in
>> dark blue text on a black background.  Setting
>> up /etc/portage/color.map is not the first thing a new user should
>> have to do to be able to read messages from emerge.  This is,
>> however, something I knew had to be done, and I did it.
>
> This is a problem with most terminal emulators having a much too dark
> "dark blue". On an old DOS CRT, this dark blue was still bright enough
> to be read easily on black background. Especially, I found PuTTY in
> Windows having a dark blue barely readable.
>
> E.g., in KDE Konsole I usually switch to a different terminal color
> scheme which usually gets around this. But then, contrast on bright
> colors is usually very bad, as can be seen in MC at some points. But
> the new "breeze" color scheme from current Plasma versions is quite
> nice and an overall good fit.
>

I have occasionally had this problem (and the reverse - green and
yellow are unreadable on light backgrounds), but the default colors in
URxvt are fairly reasonable.

Not to derail this thread but what is the process for getting changes
into the handbook? I have some suggestions as well, but still only
have a vague idea of how it is maintained. There's a lot that could be
added in relation to maintaining modern systems, and many of the
changes to portage could be added. (E.g. there's people who will come
into the IRC and have a conglomeration of settings that, based on the
quirks and naming conventions, you can tell were taken from 3-4 places
each being published years apart. There probably needs to be some
basic information all in one place.)


And in reply to the Perl problem, though my response probably isn't
needed: I can verify that using a high backtrack number solved this,
and that the dependency chain was the longest I have seen save one
other time.