Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 08:30 AM Mick wrote the following: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote: Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor binary patch forces them into this situation. That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP Graphics).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel sources, at least until now, isn't it? No, not at all. Kernels are different and portage treats them very differently.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 11:54, Thanasis wrote: on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel sources, at least until now, isn't it? No, not at all. Kernels are different and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 17:25, James wrote: As part of the open source community, I would think you have a repsonsibility to *reward those vendors that work generously with the greater open source community* ? No, not actually. The only responsibility he has is to do whatever he feels like doing. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 30 Jan 2014 15:25:47 James wrote: Nividia is a *VENDOR* that chooses not to provide information so drivers can be properly maintained, historically. ATI (AMD now) is a vendor who provides information so drivers can be maintained, even optimized, into perpetuity. Maybe you chose

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 11:04 PM James wrote the following: Peter Humphrey peter at prh.myzen.co.uk writes: Maybe you chose unwisely?(get ATI next time) unless I've used nVidia cards for many years. When I bought my first one (maybe 20 years ago) ATI support in Linux was woeful, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 15:23, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? that won't work as each kernel ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 03:23 PM James wrote the following: There might be a work around that suites your needs? # emerge -pv =gentoo-sources-3.10.28 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ~]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/28/2014 10:12 PM eroen wrote the following: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 03:36 PM James wrote the following: Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered. Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as long term, which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series (if I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 05:59 PM James wrote the following: Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered. Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as long term, which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series (if I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes: No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world set, the newer kernel source of the 3.10.X series won't appear as an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 21:37, Thanasis wrote: I only use Alan Cox, as an example; I have no idea who the long-term kernel maintainer is now, but historically it's been somebody with a vested interest, or some poor-unappreciated sapimho. Googling about kernel maintainer for long term 3.10, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes: No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world set, the newer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: Thanasis thanasis at asyr.hopto.org writes: No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote: Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor binary patch forces them into this situation. That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP Graphics). Wouldn't nouveau drivers overcome this