Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-15 Thread james
On 08/13/18 13:14, Corentin �Nado� Pazdera wrote:
> August 13, 2018 6:58 PM, "james"  wrote:
> 
>> Here's what I got running your script::
>>
>> /etc # /root/profile-explorer.sh
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>>
>> Manually looking a the
> 
> Seems weird, also no need to run it as root...
> Here's my output for comparison :
> 
> ```
> % ./profile-explorer.sh
> [+] EROOT : /
> [+] PORTDIR : /var/db/repos/gentoo
> [+] CURPROFILE: default/linux/amd64/17.0
> [+] EAPI : 5
> 
> [+] packages (@system)
> /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/base/packages
> /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/packages
> ```
> 
> And the `explored-packages` file should symply contain a copy of the 
> different inherited packages
> files.
> 
>> less /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>>
>> I see:
>> # Old ICU is unsupported. ICU 58 only remains for 13.0 based profiles.
>> > >
>> But the system has::
>>
>> [I] dev-libs/icu  60.2
>>
>> equery uses icu
>>
>> gives me similar info:
>>
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
>> [ : I - package is installed with flag ]
>> [ Colors : set, unset ]
>> * Found these USE flags for dev-libs/icu-60.2:
>> U I
>> + + abi_x86_32 : 32-bit (x86) libraries
>> - - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra
>> output. If
>> you want to get meaningful backtraces see
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
>> - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is
>> recommended to
>> enable per package instead of globally
>> + + examples : Install examples, usually source code
>> - - static-libs : Build static versions of dynamic libraries as well
>>
>> Which begs the Q1} can I get rid of the flag icu? What are
>> consequences, as a baseline system flag, of it's removal ?
>>
>> less /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> show me more of what the @system set contains. Very interesting and
>> useful. I'm thinking of aggregation of those listed packages
>> and some basic (ascii) table form (equery,emerge, eix) parsed listing
>> of the default and current flag settings. A "verification" tool
>> if you like. Surely it would help if this info was (is?) more readily
>> available and organized for folks that need a systematic approach, like
>> heterogeneous HPC clusters. The tools exist for 'ad-hoc' and one off,
>> but more of an organized representation at least at the set level.
>>
>> I feel like there is an existing tool that can yield all of this
>> information, as it is on a current system. I've read where there are
>> efforts to clean up the packages and default flags used in @system,
>> so the bare minimum list per arch/profiles would ultimately be
>> a useful listing, particular for my HPC. In HPC less is always faster
>> and better, as it is in security and so many more aspects of CS.
>>
>> Obviosly, I have a few things to fix on this (fragile) system, but
>> that'll happen as I'm at the beginning stages of auto_installs of
>> 

Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-13 Thread james
On 08/13/18 13:14, Corentin �Nado� Pazdera wrote:
> August 13, 2018 6:58 PM, "james"  wrote:
> 
>> Here's what I got running your script::
>>
>> /etc # /root/profile-explorer.sh
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>>
>> Manually looking a the
> 
> Seems weird, also no need to run it as root...

Exact same output run as user... I suspect it's garbage that's
left from  the 13.0 profiles days. It's was installed
about 5 years ago, and is pretty hacked up (base stabe plus).

I guess I can manually edit those files indicated and then your
sort of out put will most likely occur That's my next test.


> Here's my output for comparison :
> 
> ```
> % ./profile-explorer.sh
> [+] EROOT : /
> [+] PORTDIR : /var/db/repos/gentoo
> [+] CURPROFILE: default/linux/amd64/17.0
> [+] EAPI : 5
> 
> [+] packages (@system)
> /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/base/packages
> /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/packages
> ```
> 
> And the `explored-packages` file should symply contain a copy of the 
> different inherited packages
> files.
> 
>> less /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>>
>> I see:
>> # Old ICU is unsupported. ICU 58 only remains for 13.0 based profiles.
>> > >
>> But the system has::
>>
>> [I] dev-libs/icu  60.2
>>
>> equery uses icu
>>
>> gives me similar info:
>>
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
>> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
>> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
>> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
>> [ : I - package is installed with flag ]
>> [ Colors : set, unset ]
>> * Found these USE flags for dev-libs/icu-60.2:
>> U I
>> + + abi_x86_32 : 32-bit (x86) libraries
>> - - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra
>> output. If
>> you want to get meaningful backtraces see
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
>> - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is
>> recommended to
>> enable per package instead of globally
>> + + examples : Install examples, usually source code
>> - - static-libs : Build static versions of dynamic 
>> librarieshttps://inductiveautomation.com/ as well
>>
>> Which begs the Q1} can I get rid of the flag icu? What are
>> consequences, as a baseline system flag, of it's removal ?
>>
>> less /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
>> show me more of what the @system set contains. Very interesting and
>> useful. I'm thinking of aggregation of those listed packages
>> and some basic (ascii) table form (equery,emerge, eix) parsed listing
>> of the default and current flag settings. A "verification" tool
>> if you like. Surely it would help if this info was (is?) more readily
>> available and organized for folks that need a systematic approach, like
>> heterogeneous HPC clusters. The tools exist for 'ad-hoc' and one off,
>> but more of an organized representation at least at the set level.
>>
>> I feel like there is an existing tool that can yield all of this
>> information, as it is on a current system. I've read where there are
>> efforts to clean up the packages and default flags used in @system,
>> so 

Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-13 Thread Corentin “Nado” Pazdera
August 13, 2018 6:58 PM, "james"  wrote:

> Here's what I got running your script::
> 
> /etc # /root/profile-explorer.sh
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
> 
> Manually looking a the

Seems weird, also no need to run it as root...
Here's my output for comparison :

```
% ./profile-explorer.sh
[+] EROOT : /
[+] PORTDIR : /var/db/repos/gentoo
[+] CURPROFILE: default/linux/amd64/17.0
[+] EAPI : 5

[+] packages (@system)
/var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/base/packages
/var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/packages
```

And the `explored-packages` file should symply contain a copy of the different 
inherited packages
files.

> less /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> 
> I see:
> # Old ICU is unsupported. ICU 58 only remains for 13.0 based profiles.
>   
> But the system has::
> 
> [I] dev-libs/icu  60.2
> 
> equery uses icu
> 
> gives me similar info:
> 
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> *>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
> --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
> [ : I - package is installed with flag ]
> [ Colors : set, unset ]
> * Found these USE flags for dev-libs/icu-60.2:
> U I
> + + abi_x86_32 : 32-bit (x86) libraries
> - - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra
> output. If
> you want to get meaningful backtraces see
> 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
> - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is
> recommended to
> enable per package instead of globally
> + + examples : Install examples, usually source code
> - - static-libs : Build static versions of dynamic libraries as well
> 
> Which begs the Q1} can I get rid of the flag icu? What are
> consequences, as a baseline system flag, of it's removal ?
> 
> less /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
> show me more of what the @system set contains. Very interesting and
> useful. I'm thinking of aggregation of those listed packages
> and some basic (ascii) table form (equery,emerge, eix) parsed listing
> of the default and current flag settings. A "verification" tool
> if you like. Surely it would help if this info was (is?) more readily
> available and organized for folks that need a systematic approach, like
> heterogeneous HPC clusters. The tools exist for 'ad-hoc' and one off,
> but more of an organized representation at least at the set level.
> 
> I feel like there is an existing tool that can yield all of this
> information, as it is on a current system. I've read where there are
> efforts to clean up the packages and default flags used in @system,
> so the bare minimum list per arch/profiles would ultimately be
> a useful listing, particular for my HPC. In HPC less is always faster
> and better, as it is in security and so many more aspects of CS.
> 
> Obviosly, I have a few things to fix on this (fragile) system, but
> that'll happen as I'm at the beginning stages of auto_installs of
> minimized systems. What are your plans for you little script?
> 
> Just to match equery uses  and such?
> 
> Here's a cutie:
> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/amd64/package.use.mask
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-13 Thread james
On 08/13/18 11:47, james wrote:
> On 08/13/18 11:36, Corentin �Nado� Pazdera wrote:
>> August 13, 2018 4:31 PM, "james"  wrote:
>>
>>> Any hints on a systematic by system parsing this sort of minimized-flag
>>> data :
>>>
>>> [12] default/linux/amd64/17.0 (stable) *
>>>
>>> would be keenly appreciated. "eselect profile list" is great. but
>>> I need it per many different architectures and do not have one
>>> of each of the systems I need to experiment on. How are those flag_sets
>>> discovered in some sort of systematic approach?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't know if this will be of any help but I made a script [1] recently to 
>> analyze the
>> inheritance of system set.
>> It may have a few bugs I did that for learning the inner workings of 
>> profiles mainly.
>> It should'nt need much work to make it print USE flags details
>>
>> [1] https://gist.github.com/nado/44b392b50c0b71a7e22b98d6909bfa72
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Corentin �Nado� Pazdera
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hey thanks,
> 
> I'm testing now an it has given me a few ideas to extend the
> capabilities
> 
> 
> James
> 

Here's what I got running your script::


/etc # /root/profile-explorer.sh
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages


Manually looking a the

less /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/base/packages


I see:
# Old ICU is unsupported. ICU 58 only remains for 13.0 based profiles.
=sys-apps/baselayout-2
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/baselayout-2
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-apps/findutils-4.4
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
*>=sys-devel/patch-2.7
--- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/explored-packages:
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/packages
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[: I - package is installed with flag ]
[ Colors : set, unset ]
 * Found these USE flags for dev-libs/icu-60.2:
 U I
 + + abi_x86_32  : 32-bit (x86) libraries
 - - debug   : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra
output. If
   you want to get meaningful backtraces see

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
 - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is
recommended to
   enable per package instead of globally
 + + examples: Install examples, usually source code
 - - static-libs : Build static versions of dynamic libraries as well




Which begs the Q1}can I get rid of the flag icu? What are
consequences, as a baseline system flag, of it's removal ?


less /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages
show me more of what the @system set contains. Very interesting and
useful. I'm thinking of aggregation of those listed packages
and some basic (ascii) table form (equery,emerge, eix) parsed listing
of the default and current flag settings. A "verification" tool
if you like. Surely it would help if this info was (is?) more readily
available and organized for folks that need a systematic approach, like
heterogeneous HPC clusters. The tools exist for 'ad-hoc' and one off,
but more of an organized representation at least at the set level.

I feel like there is an existing tool that can yield all of this
information, as it is on a current system. I've read where there are
efforts to clean up the packages and default flags used in @system,
so the bare minimum list per arch/profiles  would ultimately be
a useful listing, particular for my HPC. In HPC less is always faster
and better, as it is in security and so many more aspects of CS.


Obviosly, I have a few things to fix on this (fragile) 

Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-13 Thread james
On 08/13/18 11:36, Corentin �Nado� Pazdera wrote:
> August 13, 2018 4:31 PM, "james"  wrote:
> 
>> Any hints on a systematic by system parsing this sort of minimized-flag
>> data :
>>
>> [12] default/linux/amd64/17.0 (stable) *
>>
>> would be keenly appreciated. "eselect profile list" is great. but
>> I need it per many different architectures and do not have one
>> of each of the systems I need to experiment on. How are those flag_sets
>> discovered in some sort of systematic approach?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know if this will be of any help but I made a script [1] recently to 
> analyze the
> inheritance of system set.
> It may have a few bugs I did that for learning the inner workings of profiles 
> mainly.
> It should'nt need much work to make it print USE flags details
> 
> [1] https://gist.github.com/nado/44b392b50c0b71a7e22b98d6909bfa72
> 
> Best regards,
> --
> Corentin �Nado� Pazdera
> 
> 


Hey thanks,

I'm testing now an it has given me a few ideas to extend the
capabilities


James



Re: [gentoo-user] flag icu

2018-08-13 Thread Corentin “Nado” Pazdera
August 13, 2018 4:31 PM, "james"  wrote:

> Any hints on a systematic by system parsing this sort of minimized-flag
> data :
> 
> [12] default/linux/amd64/17.0 (stable) *
> 
> would be keenly appreciated. "eselect profile list" is great. but
> I need it per many different architectures and do not have one
> of each of the systems I need to experiment on. How are those flag_sets
> discovered in some sort of systematic approach?

Hi,

I don't know if this will be of any help but I made a script [1] recently to 
analyze the
inheritance of system set.
It may have a few bugs I did that for learning the inner workings of profiles 
mainly.
It should'nt need much work to make it print USE flags details

[1] https://gist.github.com/nado/44b392b50c0b71a7e22b98d6909bfa72

Best regards,
--
Corentin “Nado” Pazdera