[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

2009-09-23 Thread John Nissen
Dear Alan, I don't think it's so ridiculous. There is a lot of agreement about the seriousness of the situation, and that just reducing emissions is not the whole solution. Kind regards, John Alan Robock wrote: Dear John, Don't be ridiculous. There is no consensus among readers of

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Read
Alan, I would not want to be alligned with any gung-ho brigade, but I do think it is foolish to emphasize the risks of geoengineering to the neglect of the risks of relying solely on emissions reductions. I think selected technologies that pass the test of scale, of reversibility, of

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

2009-09-23 Thread Hawkins, Dave
Alan's point, I believe, is that the geoengineering group is a listserv, not an organization. Hence a call for a manifesto should make clear that any such document would not be issued on behalf of the geoengineerin group but rather on behalf of those who sign it. References to the

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

2009-09-23 Thread Eugene I. Gordon
Peter, well done. Emission reduction is not a slam dunk and even if it goes through the hoop the whistle could blow and the points won't count. And as you know my position is that history shows the globe is getting hotter in any case; and the history should not be ignored. Geo will be ultimately

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

2009-09-23 Thread Manu Sharma
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Alan Robock rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu wrote: There is no consensus among readers of this group. A few of you are completely gung ho, with no interest in evaluating the risks as well as the benefits of any policy recommendation, but that does not represent

[geo] SciCitizen on Royal Society Report

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Caldeira
I was not expecting my email response to be published verbatim, but here it is: http://scitizen.com/stories/climate-change/2009/09/Geoengineering-the-climate--science-governance-and-uncertainty/ Geoengineering the climate : science, governance and uncertainty 23 Sep, 2009 03:17 pm *Earlier

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2009-09-23 Thread Peter Read
- Original Message - From: Leslie Field To: Peter Read Cc: Leslie Field Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering Hi Peter, My email reply to you didn't post to the google group, as I'm not a member. Not sure that's an action

[geo] Discussion on jet-fuel-additive

2009-09-23 Thread Geo engineeering Inventor
What effects do sulfuric acid and silica have on the atmosphere and the weather. If I remember correctly sulfuric acid will cause the ozone hole to enlarge. That's a bad idea since scientists and the EPA have worked for years to restore the ozone layer and this is the first year we have seen

[geo] enough geoengineering. we just have to engineer ourselves...

2009-09-23 Thread Andrew Revkin
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[geo] Re: Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Read
defined as the deliberate large scale intervention in the Earth's climate system, in order to moderate global warming (Royal Society Policy Document 10/09, para 3) visit http://royalsociety.org/displaypagedoc.asp?id=35151 - Original Message - From: Frank Parry jzboc...@yahoo.com To:

[geo] Re: Bogus names

2009-09-23 Thread Manu Sharma
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Oliver Wingenter oliver.wingen...@gmail.com wrote: I would like see the real names attached to each post associated with this group. I think it fair to know who is contributing to the discussions here. On Green-India

[geo] Re: Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Frank Parry
Sounds interesting! I am looking forward to finding out more information On Sep 23, 11:09 pm, Peter Read pre...@attglobal.net wrote: defined as the deliberate large scale intervention in the Earth's climate system, in order to moderate global warming (Royal Society Policy Document 10/09, para

[geo] Re: Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Read
read the download. but note that it is misleading regarding the risks associated with biochar technology and ocean cloud albedo enhancement - Original Message - From: Frank Parry jzboc...@yahoo.com To: geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009