[geo] August 6 and August 9

2011-08-05 Thread Alan Robock
Tomorrow is the 66th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima with a B-29, the Enola Gay, which murdered 150,000 innocent civilians. August 9th is the 66th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Nagasaki, which murdered an additional 90,000 innocent people. I would not describe this as

RE: [geo] August 6 and August 9

2011-08-05 Thread Eugene Gordon
Prof. Robock's input is not about geoengineering as far as I can tell. I disagree strongly with Prof. Robock's thesis. There was in fact an initial demonstration of the power of the bomb in the New Mexico desert. The Japanese were not impressed. The second bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and after

Re: [geo] August 6 and August 9

2011-08-05 Thread James Fleming
Although that thread was not narrowly about geoengineering, it did address the issue of technological linkages, so here are some relevant facts from the history of science and technology: Boeing submitted the prototype for the B-29 long-range heavy bomber to the Army in 1939, before the United

[geo] Major BECCS study

2011-08-05 Thread Rau, Greg
http://ruralclimate.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/document_cw_01-2.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[geo] Siberia melting

2011-08-05 Thread RAU greg
Russia may lose 30% of permafrost by 2050(AFP) – Jul 29, 2011  MOSCOW — Russia's vast permafrost areas may shrink by a third by the middle of the century due to global warming, endangering infrastructure in the Arctic zone, an emergencies ministry official said Friday.In the next 25 to 30

RE: [geo] My AGU abstract: We Don¹t Need a ³Geoengineering² Research Program

2011-08-05 Thread Stuart Strand
The problem is that geoengineering doesn't really fit with the missions of any of the national scientific funding agencies as far as I can tell. As an example, when I talked to the Department of Energy about ways to remove methane and nitrous oxide from the atmosphere they said that it wasn't

Re: [geo] My AGU abstract: We Don¹t Need a ³Geoengineering² Research Program

2011-08-05 Thread Ken Caldeira
If something is not now in the mission of an agency, Congress can cause it to be in the mission. DOE managed to find the Human Genome Project within their domain even though it didn't fit with their energy mission: http://genomics.energy.gov/ If Congress allocates money to an agency to do

Re: [geo] My AGU abstract: We Don¹t Need a ³Geoengineering² Research Program

2011-08-05 Thread Mike MacCracken
Dear Stuart‹There is already a major international program to go after methane emissions‹it just needs to be expanded to cover natural sources. See http://www.epa.gov/globalmethane/ for example. Mike MacCracken On 8/5/11 3:12 PM, Stuart Strand sstr...@u.washington.edu wrote: The problem is

RE: [geo] My AGU abstract: We Don¹t Need a ³Geoengineering² Research Program

2011-08-05 Thread Rau, Greg
Good luck -G __ Science And The Debt Deal Politics: Compromise includes cuts that will hit science agencies over the next decade Susan R. Morrissey, Glenn Hess and Raj Mukhopadhyay Legislation signed by President Barack Obama this week to raise the debt ceiling

[geo] Fwd: methane geoengineering

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Lockley
Hi This dialogue below is copied with Neil Donahue's consent. It covers the issue of treating methane emissions by enhancing sinks (adding NOx, Bromine, Chlorine and also iron aerosols). It probably makes most sense if read from the bottom up. Comments are welcome. A -- Forwarded

[geo] Re: link US petition

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Lockley
This US petition for geoengineering funding is interesting. I know nothing of its origins or supporters. It didn't attract much support, but this could be down to a lack of awareness. It's not clear to me whether the origins were 'green' or 'energy hawks'