Re: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-17 Thread Lou Grinzo
I strongly agree. If we fall into the trap of a viewing this situation as a false dichotomy, then we're making it much worse and dramatically reducing our chances of dealing with it as optimally as is still possible, given the current carbon content of the atmosphere, our infrastructure, etc.

Re: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-17 Thread Bill Stahl
I wonder if this emerging preparedness/adaptation consensus is not an alternative to geoengineering but an incremental step toward it. Governments are quantifying their expected costs, which they will eventually weigh against the costs of, for example, high-latitude SRM. Assuming (and I

RE: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-17 Thread John Latham
[geoengineering@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Mike MacCracken [mmacc...@comcast.net] Sent: 17 June 2013 19:27 To: gh...@sbcglobal.net; bstah...@gmail.com; Geoengineering Subject: Re: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting Hi Greg—I share all your concerns. I would just note that to fit

Re: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-16 Thread Mike MacCracken
Hi Greg‹Back some years ago, F Scott Fitzgerald wrote in The Crack-Up ( 1936), The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function. One might think that we could be considering both mitigation and

[geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-15 Thread Greg Rau
Guess it's official: Plan A (= emissions reductions) has failed.  So we're jumping directly to Plan C ( = survival mode). Apparently the messaging about Plan B (= SRM and CDR) never got through, or someone's decided we're not going there(?) Best of luck to future generations. Some of us tried

Re: [geo] Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

2013-06-15 Thread Ken Caldeira
Note that the President's science advisers have chosen to use the word preparedness rather than adaptation. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_energy_and_climate_3-22-13_final.pdf You have no choice but to adapt, but you can choose to prepare. While you're