RE: [geo] RE: Aluminum particles as a replacement for sulfate aerosols?

2011-07-12 Thread Andrew Lockley
A lot of the health and ecosystems effects particularly may be affected by the size and shape. Think asbestos and pm2.5s for comparisons Have you compared these parameters to natural dust? I prefer sulphur because it is natural in the stratosphere and predictable. It is safe on rain out, too. A

Re: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

2011-07-12 Thread Govindasamy bala
Hi David, Couple of questions. Generation of wind energy would increase the KE dissipation rate but this is not an external forcing to the climate system. I agree there would be local and regional climate changes but there should be no global mean warming. Right? The current KE dissipation rate

Re: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

2011-07-12 Thread Mike MacCracken
Dear David--I was going to ask a similar question to Bala¹s‹as this has actually been an ongoing argument in some circles of the energy community, with a scientific study by a Royal Society lead physicist in their energy analysis talking about a limit based on extracting a share of the existing

Re: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

2011-07-12 Thread Andrew Lockley
If anything, an obstruction or impediment to fluid flows resulting from wind energy extraction will tend to reduce heat redistribution, and that will help restore the temperature differential between tropics and poles which has been harmed by the polar amplification of global warming Logically,

[geo] Re: HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC: Data on public perception

2011-07-12 Thread Josh Horton
David, Thanks for making this available. Note some earlier public opinion focus group work on geoengineering done by UK NERC - http://www.nerc.ac.uk/about/consult/geoengineering-dialogue-final-report.pdf. This contains some very interesting results, particularly on the moral hazard issue. Josh

RE: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

2011-07-12 Thread David Keith
Mike Bala A few answers: First there is almost no link to geo here so we should probably take this off this list. The only (weak link) is weather control, see: http://www.atmos-chem-phys.org/10/769/2010/acp-10-769-2010.html 1. Bala said Generation of wind energy would increase the KE

Re: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

2011-07-12 Thread Mike MacCracken
A few further thoughts. The driving force for atmospheric motions is the equator-pole temperature gradient‹energy continues to come in and decrease entropy (that is, enhancing the gradient), and then the motions tend to increase the entropy (trying to smooth out the gradient). I guess what wind