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2014-01-26 Thread Robert Tulip
From: Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com To: geoengineering geoengineering@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2014 7:31 PM Subject: [geo] What Would Heidegger Say About Geoengineering? Clive Hamilton | ANTHEM http://anthem-group.net/2014/01/18/what-would

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2014-01-20 Thread Pak-Hang Wong
Heidegger’s affiliation to Nazi (and Nazism) was unfortunate and repulsing. I do, however, think that we should not be satisfy with an ad hominem. I think the Heideggerian insight is to make explicit that technology could be seen as a revealing background - technology exemplifies the way human

[geo] What Would Heidegger Say About Geoengineering? Clive Hamilton | ANTHEM

2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://anthem-group.net/2014/01/18/what-would-heidegger-say-about-geoengineering-clive-hamilton/ What Would Heidegger Say About Geoengineering? Clive Hamilton Abstract: Proposals to respond to climate change by geoengineering the Earth’s climate system, such as by regulating the amount of

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2014-01-19 Thread Charles H. Greene
When we are on the verge of truly catastrophic climate change, I wonder what philosophers of science will offer us as an alternative? Obviously, if they wish to discourage scientists from even exploring possible geoengineering options, they must have alternatives to offer, right? On Jan 18,

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2014-01-19 Thread Ken Caldeira
Let's not start insulting philosophers of science here. I do not believe that most philosophers of science see it as their role to discourage inquiry, but rather see their role as doing things such as analyzing how terms gain meaning and refer to things, how we can establish the truth or falsity

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2014-01-19 Thread Andrew Lockley
Sadly not. As the recent discussions with ETC group of this list shows, having solutions doesn't seem to be a prerequisite for publicly dismissing others'. Seems the concept of 'least worst' option hasn't permeated the climate debate. A On 19 Jan 2014 09:33, Charles H. Greene c...@cornell.edu

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2014-01-19 Thread William Calvin
But philosophical and scientific approach must watch out for the hazards of reification, as when emissions became a rate when most people think it a quantity. The terms one picks may frame the whole discussion, as has happened with global warming becoming the planet's near-surface air temp

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2014-01-19 Thread Charles H. Greene
Yes, I agree, and no insult was intended to philosophers of science in general. My comments were in response to the particular diatribe that was posted. I do believe that philosophers of science have an responsibility to offer alternatives if they are going to take a stand against certain

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2014-01-19 Thread Ronal W. Larson
List: cc Ken, Charles, Andrew 1. I finally found the full Sept. 2013 paper at http://clivehamilton.com/what-would-heidegger-say-about-geoengineering/ - But you have to find the small “pdf” symbol there. 33 pages with language that is difficult for me as a non-philosopher (e.g. “Being”,

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2014-01-19 Thread Ken Caldeira
Before we concern ourselves too much with channeling Heidegger's ghost, and echo-ing born-again Christians in asking what the great man would do, we might want to keep in mind that Heidegger was a member of the Nazi party and never publicly apologized for having become one.