Thanks Ken,
One observation tho, if the Intervention moderator is now the primary
moderator for Geo, doesn't that mean that Geo has become Intervention?
These type of online groups are as much a reflection of the moderators
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I am proposing to significantly increase atmospheric CCS rates through the
use of the Lackner type polymer-based ion exchange resin CCS system with the
energy efficient ambient air flow induction potential of a Bedini Motor.
The Bedini Motor US Patent is here
Please help me understand the mechanics of Bright Water deployment. I have
spent many months living on the Bering Sea (in winter) and have piloted
150ft fishing vessels in that area for countless hours. I have watched the
sea continually produce white caps for as far as I could see for days and
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Michael Hayes asks about how bubbles could be deployed.
One possibility would be for a pair of wind-driven vessels to sail side by
side at, say, a kilometre separation, attached to each
, but commercial ships would seem a fine
starting approach.
Mike
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Thank you both for the insight.
Yes, I do now recall the dual boat tether concept and I have some working
back ground in towing a long array of gear. From
hydrate release on the
west coast of Africa could be expected to be as significant as a arctic
release.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-agulhas-leakage-fueled-global-stabilize.html
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I have played with the idea of designing
I ask for your patients!
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bean lecithin.*
Sonification with high pressure (and release) seems to be the preferred
method of production.
I have just started reading the IP in this area and will build a list of
links if anyone is interested.
Thanks,
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The Home Brew experiment setup seems like a good idea for
education/experimentation. I would like to offer a few layperson
suggestions.
For the diffuser, what about using a water filtration element that filters
water down to the micron level? This may produce micron sized air bubbles
Thanks John,
Yes, I do now recall the study review on that website. I came across it
shortly after publication. I have not read the full text of the study as my
budget for science journal subscriptions is maxed out. If you know of anyone
with a file copy, I would like to read the full text of
On the issue of using Lair as a vent sealant, I may be wrong, but, I do
believe the ice formed would most likely float away. And, a vent would be
most likely more of a diffused field of bubble streams as opposed to a
central vent. Also, capping such a vent with even cement will be
eventually
reservoir.
In my personal opinion, this issue is make or break for our society.
A
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On the issue of using Lair as a vent sealant, I may be wrong, but, I do
believe the ice formed would most likely float away. And, a vent would
I would like to offer two suggestion.
There is growing use of Biochar in china at the consumer level through this
type of product. http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/singfieldgas Close
evaluation
of that trend may prove insightful to the Biochar issue. Please note that
this type of reactor
Hi All,
This is a 1hr. lecture that is highly informative as to the state of
knowledge on the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSTm6cZjO14feature=related
In dealing with vents, one possible path came to mind as I watched the
lecture. That is, accelerating methane aerobic oxidation
Hi Albert,
I have actually spent some time looking at this type of system for my own
lake. I am thinking through the design engineering details and will keep
this suggestion in mind.
The use of a bubbler line has two advantage that I think will be important.
In that, being able to adjust the
Thanks for posting this link. This was a very interesting read.
I read your contribution concerning intergenerational equity and have a
question on one concept. I quote:
Unfortunately, while a commitment to SRM geoengineering approaches in lieu
of
effective mitigation responses might prove
It is my understanding that Normative Jurisprudence Law, such as treaties
and conventions, is an exercise in political philosophy. As a layperson, I
am very concerned with any political philosophy which calls for a
non emergency response to an emergency situation.
1) The Esppo Convention model
Hi Folks,
This idea is just an early thought and may not be practicalBut, here it
goes.
If you take a look at this paper
http://www.mumm-research.de/download_pdf/treude_et_al_aom_hr.pdf Pg 2
The AOM consortium predominant at HR consists
of sulfate-reducing bacteria of the branch
Dr. Salter,
This came through yesterday and your cloud brighting effort came to mind.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-scientists-links-biology-cloud-formation.html
What would you think of spicing up the cloud brighting with this (*
dimethylsulfid)* compound? I could see the bilge water
Hi Nathan,
Please let me clean up my statement here. I think you have just made my
point in that we are getting a good handle on the complexities of the many
chemical/biological issues of the different aspects of GE. And, that
accumulation and synthesis of knowledge isby and largefrom
Will,
You can be persuasive..are you a lawyer?:)
If it may please the court..?
* Somehow I think we know a lot more about the brake systems of cars,
borne out by 100 years of experience, than the effectiveness of SRM
technologies. Beyond the fact that a number of experts have
Ok Will,
I also enjoyed the the challenge of our exchange. I learned much from it.
Locking reduction with deployment would be ideal and logical; a rare
combination. You have faith in policy and I have faith in our ability to
solve technical problems. Those that come after us may look back on
One last thought, Wil.
Don't bet on rare combinations! Casinos make Lots of money of those.for
a reason!
Michael
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Hello Mark,
Concerning cryogenic use, have you factored in the Atmospheric Electrical
aspects of CCN? It is a rarely talked about issue, but there is clear
indications that CCN has an electrical aspect.
Here are a few references. If your concept gets to the modeling stage, the
modelers
Hi Folks,
Andrew,
I did not have that extreme degree of aeration in mind. And, I can not see
massively enhanced methane excursions happening if reasonable bubblers
designs are developed. First and formost, the core of the concept is to
increase the O2 saturation a few percent for as deep as
That post was impressive, Sam.
I have an 18 acre mountain lake in the North Cascades and watch each year
how it goes though an analogy of what the Huttunen paper described. The lake
has a bog at one end and is rather shallow throughout. So, it constantly
produces methane. The lake has produced
Sam, I missed one of your points, an important one. 'bubbles could form an
insulating layer in between an ice-cap and warming water underneath the
cap. Ice is warmer than sea water at that interface. An oxygen
enriched gaseous layer could help the surface biota thrive under the
icemore
Hi folks,
I tried addressing the bubble issue in a response to Sam under the main
Lecture on Methane Hydrates... thread.
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I want to repost the main reply to Sam as I have realized it is loaded with
typos and some may be misleading.
That post was impressive, Sam.
I have an 18 acre mountain lake in the North Cascades and watch each year
how it goes though an analogy of what the Huttunen paper describes. The
lake
Hi Folks,
Here is a TED talk by Dr. John Delaney on the
Oceans Observatories Initiative (OOI) This is the proper test site for any
new ideas proposed for the ocean methane issue.
http://www.ted.com/talks/john_delaney_wiring_an_interactive_ocean.html
Here is the construction schedule.
Hi Folks,
I would like to respond to this intricate assessment by Andrew.
Albert is right that the ESS excursions are shallow. All cold-environment
excursions tend to be shallow as the clathrathe stability zone terminates
closer to mean sea level in cold waters. Therefore high latitude
Here is my reply to Andrew's assessment of the oxygenation concept (Sea
Worm).
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/geoengineering/1x25PF5audA/discussion
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Thanks Sam,
As to micro-bubbles acting as insulation, this is perhaps applicable
where warm water of the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic Ocean is entering
the Arctic Ocean. Micro-bubbles could possibly be added to the stream
close to the sea ice, to form an insulating layer underneath the ice,
when
Methane Tipping Point Early Warning System and Electromagnetic Mapping of
Hydrate Fields.
I was downloading the relevant papers from the U.of C. library and found
this 08 PhD dissertation on mapping hydrate fields.
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Andrew, if you block my last post, I will go over your head.
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Andrew, this statement I'm certainly not going to be wading through
Stephen's maths to check whether he's got his sums right! Should be your
resignation
Hi All,
I have pulled together a few Bubbler Buoy option.
Here is an Advanced Anchoring and Mooring Study.
http://www.oregonwave.org/wp-content/uploads/Anchor-and-Mooring-Study_FINAL-mod-051010.pdf
http://www.oregonwave.org/wp-content/uploads/Anchor-and-Mooring-Study_FINAL-mod-051010.pdfThis
Hi Folks,
Bhaskar, I am linking a Diatom website which has a bank of other related
websites. http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html#ultimate
http://www.indiana.edu/~diatom/diatom.html#ultimateThis is a new field for
me to study and I apologize for not getting back to your PM this weekend.
Bhaskar,
Here is a Google search list I will be working through in trying to
understanding on my last question as to the impact of diatoms on ocean
acidification.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Efficiency+of+the+CO2-concentrating+mechanism+of+diatomshl=enas_sdt=0as_vis=1oi=scholart
Hi All,
Bhaskar has brought the use of diatoms up and I find the thought path
interesting. I would like to start this thread off in an effort to keep the
issue organized in one thread for easy reference and focused discussion on
his suggestion/concept.
The main benefits of diatoms are O2
.
Any attempt to 'farm' or grow diatoms to accumulate them will be very
expensive.
best regards
Bhaskar
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Bhaskar has brought the use of diatoms up and I find the thought path
interesting. I would like to start
loose their buoyancy and sink.
Some Diatoms also expel the lipids and in tanks and ponds you can
see
the oily film floating on the surface.
regards
Bhaskar
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MV, thank you
Hi Folks,
After reading Greg's post, I have spent some time looking into the
methane release being caused by Fracking. Here is a link to a resent film
on the subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8 If you are
interested in the methane issue in general, I encourage you to take the
Hi Folks,
The meetings being set up are exciting to see come about. If a Skype link
could be incorporated, I believe we could see a significantly
larger participation. I personally can not afford the travel yet would very
much like to be there. This group is global and these types
of
altitude planes...
A
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After reading Greg's post, I have spent some time looking into the
methane release being caused by Fracking. Here is a link to a resent
film
on the subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
for CCS,
though - although I'm sure views may vary.
If only we could get the oil industry to build us some cloud machines
and high
altitude planes...
A
On 1 Jun 2011 21:25, Michael Hayes voglerl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Folks,
After reading Greg's post, I have spent some
Large scale CO2 hydrate production and deposition may be expedited through
the use of a large scale Ocean Thermal Conversion plant positioned over the
target sequestration trough. Here is a paper outlining such a system (Fig.
30).
Hi Folks,
Thanks for the numbers on Ocean Algal Afforestation and the overall work you
and Dr. Stewart have presented. The ocean afforestation approach is an idea
which has made a good deal of practical sense to me for sometime. My post
concerning the MODEST concept was an attempt to either find
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Hi Folks,
Andrew, I think your proposed letter to the IPCC countering the ETC et.alia
Open Letter should be the main focus. However, I will start compiling a
contact info list of the signers if a direct response letter is to be
prepared. The points which Ken offers are a great rallying flag
Hi Folks,
Ken, on the issue of media support, what about a new website;
As this group knows, the issue of GE has a need for broad public education
on the many important issues within the general topic. An established PR
firm would be a good investment at this time. Yet, who and what will the
Hi Folks,
Holly, I read your media assessment paper and found it a pleasure to see
such thought put into the subject. The concept of GE is in need of this type
of insight now and for sometime to come. Your paper can be viewed as a good
indicator as to how well the message is being reieved. I
the idea, and it seemed to die at that
point.
Is there now any support for establishing a geoengineering studies society
A
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Scroll down for some very good photos.
regards
Bhaskar
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This is a conceptual sketch on the use of a biological aerosol. It is a
very
raw concept
intensive exchanges
among any interested parties must be done with their mother tongue. I
am a bit sorry for that, but I certainly see the need for the
familiarization program in English. It will benefit us as well as
folks in the street.
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or not to ETC?(many groups like ETC reject REDD+). I think
I have gotten into the ETC website once or twice, but have been foiled at
least ten times before and couldn't get in tonight. Is there a secret way
or time to get there?
Ron
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, this short study gave me a much clearer picture of how bad the GW
issue is. Transposing CO2 emissions onto the needed land mass for C4 CCS, is
an eye opener. We will need to build a new continent. Maybe we can start
this one out on the right foot.
Michael Hayes
(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halophyte
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Bhaskar,
Yes that did come up in my study. I did try to indicate that the concept I
offered was well suited for both
Ok,
I again need the crayon and construction paper treatment. Will someone
please explain to me this gibberish.
http://www.google.com/ig#m_5_%7B%22th%22:%22130df29e00f5a3ff%22,%20%22fl%22:%220%22,%20%22tc%22:%2220%22%7D
Apparently, someone is buttering both sides of the toast.
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OK Again,
The link was not for this issue. Here is the text I received concerning the
education of GW.Sorry for the.well swimming recommendations.
*Unravelling current confusions around the national curriculum and the
school curriculum*
*We do not inherit the earth from our
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In my reading of the Hyde et al. paper, the concept of using conductive
sheets as a form of SRM stood out in my view as being a highly creative
concept waiting for advancements in material science. Space based deployment
was suggested over stratospheric placement due to oxidation
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Here is a media report on study which may point to the importance of
educational outreach concerning GE.
Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-minority-scientists-ideas.html
Here is the opening paragraph:
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the alternatives are.
Josh, as for the acronym SAG, no negative connotations were intended, but
a different acronym would be fine with me as long as it refers to the same
technique.
Thanks,
Toby
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D-5-W
? Kant? Rawls? Dewey? Even the historians
(Fleming) seem oblivious that there are many different ethical standards.
Trying to accomodate them while doing engineering at this early phase seems
pointless.
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IR energy?
Andrew has blocked my previous efforts to raise this question and I ask
that he simply *stop* *censoring* this group.
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So, seems likely to be a non-issue.
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As the Arctic situation
comment was comparing shells with shells, not shells with
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aircraft at present* is misleading. Virtually all modern aircraft can
be quickly modified for automation
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As the Arctic situation is the weakest of the weak links in our
environment and Stratospheric Particle Injection is a front runner of SRM
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'origionator/inventor' has already happened (Benford/diatomaceous earth).
What patent was this? I know of one filed, since I was on it.
Gregory
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Hayes voglerl
of this company would probably listen to Drs.
Calderia, McCraken, Salter, Latham etc. if such a marrage of concepts is
supported by this group.
Best,
Michael
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Hi Folks,
This type of study may help in possably developing a GE method which could
use cloud volume reduction/modification. P. syringae is one possable tool
for such a method and a new type of aircraft is needed to deliver
such. Here is the link to the NCAR/UCAR study:
Hi Folks,
I'm currently designing an agroponics system for my 18 ac. lake which will
harvest lake bed methane to help heat/power the system.
The relevent aspect of this work, to the Stolaroff paper, is the means of
harvesting the lake bed methane. The anchoring system will be a simple
Hello Mike et al.,
This is a question which begs the fundimental question of; What exactly *is*GE?
It is clear from an overwhelming number of studies that current energy
policies and FF usage is changing our climate. The legal concept of
'Reasonable Knowability' is well established and
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