Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-02 Thread Francis Micheal Ludlow
Reynolds, J.L. (Jesse) <j.l.reyno...@uu.nl> > *Cc:* m...@clivehamilton.com; Daniel B Kirk-Davidoff <da...@umd.edu>; > Douglas MacMartin <macma...@cds.caltech.edu>; geoengineering < > geoengineering@googlegroups.com>; brian.peter...@nau.edu; > diana.stu...@nau.edu

RE: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-02 Thread Douglas MacMartin
@umd.edu <mailto:da...@umd.edu> > Cc: Douglas MacMartin <macma...@cds.caltech.edu <mailto:macma...@cds.caltech.edu> >; geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com <mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com> >; gunde...@miamioh.edu; brian.peter...@nau.edu <mailto:bri

Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-02 Thread Gunderson, Ryan
ation of Technology* > > > > *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com [mailto:geoengineering@ > googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Clive Hamilton > *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 23:25 > *To:* Daniel B Kirk-Davidoff <da...@umd.edu> > *Cc:* Douglas MacMartin <macma...@cds.

Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-02 Thread Peter Eisenberger
In the paper http://www.chichilnisky.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Energy-Security-Economic-Development-and-Global-Warming-Addressing-short-and-long-term-challenges-2009..pdf is formalized the relationship between technology development and economics where the feedback is positive The more

RE: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-01 Thread Reynolds, J.L. (Jesse)
; Cc: Douglas MacMartin <macma...@cds.caltech.edu>; geoengineering <geoengineering@googlegroups.com>; gunde...@miamioh.edu; brian.peter...@nau.edu; diana.stu...@nau.edu Subject: Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism There's a bit more: Royal Dutch Shell was funding an ocean liming study St

Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-01 Thread Clive Hamilton
There's a bit more: Royal Dutch Shell was funding an ocean liming study Steve Koonin of BP chaired an expert meeting at Novim And if course there was the infamous statement by Exxon's Rex Tillerson that climate change is an engineering problem with 'engineering solutions'. See pp 77-8 pf

Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-01 Thread Gunderson, Ryan
Hi Doug, Along with Earthmasters, this is worth a read: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0096340214531173 Regarding your other question, our paper does make a distinction between support for research and support for deployment. Note that our paper is more precise than my email

Re: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-01 Thread Daniel B Kirk-Davidoff
The Hamilton reference points to Haroon Kheshgi at Exxon-Mobil as an enthusiast of ocean liming as far back as 1995 and has having put out a report on stratospheric aerosol SRM. Dan On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Douglas MacMartin wrote: > Sorry, couldn’t leave this

RE: [geo] Fwd: Geoengineering and Capitalism

2018-02-01 Thread Douglas MacMartin
Sorry, couldn’t leave this alone… I do find this sentence interesting: The second reason I’m surprised is it seems that the fossil fuel industry is supportive of GE, given that they fund many GE supporters (Hamilton 2013). The only connection I’m aware of between the fossil fuel industry