Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-05 Thread Frank Warmerdam
On Feb 4, 2013 6:53 PM, "Ben Caradoc-Davies" wrote: > > I was going to ask Frank for more detail, but reading his original email, it is all there: > http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Contribution-Agreement-Clarity-td5022284.html > > My understanding of this is that Google does not want to make

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-05 Thread Jody Garnett
I would prefer not to mess with it if we don't have to (part of our motivation in looking at this is to provide something that is clear cut so legal departments do not need to think). If I word that more strongly we would need to talk to a legal rep at free software foundation to find you a b

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
That is interesting, Jody. I am not opposed to formalising the role of representatives, just observing that we have not done so thus far. It might well be a good idea. Perhaps we can broaden the language to "representative" (but this has legal connotations), or even just "person", together with

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Jody Garnett
Thanks Ben, for reference I have been going through the eclipse stuff and … a) It also demands employers sign for each representative they have in the mix b) It is very clear (when you sign up) that you can reference an employer, or the organisations you are doing the work for as a contractor

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
I added these in a new discussion section. On 04/02/13 19:03, Jody Garnett wrote: > Can you make a note of these two questions on the proposal page. -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Software Engineer CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering Australian Resources Research Centre ---

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 05/02/13 00:01, Justin Deoliveira wrote: > I am sure this has been covered but the proposal states that the current > agreement is unsuitable for use but doesn't state why. I was going to ask Frank for more detail, but reading his original email, it is all there: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabbl

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Jody Garnett
That is just it Justin, we do not know (and are not going to get any further detail). My assumption is that our agreement would require thought/review as it is not on a whitelist of approved documents. -- Jody Garnett On Tuesday, 5 February 2013 at 3:01 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote: > For ign

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Justin Deoliveira
I am sure this has been covered but the proposal states that the current agreement is unsuitable for use but doesn't state why. For ignorant folks like me who haven't been following the developments on this one it would be nice to have a few bullet points as to what the issues are. On Mon, Feb 4,

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Jody Garnett
On Monday, 4 February 2013 at 9:16 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > What is the impact on existing contributors? Will we need to submit new > agreements? > > I made some notes / assumptions in the proposal (check the tasks section). > This new agreement also appears to introduce a maintenance o

Re: [Geotools-devel] Proposal Replace Contribution Agreement

2013-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
What is the impact on existing contributors? Will we need to submit new agreements? This new agreement also appears to introduce a maintenance overhead in that corporate entities seem to have to designate authorised employees who are able to contribute. In my organisation, the exercise of this