Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-09 Thread Jim Lesurf
In article 545ecc0f.5040...@jifvik.org, Jonathan Larmour j...@jifvik.org wrote: On 08/11/14 23:05, Peter S Kirk wrote: Yes, David runs the list. However, he should respect the preferences of list members who as you say almost no-one else on the list agrees with him in principle. I very

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread Jim Lesurf
For the moment I'm occupied with fixing things still broken by the loss of the programme feeds, but HDS is a can of worms that will have to be opened eventually. The BBC have already declared they are moving to HDS for AOD in 2015. If they are going to use the switch to bring in DRM (a

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-09 Thread Jim Lesurf
In article 1415481888.17370.89.ca...@infradead.org, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: As Owen says, this has been discussed before. Your email client - every email client - has (at least) two options for *how* to reply to an email. First there's the private reply which goes only

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
True, you can do that, but ... 1) It is mainly the calling of external programs that causes stuttering to other processes 2) I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the fallback position of the worst offenders being controlled anyway. If you want

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread michael norman
On 09/11/14 10:27, Jim Lesurf wrote: For the moment I'm occupied with fixing things still broken by the loss of the programme feeds, but HDS is a can of worms that will have to be opened eventually. The BBC have already declared they are moving to HDS for AOD in 2015. If they are going to

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-09 Thread David Woodhouse
Yes, David runs the list. However, he should respect the preferences of list members who as you say almost no-one else on the list agrees with him in principle. No. I have already explained why things are thw way they are, and the problems we cause by doing things differently. I am

RE: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
You've evidently not seen the open data charter: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-data-charter No, I hadn't. Thanks for the link. Wrt to the current situation, one of the interesting paragraphs linked above reads: 13) We recognise that the term government data is

Re: mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-09 Thread Mark Rogers
On 8 Nov 2014 22:41, Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: People don't always agree to their postings being published elsewhere, or their email address being publicised outside of the lists they have subscribed to. The vast majority (citation needed!) of mailing lists are public and

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread Jim Lesurf
In article 545f5658.3030...@gmail.com, michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/11/14 10:27, Jim Lesurf wrote: FWIW I've just written an 'opinion' column for Hi Fi News magazine about the way the BBC dropped the feeds and raising the general issue Have you put it on your own

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 09/11/2014 11:18, C E Macfarlane wrote: True, you can do that, but ... 1) It is mainly the calling of external programs that causes stuttering to other processes 2) I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the fallback position of the worst offenders

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Tom
On 09/11/14 13:18, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 09/11/2014 11:18, C E Macfarlane wrote: True, you can do that, but ... 1)It is mainly the calling of external programs that causes stuttering to other processes 2)I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Dave Liquorice
2)I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the fallback position of the worst offenders being controlled anyway. Write a shell script to run get_iplayer under nice or set an alias in your shell's config? ___ get_iplayer

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014/11/09 13:18, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 09/11/2014 11:18, C E Macfarlane wrote: True, you can do that, but ... 1) It is mainly the calling of external programs that causes stuttering to other processes 2) I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Tom
On 09/11/14 13:18, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 09/11/2014 11:18, C E Macfarlane wrote: True, you can do that, but ... 1)It is mainly the calling of external programs that causes stuttering to other processes 2)I often forget to start get_iplayer with nice, and it's nice to have the

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread michael norman
On 09/11/14 13:01, Jim Lesurf wrote: In article 545f5658.3030...@gmail.com, michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/11/14 10:27, Jim Lesurf wrote: FWIW I've just written an 'opinion' column for Hi Fi News magazine about the way the BBC dropped the feeds and raising the general

Re: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-09 Thread SquarePenguin
On 4 November 2014 14:40:16 GMT+00:00, C E Macfarlane c.e.macfarl...@macfh.co.uk wrote: Now available for signatories. Please sign if you are a UK resident and feel remotely able to support it: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/71556 A little OT to get_iplayer but I thought you might

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread TQ
On 09 November 2014 at 13:18 Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: If you want that, why wouldn't you just start get_iplayer with nice anyway? i.e. nice -19 get_iplayer You and a few others have mentioned nice in the last few days. I've never heard of it

Difficulties downloading a couple of programmes - help please!

2014-11-09 Thread Alan Milewczyk
The problem I'm about to describe is affecting two programmes I was hoping to download, BOTH of which are playing normally in BBCs iPlayer and can be saved and played in BBC iPlayer Downloads without difficulty. The programmes in question are from yesterday (Saturday 8th November) on BBC1,

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
How about this in .profile? alias get_iplayer=nice -19 get_iplayer I think ... alias gip='nice -n 19 get_iplayer' ... would be more correct(!), and also more convenient. But the trouble is, I also sometimes like to run it in the foreground, if I'm not expecting to be

RE: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
Won't discuss it further here, because, as you say, it's OT, but, as you also say, 'interesting'! http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240234078/Government-open- standards-the-curious-case-of-Microsoft-and-the-minister ___ get_iplayer mailing

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 09/11/2014 13:33, Tom wrote: On 09/11/14 13:18, Alan Milewczyk wrote: You and a few others have mentioned nice in the last few days. I've never heard of it before. What is it and what are its benefits? Sorry about last blank response! nice is a unix/linux command that sets the priority

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread Alex Poylisher
For what it's worth (and those who might need this now), the following URLs for the 1500k HDS streams work with livestreamer at the moment: BBC News: hds://bbcfmhds.vo.llnwd.net/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/newsch/newsch_1500.f4m BBC One:

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 08/11/2014 21:08, C E Macfarlane wrote: 1) This patches get_iplayer v2.90 to use nice with the parameter -n 19, Others have beaten me to the punch here: nice does not belong in get_iplayer. Use a wrapper script or shell alias to apply nice to get_iplayer itself. Leaving that aside,

Re: Difficulties downloading a couple of programmes - help please!

2014-11-09 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 09/11/2014 16:21, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 09/11/2014 14:55, Alan Milewczyk wrote: INFO: No specified modes (flashhd,flashvhigh,flashhigh,flashstd,flashnormal,flashlow) available for this programme with version 'default' (try using --modes=flashaacstd,rtspaacstd) ERROR: Failed to record

Re: Live TV pining for the fjords

2014-11-09 Thread Mark Carroll
Jim Lesurf w...@audiomisc.co.uk writes: It explores the issue that there is an apparent conflict of interest for the BBC between its duty to its fee-paying viewers/listeners who pay for the BBC made/commissioned content and the legal vultures of the commercial companies whose films, etc, they

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
This is precisely the sorts of reason I tend not to get involved in development lists for other people's software. The usual run of events goes something like ... Phase 1:You suggest what you see as an enhancement. Phase 2:Instead of judging the SPIRIT of the enhancement on it

RE: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread C E Macfarlane
The tests are scattered for a reason. No need to check binaries if they aren't going to be used. So instead you are not sure whether you've initialised the binary variables and/or tested for the binary existences, and do the work twice or more. For example: 1) In line 1362-3,

Re: Your message to get_iplayer awaits moderator approval

2014-11-09 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 09/11/2014 18:05, C E Macfarlane wrote: been quite sufficient, but you required me to submit sort of patch just so From your response, it now seems clear you weren't submitting your code for inclusion in get_iplayer. My apologies for considering it as such and holding it to that

Re: iplayer audio to lpcm

2014-11-09 Thread Budgie
On 08/11/14 23:54, Square Penguin wrote: [snip] If you're using Thunderbird on Mac as I am now this is not the case by default. Thunderbird offers 'reply' and 'smart reply' which attempts to intelligently select the behaviour you desire. I too very much like the existing system and thank

Re: Having problems downloading Tommies (again)

2014-11-09 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 09/11/2014 23:34, James Scholes wrote: get_iplayer --type=radio --pid=b03thc5k get_iplayer v2.90, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis ... INFO Trying to stream pid using type radio INFO: pid found in cache Matches: 13161: Tommies - 4 November 1914, BBC Radio 4, INFO: 1 Matching Programmes