Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Trevor Campbell Davis
First of all, a big thank you to those of you responsible for a few wonderful years of Get_iPlayer use. It’s been one of the most useful daily tools on my system. I use it for both radio and TV downloads, mainly from R3 and BBC4. Originally using the command prompt for single downloads, I

No More Get_Iplayer

2014-10-31 Thread Steve
Well I guess its back to recording onto a Minidisc with a power timer! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 09:08:26AM -, Trevor Campbell Davis wrote: It’s a pain, but I can easily manually source the PIDs of the programmes that I want on a daily basis. What I don’t want (or have time) to do is to manually enter single command line instructions for each programme when the

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Ross
The feeds are gone, but at least for now the bbc schedules are still there. I am not sure you need scraping … yet. Here is one of the schedules: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/schedules/hd/this_week.xml This gives an option for an immediate workaround to get the pvr going again (as

Re: We should be grateful ( was Re: A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
But BBC iPlayer Download insists I play the download on my PC. That's useless to me, my laptop has a small screen and isn't connected to my surround sound system. With get_iplayer I was copying the downloaded file to my Freeview PVR and playing it on my TV from there which worked well. There is

Re: No More Get_Iplayer

2014-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
I use an S-VHS VCR to record Classic FM since their Listen Again feed is of such awful sound quality. (Damned list, I sent a private reply to Steve first, grr mutter...) -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net Cambridge, UK On 31 Oct 2014, at 09:28, Steve startrek.st...@gmail.com wrote: Well I

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Maude
On 31/10/2014 02:55, Dave Ford wrote: As posted on the BBC Internet blog - from Jon Billings: 'In particular, the BBC does not sanction XBMC, get_iplayer or similar clients, and the iPlayer RSS feeds were never designed or intended to support them. Nitro will almost certainly not support their

iFetch broken too ... ?

2014-10-31 Thread Chris J Brady
Seems like it is ... http://wftpd.com/ifetch.html CJB ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Paul Oldham
On 31/10/14 02:55, Dave Ford wrote: As posted on the BBC Internet blog - from Jon Billings: 'In particular, the BBC does not sanction XBMC, get_iplayer or similar clients, and the iPlayer RSS feeds were never designed or intended to support them. Nitro will almost certainly not support their

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Maude
On 31/10/2014 08:57, Chris Marriott wrote: Sorry if I'm missing something here, but what's the problem with downloading by PID? It's always worked perfectly well for me, and this change hasn't affected it at all. Chris It does work, but the PVR option was a great feature, particularly when

Fw: iFetch broken too ... ?

2014-10-31 Thread Chris J Brady
Damnd list bounced this - why? --- On Fri, 31/10/14, Chris J Brady chrisjbr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Chris J Brady chrisjbr...@yahoo.com Subject: iFetch broken too ... ? To: get_iplayer get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Date: Friday, 31 October, 2014, 11:22 Seems like it is ...

Re: Fw: iFetch broken too ... ?

2014-10-31 Thread Gareth Ellis
I got your first message, though it did appear in my spam folder On 31 October 2014 12:04, Chris J Brady chrisjbr...@yahoo.com wrote: Damnd list bounced this - why? --- On Fri, 31/10/14, Chris J Brady chrisjbr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Chris J Brady chrisjbr...@yahoo.com Subject: iFetch

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Andrews
I wish to extend my thanks to Ross and User Name, the fix described here is working fairly well. The patch as described works on my Raspberry Pi with get_iplayer version 2.88 edit /usr/bin/get_iplayer and modify as described. I was then able to refresh with get_iplayer --refresh --type=radio

iPlayer comments ...

2014-10-31 Thread Chris J Brady
Comments can be made at the Which site: Re: Expert view – ‘Nice changes, but can everyone enjoy them?’ http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/internet-tv/bbc-iplayer-gets-new-look-on-web-browsers/comment-page-1/ Also see http://ecustomeropinions.com/survey/survey.php?sid=776524682data1=TV CJB

iPlayer Convertor

2014-10-31 Thread Chris J Brady
This is a useful site that still appears to be working. It allows the identification of Titles v.v. PIDs http://www.iplayerconverter.co.uk/r/4/aod/default.aspx Surely the scripting behind this could populate a PVM Cache? However like other users I am keen to find a CMD script that will: 1/

BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Ray West
Hi, It seems that bbc have altered in the last couple of days, and getiplayer does not work. Any chance of getiplayer being updated? Best wishes, Ray ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

One case where PID does not work ( was Re: A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread artisticforge .
hello In most cases PID still works. I know of one case where PID fails. The specific case is where the same PID exists in the past and in the future. The case is with BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong Broadcast on Wednesday and repeated on Sunday. Cannot download because get_iplayer is determining

Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 01:46:58PM +, Ray West wrote: It seems that bbc have altered in the last couple of days, and getiplayer does not work. Any chance of getiplayer being updated? Please read recent list traffic where this has all been discussed at some length. If you're new to the list,

Re: One case where PID does not work ( was A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
artisticforge . artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote: Cannot download because get_iplayer is determining that the program is not available because it has not yet been broadcast. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/programmes/schedules/this_week http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mbmzb A few minutes ago I got

RE: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Simon Morgan
-Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Ray West Sent: 31 October 2014 13:47 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: BBC messed up Hi, It seems that bbc have altered in the last couple of days, and getiplayer does

Re: We should be grateful ( was Re: A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
Download by PID is too finnicky. I never seem to be able to get it to work, and yes I have read the instructions. -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net Cambridge, UK On 31 Oct 2014, at 11:18, Chris Marriott ch...@chrism.demon.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: Owen Smith Sent:

Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 02:46:03PM +, Charles Coyle wrote: Please could you tell me, are there any instructions on how to do this aimed at a complete beginner as I'm new to the program? Here's what I now do: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-October/006299.html

Re: One case where PID does not work ( was A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread J K.Eason
*From:* Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer jn.ml.gti...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk *To:* get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org *Date:* Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:23:31 + artisticforge . artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote: Cannot download because get_iplayer is determining that the program is not available

Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread Owen Smith
Given the XML feed already discussed in other emails, I would have thought the short answer to can get_iplayer be fixed is yes it can. -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net Cambridge, UK On 31 Oct 2014, at 14:15, artisticforge . artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello the short answer is No.

Re: We should be grateful ( was Re: A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Chris Marriott
-Original Message- From: Owen Smith Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:44 PM To: get_iplayer Subject: Re: We should be grateful ( was Re: A message from Auntie ) Download by PID is too finnicky. I never seem to be able to get it to work, and yes I have read the instructions. What's

Re: BBC messed up

2014-10-31 Thread SquarePenguin
On 31 October 2014 14:46:03 GMT+00:00, Charles Coyle ccoyleli...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Please could you tell me, are there any instructions on how to do this aimed at a complete beginner as I'm new to the program? See here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/guides/ -- Sent from my Android

Re: One case where PID does not work ( was A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Carl Fletcher
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:54:00 -, J K.Eason m...@john-eason.co.uk wrote: PID works fine here Same here get_iplayer-2.87-1.1 openSUSE 13.1 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Timothy
Roger Bell_West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 09:08:26AM -, Trevor Campbell Davis wrote: It’s a pain, but I can easily manually source the PIDs of the programmes that I want on a daily basis. What I don’t want (or have time) to do is to manually enter single command

Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available

2014-10-31 Thread Chris Davies
Thank you, User Name. Here's another patch (from version 2.83) that fixes the BBC iPlayer feeds in the programme titles. In the sub generate_filenames, change one line from: $prog-{name} = $name if $name ! $prog-{name}; to $prog-{name} = $name if $name (! $prog-{name} ||

Re: A message from Auntie

2014-10-31 Thread Mark Carroll
Paul Oldham p...@the-hug.org writes: On 31/10/14 02:55, Dave Ford wrote: As posted on the BBC Internet blog - from Jon Billings: 'In particular, the BBC does not sanction XBMC, get_iplayer or similar clients, and the iPlayer RSS feeds were never designed or intended to support them. Nitro

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Macdonald
I have always just used the command line, but the last option seems best, it depends on how much effort is required to reverse engineer the API, though it is legal to reverse engineer in Europe, you may have a problem if you apply for a license and use that as a basis to engineer a solution, as it

Re: We should be grateful ( was Re: A message from Auntie )

2014-10-31 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 31 Oct 2014 at 10:53, Owen Smith Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net wrote: But BBC iPlayer Download insists I play the download on my PC. That's useless to me, my laptop has a small screen and isn't connected to my surround sound system. With get_iplayer I was copying the downloaded file

Information Overload on GiP Changes

2014-10-31 Thread Budgie
First my grateful thanks for the massive amount of work which dinkypumpkin and others have put into GiP. I have made constant use of --pvr facility, mainly for radio, over the last two years and am most grateful for the work which has brought my family and me a great deal of pleasure. I too

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014/10/31 21:21, Rob Dixon wrote: - Write a new application that uses the Nitro API, ostensibly to provide a different and more flexible way of viewing the BBC schedule, but capable of exporting the information for use in get_iplayer. This could even reconstruct the old XML RSS feeds, but

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 23:12 +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2014/10/31 21:21, Rob Dixon wrote: - Write a new application that uses the Nitro API, ostensibly to provide a different and more flexible way of viewing the BBC schedule, but capable of exporting the information for use in

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Budgie
On 31/10/14 21:21, Rob Dixon wrote: I apologise if this covers old ground. I have read most, but not all of the mail that has arisen from this situation. Three solutions to this situastion come to mind. From least to most attractive: - Scrape the BBC web site directly for the information that

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Ian Macdonald ianma...@gmail.com wrote: I have always just used the command line, but the last option seems best, it depends on how much effort is required to reverse engineer the API... The problem isn't the API, so far as I understand it. The problem is that any request has to include a 'key'.

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
The Nitro API is freely available to anyone who applies for a licence. There would be no reverse engineering involved. On 31/10/2014 21:38, Ian Macdonald wrote: I have always just used the command line, but the last option seems best, it depends on how much effort is required to reverse

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:42, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Ian Macdonald ianma...@gmail.com wrote: I have always just used the command line, but the last option seems best, it depends on how much effort is required to reverse engineer the API... The problem isn't the API, so far as I

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:12, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2014/10/31 21:21, Rob Dixon wrote: - Write a new application that uses the Nitro API, ostensibly to provide a different and more flexible way of viewing the BBC schedule, but capable of exporting the information for use in get_iplayer. This could

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:18, David Woodhouse wrote: Whether or not this could export something that would be useful to get_iplayer, it would be useful in itself. I've certainly used get_iplayer a few times to look for programmes of interest because the search facilities areslightly better than the

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:24, Budgie wrote: On 31/10/14 21:21, Rob Dixon wrote: - Write a new application that uses the Nitro API, ostensibly to provide a different and more flexible way of viewing the BBC schedule, but capable of exporting the information for use in get_iplayer. This could even

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:55, David Lake (dlake) wrote: Check the banner at the top of the page. Beta The BBC Developer site is currently open for registration to BBC Employees. Account requests from other users are not currently being activated. Please check back soon for more info. Then check

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote: There is a simple application form, which I filled in today, to get a licence for accessing the Nitro API, and there's no implication that there's a BBC-staff-only restriction. I'll keep people updated about what I hear back. On all three of:

Re: Information Overload on GiP Changes

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 31/10/2014 23:11, Budgie wrote: Also I see references to JSON. OK, JavaScript Object Notation but what does it mean to me and where does it fit in with GiP and BBC. I thought, in my ignorance, that JavaScript was going the way of the brown ball. Certainly I get grave warnings when it is

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread J K.Eason
There is a simple application form, which I filled in today, to get a licence for accessing the Nitro API, and there's no implication that there's a BBC-staff-only restriction. I'll keep people updated about what I hear back. The banner at the top of https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro says

Re: Solutions to loss of RSS feed

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 01/11/2014 00:03, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: On all three of: https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitropubliclicence https://developer.bbc.co.uk/content/nitro-quickstart I get a banner across the top of the page that says: The BBC Developer site is

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 31/10/2014 00:08, Steven Maude wrote: https://github.com/StevenMaude/nitroradical Thanks for that. From underneath 10,000 lines of Perl I gaze longingly at that lovely strictly-indented, sigil-less Python. It would take some time to populate the programme data. Scraping the index pages

get_iplayer repair update #1

2014-10-31 Thread dinkypumpkin
get_iplayer has been more or less repaired, but there are still some wounds. I'm going to release what I have on Sunday. I'm on the road next week, so I've run out of time to do more for the time being. Consider it a stopgap until progress can be made on other fronts. This is where things

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 01/11/2014 00:27, dinkypumpkin wrote: I tried this same approach, but it foundered on radio programmes. There is just too much stuff there. It's soul-crushingly slow to scrape the iPlayer Radio site, at least for a desktop cache. It would be great to have everything available on iPlayer

RE: get_iplayer repair update #1

2014-10-31 Thread David Lake (dlake)
Wireshark MAY tell you that they're using the Nitro API with a defined key I couldn't possibly comment though. -Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Steven Maude Sent: 31 October 2014 18:08 To: get_iplayer Subject: Re:

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Maude
On 01/11/2014 01:09, Rob Dixon wrote: I would use the BBC server to do the search for me, after which there is little work to be done. For instance, if I look for all Book at Bedtime episodes with this URL http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/book%20at%20bedtime/player then I am taken

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 01/11/2014 01:29, Steven Maude wrote: At a glance, robots.txt doesn't seem to disallow accessing the sections needed. In the terms of use, there is this though: (d) You agree to use BBC Online Services and access, download, view and/or listen to BBC Content as supplied to you by the BBC and

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Rob Dixon
On 01/11/2014 00:27, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 31/10/2014 00:08, Steven Maude wrote: https://github.com/StevenMaude/nitroradical Thanks for that. From underneath 10,000 lines of Perl I gaze longingly at that lovely strictly-indented, sigil-less Python. I also think there could be some mileage

Re: get_iplayer repair update #1

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
dinkypumpkin dinkypump...@gmail.com wrote: get_iplayer has been more or less repaired, but there are still some wounds. I'm going to release what I have on Sunday This is excellent news, and I have to say I'm impressed by the amount you've managed to do in such a short time. (I realise

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote: I'm no lawyer, but on the face of it I would say we're clear. as supplied to you by the BBC says to me that it mustn't be modified, not that it mustn't be stored. We already all store this stuff in browser caches when using the website as normal. -- Jeremy

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Maude
On 01/11/2014 00:27, dinkypumpkin wrote: Thanks for that. From underneath 10,000 lines of Perl I gaze longingly at that lovely strictly-indented, sigil-less Python. Python is really easy to use, though not everyone loves the indentation! You wouldn't necessarily need to drill all the way

Re: Proof-of-concept scraper for iPlayer web frontend TV data to JSON

2014-10-31 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 01/11/2014 02:01, Steven Maude wrote: Finally, Rob's suggestion in this thread of using BBC search is a great one. It means you don't need to scrape the whole thing, though you'd have a short, acceptable wait for each search to run; that might be the way to go, unless there are compelling