Re: Available: Yes, Prime Minister, The Tangled Web.
Please see below ... On 16/02/2020 11:14, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, I've deleted the emails from the earlier thread discussing PID b037tb14 being unavailable. I agree, it was then. In another periodic run of my PVR queue, it downloaded. Duration: 00:28:15.04, start: 0.00, bitrate: 247 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (Main) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, bt470bg), 960x540 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 1597 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc (default) Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (HE-AAC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s (default) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 matches this with a ‘Watch now’. The thread starts with MacFH at http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2020-February/012683.html Yes, thanks, I'd already discovered that when it downloaded automatically for me to, but when I tried to alert the group about it, I got the following reply: Your mail to 'get_iplayer' with the subject Re: No Prime Minister? Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has a suspicious header Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/confirm/get_iplayer/bbf08ac219873b5da575728b40381a550cd7b10f I've heard of others receiving such blocks, but have not previously had the problem myself, and the only thing that might have changed is that Thunderbird has updated itself a few times recently. If anyone can make sense of the problem, here's the source code of my original mail: From - Fri Feb 14 21:49:52 2020 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla-Keys: To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane Subject: Re: No Prime Minister? Message-ID: <028e46a1-9455-cfaf-8e95-0f2918ca3...@macfh.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:49:49 + User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Suddenly this has become available: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Available: Yes, Prime Minister, The Tangled Web.
Hi Ralph Thanks for pointing that out. If anyone wants it with 128kbit/s AAC-LC audio you can additionally download --tvmode=hvfhigh --audio-only and merge it with the hvfxsd download using ffmpeg -map Best wishes Richard On 16/02/2020 11:14, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, I've deleted the emails from the earlier thread discussing PID b037tb14 being unavailable. I agree, it was then. In another periodic run of my PVR queue, it downloaded. Duration: 00:28:15.04, start: 0.00, bitrate: 247 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (Main) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, bt470bg), 960x540 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 1597 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc (default) Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (HE-AAC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s (default) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 matches this with a ‘Watch now’. The thread starts with MacFH at http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2020-February/012683.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Available: Yes, Prime Minister, The Tangled Web.
Hi, I've deleted the emails from the earlier thread discussing PID b037tb14 being unavailable. I agree, it was then. In another periodic run of my PVR queue, it downloaded. Duration: 00:28:15.04, start: 0.00, bitrate: 247 kb/s Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (Main) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, bt470bg), 960x540 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 1597 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc (default) Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (HE-AAC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s (default) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 matches this with a ‘Watch now’. The thread starts with MacFH at http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2020-February/012683.html -- Cheers, Ralph. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Thanks, it's a kind thought, but, as others have pointed out, I'd better say no thanks. On 07/02/2020 09:26, Sharon Kimble wrote: I have both complete series (Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) which I can make available if we can work out how to get them to you. I think that I would probably zip them up into an archive, and then just provide a link to download them from one of my websites for a limited period. So, please let me know if you're interested or just want one episode? Thanks Sharon. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 07/02/2020 10:02, Roger Bell_West wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 09:26:34AM +, Sharon Kimble wrote: I have both complete series (Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) which I can make available if we can work out how to get them to you. Given the heavy-handedness of many copyright enforcers, please don't make such offers on a public list, or the owner may get hassled for "facilitating piracy". ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer I'm with the rights holders, why should people get this work for nothing ? Buy the dvds. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 09:26:34AM +, Sharon Kimble wrote: >I have both complete series (Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) which >I can make available if we can work out how to get them to you. Given the heavy-handedness of many copyright enforcers, please don't make such offers on a public list, or the owner may get hassled for "facilitating piracy". ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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CJB writes: > Try a Google search for torrent sites - they are all out there. CJB > > On 05/02/2020, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: >> Please see below ... >> >> On 05/02/2020 13:31, Mark Goodge wrote: >>> Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more >>> problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there >>> was no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission >>> rights for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other >>> distribution method, at the time, would have been home video, and the >>> rights to that were often negotiated separately so that those involved >>> in the production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is >>> neither home video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the >>> original contracts. >> >> I see, bit of a bummer, but thanks for the explanation. Certainly, it >> does seem counter-intuitive and somewhat ridiculous that we can't >> download such an old but popular series. I loved both Yes Minister and >> Yes Prime Minister, but have none of them recorded. >> I have both complete series (Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister) which I can make available if we can work out how to get them to you. I think that I would probably zip them up into an archive, and then just provide a link to download them from one of my websites for a limited period. So, please let me know if you're interested or just want one episode? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 10.2, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 26.3, org 9.3.3 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 23:17:46 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: >> Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more >> problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there >> was no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission >> rights for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other >> distribution method, at the time, would have been home video, and the >> rights to that were often negotiated separately so that those involved >> in the production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is >> neither home video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the >> original contracts. > > I see, bit of a bummer, but thanks for the explanation. Certainly, it > does seem counter-intuitive and somewhat ridiculous that we can't > download such an old but popular series. I loved both Yes Minister and > Yes Prime Minister, but have none of them recorded. Both available as boxed sets on DVD... aka "home video". B-) -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Try a Google search for torrent sites - they are all out there. CJB On 05/02/2020, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Please see below ... > > On 05/02/2020 13:31, Mark Goodge wrote: >> Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more >> problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there >> was no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission >> rights for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other >> distribution method, at the time, would have been home video, and the >> rights to that were often negotiated separately so that those involved >> in the production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is >> neither home video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the >> original contracts. > > I see, bit of a bummer, but thanks for the explanation. Certainly, it > does seem counter-intuitive and somewhat ridiculous that we can't > download such an old but popular series. I loved both Yes Minister and > Yes Prime Minister, but have none of them recorded. > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Please see below ... On 05/02/2020 13:31, Mark Goodge wrote: Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there was no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission rights for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other distribution method, at the time, would have been home video, and the rights to that were often negotiated separately so that those involved in the production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is neither home video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the original contracts. I see, bit of a bummer, but thanks for the explanation. Certainly, it does seem counter-intuitive and somewhat ridiculous that we can't download such an old but popular series. I loved both Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister, but have none of them recorded. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
YouTube? CJB ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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Sorry about multiple posts - Pret wifi stalled. CJB ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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Sorry about multiple posts - Pret wifi stalled. CJB On 05/02/2020, CJB wrote: > Ditto - Lines from my Grandfather's Forehaead. > > The Beeb has currently aired 'shortened' versions of most episodes > from series 1 and 2. > > Series 3 is still with Keith Wickham - the Beeb isn't interested. > > However the Beeb has not aired S01E01 / S0103 / S02E04 since about the > late 1900s. This is due to copyright restrictions from contributors. > I've heard that Harold Pinter is one. > > Quite simply the Beeb cannot or wont obtain permission to re-air various > items. > > Another case in point in the Christmas Special from 1971. At the end > is a Dylan Thomas spoof. But not anymore - this was edited out many > years ago. > > BTW if anyone has older versions - or even any versions - of the > missing episodes we'd love to hear from you. > > CJB > > > > On 05/02/2020, Mark Goodge wrote: >> >> >> On 05/02/2020 10:35, Dave Liquorice wrote: >>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:57:16 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: >>> Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. >>> >>> Depends on the rights the BBC obtained, or could obtain or can obtain, >>> for >>> anything included in that episode. Incidental music, "guest" >>> actor/actress, >>> etc... >> >> Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more >> problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there was >> no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission rights >> for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other distribution >> method, at the time, would have been home video, and the rights to that >> were often negotiated separately so that those involved in the >> production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is neither home >> video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the original >> contracts. >> >> Mark >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Ditto - Lines from my Grandfather's Forehaead. The Beeb has currently aired 'shortened' versions of most episodes from series 1 and 2. Series 3 is still with Keith Wickham - the Beeb isn't interested. However the Beeb has not aired S01E01 / S0103 / S02E04 since about the late 1900s. This is due to copyright restrictions from contributors. I've heard that Harold Pinter is one. Quite simply the Beeb cannot or wont obtain permission to re-air various items. Another case in point in the Christmas Special from 1971. At the end is a Dylan Thomas spoof. But not anymore - this was edited out many years ago. BTW if anyone has older versions - or even any versions - of the missing episodes we'd love to hear from you. CJB On 05/02/2020, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 05/02/2020 10:35, Dave Liquorice wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:57:16 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: >> >>> Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own >>> BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and >>> wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. >> >> Depends on the rights the BBC obtained, or could obtain or can obtain, >> for >> anything included in that episode. Incidental music, "guest" >> actor/actress, >> etc... > > Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more > problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there was > no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission rights > for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other distribution > method, at the time, would have been home video, and the rights to that > were often negotiated separately so that those involved in the > production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is neither home > video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the original contracts. > > Mark > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Ditto - Lines from my Grandfather's Forehaead. The Beeb has currently aired 'shortened' versipns of most episodes from series 1 and 2. Series 3 is still with Keith Wickham - the Beeb issn't interested. However the Beeb has not aired S01E01 / S0103 / S02E04 since about the late 1900s. This is due to copyright restrictions from contibutors. I've heard that Harold Pinter is one. Quite simply the Beeb cannot or wont obtain permission to air various items. Another case in point in the Christmas Special from 1971. At the end is a Dylan Thomas spoof. But not anymore - this was edited out many years ago. BTW if anyone has older versions - or even any versions - of the missing episodes we'd love to hear from you. CJB On 05/02/2020, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 05/02/2020 10:35, Dave Liquorice wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:57:16 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: >> >>> Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own >>> BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and >>> wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. >> >> Depends on the rights the BBC obtained, or could obtain or can obtain, >> for >> anything included in that episode. Incidental music, "guest" >> actor/actress, >> etc... > > Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more > problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there was > no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission rights > for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other distribution > method, at the time, would have been home video, and the rights to that > were often negotiated separately so that those involved in the > production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is neither home > video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the original contracts. > > Mark > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
On 05/02/2020 10:35, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:57:16 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. Depends on the rights the BBC obtained, or could obtain or can obtain, for anything included in that episode. Incidental music, "guest" actor/actress, etc... Older stuff can, possibly a little counter-intuitively, be more problematic than recent material, as, at the time it was made, there was no expectation that the BBC would ever want repeat transmission rights for anything other than broadcast TV. The only other distribution method, at the time, would have been home video, and the rights to that were often negotiated separately so that those involved in the production could get their cut there, too. Since iPlayer is neither home video nor broadcast, there's nothing to cover it in the original contracts. Mark ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:57:16 +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own > BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and > wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. Depends on the rights the BBC obtained, or could obtain or can obtain, for anything included in that episode. Incidental music, "guest" actor/actress, etc... -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Please see below ... On 05/02/2020 09:28, Don Grunbaum wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane >> To: >> Sent: 04/02/2020 21:49:16 >> Subject: Re: No Prime Minister? >> >> >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 > > As the BBC say (paraphrasing), not all programmes are available on iPlayer. This is generally for contractual reasons. It seems that this is one of those programmes that aren't available. It has applied (for example) to old Monty Python programmes in the past. > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer Thanks, but I knew that, and it seems to me rather strange that an own BBC 30 years' old series should be subject to such a constraint, and wondered if anyone happened to know anything more specific. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
- Original Message - From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane To: Sent: 04/02/2020 21:49:16 Subject: Re: No Prime Minister? Sorry, meant to include a link to the programme page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 On 04/02/2020 21:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Does anyone happen to know why the episode of Yes, Prime Minster shown > a couple of days ago can not be downloaded? > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer As the BBC say (paraphrasing), not all programmes are available on iPlayer. This is generally for contractual reasons. It seems that this is one of those programmes that aren't available. It has applied (for example) to old Monty Python programmes in the past. HTH Don ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Prime Minister?
Sorry, meant to include a link to the programme page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037tb14 On 04/02/2020 21:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Does anyone happen to know why the episode of Yes, Prime Minster shown a couple of days ago can not be downloaded? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
No Prime Minister?
Does anyone happen to know why the episode of Yes, Prime Minster shown a couple of days ago can not be downloaded? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
