Re: PROBLEM DOWNLOADING BBC RADIO PROGRAMMES

2023-03-30 Thread david


Yes, I had to update mine about the same time. For Windows see...

https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/windows

for installation instructions. As you can see below I can get help by 
typing


get-iplayer --help

or on your system probably

get_iplayer --help

I'm not running on Windows, but this is my output for versions 3.02 (not 
working) and 3.31 which is working fine.



get_iplayer --pid=m001jtc0 --type=radio
get_iplayer v3.02, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain

  conditions; use --conditions for details.

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
INFO: radio episode PID detected (m001jtc0)
INFO: Trying to download PID: m001jtc0 using type: radio
INFO: PID not found in cache: m001jtc0
INFO: 0 matching programmes
WARNING: No media streams found for requested programme versions and 
recording modes.


get-iplayer --pid=m001jtc0 --type=radio
get_iplayer v3.31, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain

  conditions; use --conditions for details.


Episodes:
Record Review - Saint-Saëns's Carnival of the Animals in Building a 
Library with Sarah Devonald and Andrew McGregor, BBC Radio 3, m001jtc0

INFO: 1 total programmes

INFO: Downloading radio: 'Record Review - Saint-Saëns's Carnival of the 
Animals in Building a Library with Sarah Devonald and Andrew McGregor 
(m001jtc0) [original]'

INFO: Downloaded: 128.51 MB (02:48:00) @ 2.04 Mb/s (hlsmed1/bi) [audio]
INFO: Converting to M4A
INFO: Tagging M4A

get-iplayer --help
get_iplayer v3.31, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain

  conditions; use --conditions for details.

Usage ( Also see 
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/documentation ):



get-iplayer --basic-help
get_iplayer v3.31, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain

  conditions; use --conditions for details.

Usage ( Also see 
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/documentation ):






On 2023-03-30 17:23, GRAHAM Holliday wrote:
I've been using get_iplayer for years, exclusively for downloading BBC 
radio programmes, and it's always worked fine. But since early March, 
I've not been able to do so. When I type in a request, such as


get_iplayer --pid=m001jtc0 --type=radio ,

I get the message:  WARNING: No media streams found for requested 
programme versions and recording modes .


This happens when I try any programme broadcast after about March 7th - 
the date may be slightly different - but I can still download 
programmes from earlier dates.


Any ideas?  I'm using a laptop with Windows 10, by the way, and I'm not 
great generally with IT. There's probably a simple answer, like needing 
to install a later version of get_iplayer, but I don't know how to do 
that...


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Re: Fwd: Re: output format

2023-03-30 Thread fred.d

...and the final post process command for Windows was:

    --pid=12345678  --command-radio "ffmpeg -i \"""\" -c:a 
copy \""\.m4a"\" && del \"""\""



or when set in options file it became:

    commandradio ffmpeg -i "" -c:a copy 
"\.m4a" && del ""


which just allows me to type

    get_iplayer --pid=12345678

whether it's a video or an audio.

thanks again.

On 29/03/2023 11:05, fred.d wrote:

Well, that was an interesting diversion.

Having seen your post processing commands, I thought I'd see if I 
could put these in the options file as my aim is just to type "gip 
pid" followed by series or individual PID lists and let gip produce 
the outputs that I want.

Indeed you can have commands in the options file.

Next I thought - this is daft, if I'm preserving .ts just for video, I 
could try to switch it the other way and post process the video and 
allow the radio to come down on MP3 or M4A. should be even simpler and 
less conversion. So I scrapped the force TS option as a first step and 
sure enough audio came down as M4A.
...except it didn't! I happened to have the target directory open when 
I tried another sounds file and noticed that it downloads the radio 
stuff as a .ts then converts.


Now given that video comes down as M4A and M4V, then gets converted to 
.TS before it gets converted to .MP4 I've gone back to the original 
logic and restored force .TS as that actually gives me minimal 
conversion on video. I assume TS to MP4 is lossless and it's a 
container swap but it takes time and as previously stated I prefer to 
edit .ts anyway.
...and I'll post process the audio manually using a command in the 
options file as I don't really want that as .ts for audio.


Anyway, thanks for your assistance.


On 28/03/2023 16:35, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:

On 28/03/2023 15:43, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


Tch!  Both Fred and then myself forgot to reply to all ...

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: output format
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:13:58 +0100
From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
To: fred.d 

On 27/03/2023 18:54, fred.d wrote:


On 27/03/2023 18:22, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


On 27/03/2023 17:56, fred.d wrote:


Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. 
Result is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files 
unless I override the command line with --raw when downloading 
audio :-(


What command-line option are you using to set this?


options config file:  mpegts 1


Equivalent to ...

--mpeg-ts Ensure raw audio and video files are re-muxed into 
MPEG-TS file regardless of stream format. Overrides --raw.


Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format 
separately from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all 
the options I have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Difficult to say without knowing how you set the preference in the 
first place.


I think you have two options.  The following examples use "Bells On 
Sunday" (radio) and weather forecasts (TV) as being conveniently 
short programmes with correspondingly small download sizes to test 
with. Also, make sure you read the notes below before trying 
anything out:


1.  Leave the option --mpeg-ts as is, but add an additional 
post-download option for audio files using --command-radio to 
convert the download to m4a (or any other audio format of your 
choice).  The downside of this is that it may sometimes mean 
converting audio files twice, depending on the format of the 
original download.


Example:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


Not sure how this happened when cutting & pasting but every example 
is missing a closing single quote just before the closing double 
quote, as follows:

del ''" [<-here]

So the above should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


2.  Remove that option altogether and use the --raw option instead, 
and give different --command-radio and --command-tv options to get 
the two different types into the respective end formats required. 
This should ensure that each type only gets converted once.


Examples:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del '" --type tv --tv-quality sd 
--pid m001kjpf --raw -g


As above, should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del ''" --type tv --tv-quality sd 
--pid m001kjpf --raw -g


Sorry about that.


IMPORTANT!  Notes:

Firstly, note that unless you want to keep the originally downloaded 
file as well as the converted file, you have to include a command to 
delete it, the double ampersand means that the del command only 
happens 

Re: PROBLEM DOWNLOADING BBC RADIO PROGRAMMES

2023-03-30 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 30/03/2023 17:23, GRAHAM Holliday wrote:


get_iplayer --pid=m001jtc0 --type=radio ,


Downloads here alright with get_iplayer v3.30, but note that there's a 
trailing comma in your command line, and you don't usually need equals 
signs, but I don't think either of those would be showstoppers.


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PROBLEM DOWNLOADING BBC RADIO PROGRAMMES

2023-03-30 Thread GRAHAM Holliday
I've been using get_iplayer for years, exclusively for downloading BBC 
radio programmes, and it's always worked fine. But since early March, 
I've not been able to do so. When I type in a request, such as


get_iplayer --pid=m001jtc0 --type=radio ,

I get the message:  WARNING: No media streams found for requested 
programme versions and recording modes .


This happens when I try any programme broadcast after about March 7th - 
the date may be slightly different - but I can still download programmes 
from earlier dates.


Any ideas?  I'm using a laptop with Windows 10, by the way, and I'm not 
great generally with IT. There's probably a simple answer, like needing 
to install a later version of get_iplayer, but I don't know how to do 
that...


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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-29 Thread Jim web
In article <0e7c66ab-afe7-57fa-5234-808c2a97b...@timelords.org.uk>, fred.d
 wrote:
> If you liked Fortran, then you should have tried PASCAL. Sure it needed
> some extensions but it was simple and it was very hard to write bad
> code.

I find it easy to write terrible code. Comes naturally. I just stop digging
when it does the job. As the French (almost) say, "It's not magnificent,
it's a railway station". 8-]

My 1st machine was an ICL 1900. But once it arrived I *much* preferred a
BBC B. Not a fan of BBC Basic, but it was OK until later machines with
FORTRAN and C compilers came along for later 'Acorn' machines. Still typing
this on a machine running modern RISC OS. :-)


> Sorry, bit off topic I know but it's horrible weather outside...

Actually, its a decent day here. Need much less heating than a few days
ago!

Jim

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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-29 Thread fred.d
If you liked Fortran, then you should have tried PASCAL. Sure it needed 
some extensions but it was simple and it was very hard to write bad code.
A very good contractor wrote an assembler/OS interface to Pascal for us 
on a PDP 11 (about 200 lines of code). That allowed us to create a 
duplexed (failover cluster) production line control system in 1983 
written in PASCAL. It also interfaced to some IBM mainframe (harder) and 
a VAX (any youngsters, that's not the sucky thing, look it up).
I can still remember carrying the disk backups on a plane each week with 
the necessary import and export documentation. Case had special 
dispensation to be carry on luggage as it was as big as a small suitcase 
(foam padding) but couldn't go in the hold. Total capacity of that case 
2MB!


... but back to PASCAL all my code has a very familiar structure no 
matter which of the myriad languages I've played with over the years so 
I know what you mean.


Sorry, bit off topic I know but it's horrible weather outside...



On 29/03/2023 11:09, Jim web wrote:

In article <809b079f-cc32-2027-f825-520c77614...@macfh.co.uk>, MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane - News  wrote:

On 28/03/2023 15:51, Jim web wrote:
Sorry to hear about your wife, commiserations to you both.

In article , MacFH
- C E Macfarlane - News  wrote:

Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type: python --version

If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for: pip --help

It gives me  Python 2.7.17

However if I look in usr/lib/ I can see directories for Python 2.7, 3,
3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.

Different versions of Java,

FWIW I did once try learning and using Java. Gave up after a while because
by the time I'd written anything the methods became 'deprecated' as the
caravan morphed on at superluminal speed! 8-[

So I've stuck with my shoddy use of 'C'. No style, just: "does this give me
the coconut?!" 8-] Oh well, at least I've stopped using FORTRAN. Although
people who know both can see that my 'C' looks like "FORTRAN in
disguise"...

(snipped useful info)

When I can, I'll try again to install the new yt-dlp version again from
scratch. Use a different tack and see. If it doesn't work, I'll give up and
do something else.

Jim




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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-29 Thread Jim web
In article <809b079f-cc32-2027-f825-520c77614...@macfh.co.uk>, MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane - News  wrote:
> On 28/03/2023 15:51, Jim web wrote:
> >

> Sorry to hear about your wife, commiserations to you both.

> > In article , MacFH
> > - C E Macfarlane - News  wrote:
> >>
> >> Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type: python --version
> >>
> >> If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for: pip --help
> > 
> > It gives me  Python 2.7.17
> > 
> > However if I look in usr/lib/ I can see directories for Python 2.7, 3,
> > 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.

> Different versions of Java, 

FWIW I did once try learning and using Java. Gave up after a while because
by the time I'd written anything the methods became 'deprecated' as the
caravan morphed on at superluminal speed! 8-[

So I've stuck with my shoddy use of 'C'. No style, just: "does this give me
the coconut?!" 8-] Oh well, at least I've stopped using FORTRAN. Although
people who know both can see that my 'C' looks like "FORTRAN in
disguise"...

(snipped useful info)

When I can, I'll try again to install the new yt-dlp version again from
scratch. Use a different tack and see. If it doesn't work, I'll give up and
do something else.

Jim

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Re: Fwd: Re: output format

2023-03-29 Thread fred.d

Well, that was an interesting diversion.

Having seen your post processing commands, I thought I'd see if I could 
put these in the options file as my aim is just to type "gip pid" 
followed by series or individual PID lists and let gip produce the 
outputs that I want.

Indeed you can have commands in the options file.

Next I thought - this is daft, if I'm preserving .ts just for video, I 
could try to switch it the other way and post process the video and 
allow the radio to come down on MP3 or M4A. should be even simpler and 
less conversion. So I scrapped the force TS option as a first step and 
sure enough audio came down as M4A.
...except it didn't! I happened to have the target directory open when I 
tried another sounds file and noticed that it downloads the radio stuff 
as a .ts then converts.


Now given that video comes down as M4A and M4V, then gets converted to 
.TS before it gets converted to .MP4 I've gone back to the original 
logic and restored force .TS as that actually gives me minimal 
conversion on video. I assume TS to MP4 is lossless and it's a container 
swap but it takes time and as previously stated I prefer to edit .ts anyway.
...and I'll post process the audio manually using a command in the 
options file as I don't really want that as .ts for audio.


Anyway, thanks for your assistance.


On 28/03/2023 16:35, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:

On 28/03/2023 15:43, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


Tch!  Both Fred and then myself forgot to reply to all ...

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: output format
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:13:58 +0100
From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
To: fred.d 

On 27/03/2023 18:54, fred.d wrote:


On 27/03/2023 18:22, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


On 27/03/2023 17:56, fred.d wrote:


Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. 
Result is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files 
unless I override the command line with --raw when downloading 
audio :-(


What command-line option are you using to set this?


options config file:  mpegts 1


Equivalent to ...

--mpeg-ts Ensure raw audio and video files are re-muxed into 
MPEG-TS file regardless of stream format. Overrides --raw.


Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format 
separately from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all 
the options I have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Difficult to say without knowing how you set the preference in the 
first place.


I think you have two options.  The following examples use "Bells On 
Sunday" (radio) and weather forecasts (TV) as being conveniently 
short programmes with correspondingly small download sizes to test 
with. Also, make sure you read the notes below before trying anything 
out:


1.  Leave the option --mpeg-ts as is, but add an additional 
post-download option for audio files using --command-radio to convert 
the download to m4a (or any other audio format of your choice).  The 
downside of this is that it may sometimes mean converting audio files 
twice, depending on the format of the original download.


Example:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


Not sure how this happened when cutting & pasting but every example is 
missing a closing single quote just before the closing double quote, 
as follows:

del ''" [<-here]

So the above should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


2.  Remove that option altogether and use the --raw option instead, 
and give different --command-radio and --command-tv options to get 
the two different types into the respective end formats required.  
This should ensure that each type only gets converted once.


Examples:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del '" --type tv --tv-quality sd --pid 
m001kjpf --raw -g


As above, should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' 
&& del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del ''" --type tv --tv-quality sd --pid 
m001kjpf --raw -g


Sorry about that.


IMPORTANT!  Notes:

Firstly, note that unless you want to keep the originally downloaded 
file as well as the converted file, you have to include a command to 
delete it, the double ampersand means that the del command only 
happens if the ffmpeg command didn't produce an error code when 
making the conversion.  The command is for a Windows set up, you'd 
use rm instead of DEL on a Linux system.


Secondly, the above FFMPEG commands are greatly simplified from the 
original commands that GiP would have fed to FFMPEG without the 
--mpeg-ts or --raw options being specified, which may be why the 
video one above corresponding to 

Re: modes=good gone?

2023-03-29 Thread Chris Walker
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:06:52 +0100
Chris Brady  wrote:

> Damn it this still produces a 700KB file ...
> 
> >get_iplayer --pid m001kdwp --tv-quality web --subtitles --overwrite

That's because you've specified web quality.

Look at the info for that pid and you'll see this :-
qualitysizes:original:
fhd=3726MB,hd=2356MB,sd=1333MB,web=770MB,mobile=242MB [estimated sizes]

In my prefs file I have this :-
tvmode = fhd,hd,sd,web,mobile,default

So specify something along those lines and you won't end up with a 700k
file.

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Re: modes=good gone?

2023-03-28 Thread Chris Brady
Damn it this still produces a 700KB file ...

>get_iplayer --pid m001kdwp --tv-quality web --subtitles --overwrite

CJB

On 28/03/2023, Chris Brady  wrote:
> Hmm - so I ended up with
>
>>get_iplayer --pid m001kxyz --tv-quality sd --subtitles --overwrite
>> --tv-lower-bitrate
>
> and the file is 700KB
>
> But I don't understand the value 'web' for --tv-quality, and yet 'sd'
> is not commnsurate with modes=good
>
> CJB
>


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Re: modes=good gone?

2023-03-28 Thread Chris Brady
Hmm - so I ended up with

>get_iplayer --pid m001kxyz --tv-quality sd --subtitles --overwrite 
>--tv-lower-bitrate

and the file is 700KB

But I don't understand the value 'web' for --tv-quality, and yet 'sd'
is not commnsurate with modes=good

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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-28 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 28/03/2023 15:51, Jim web wrote:




Sorry to hear about your wife, commiserations to you both.

In article , 
MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News  wrote:


Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type:
python --version

If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for:
pip --help


It gives me  Python 2.7.17

However if I look in usr/lib/ I can see directories for Python
2.7, 3, 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.


Different versions of Java, Perl, and Python can be a right royal PITA 
-  seemingly endless updates seem to require anything based on them that 
you are using needing programs to be rewritten and/or recompiled.


If you have a genuine need for different versions as opposed to having 
arrived with multiple versions merely by happenstance, one possible 
workaround is to have some means of determining the default version for 
a given shell instance.  For example, in Unbuntu 18, I get ...


# which python
/usr/bin/python
# ls -al /usr/bin/python
/usr/bin/python->python2.7

... and ...

# ls -al /usr/bin/python*

... is also quite instructive, but would be overkill to transcribe in 
its entirety here!


This gives the possibility of a given shell instance pointing that link 
to whichever version of python that it needs, either directly or via an 
environment variable, as it launches ...


# ln -s -f /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python

... or ...

# export PYTH_VER=2.7
# ln -s -f /usr/bin/python${PYTH_VER} /usr/bin/python

... however, although I have seen it done this way, I DON'T RECOMMEND 
IT, because if you have two shells running simultaneously requiring 
different versions of python [the rest of this sentence is left as an 
exercise to the programmer]!


Better is to use a different alias within each shell ...

# python --version
Python 2.7.17
# alias python=/usr/bin/python3.6
# python --version
Python 3.6.9

If this works, fine, but if, say, more than one change to the 
environment is needed, perhaps because the PATH or LIB variables need to 
include the directories for a different versions of Python or some such, 
then use an environment variable in all the settings so that between 
different shells you have to change only the value of that:


# python --version
Python 3.6.9
# export PYTH_VER=2.7
# alias python=/usr/bin/python${PYTH_VER}
# python --version
Python 2.7.17

HTHs


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Re: modes=good gone?

2023-03-28 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 28/03/2023 15:56, Chris Brady wrote:


Am trying to download tv using modes=good for low res. but adequate 
watchable quality


However this is not now working and I am getting the default of HD with 
2GB file sizes


I only want files about 300KB in lo res

What do I use now? Thank you.


Mode settings have been replaced by quality settings, as follows:

--quality ,,...
TV and radio recording quality preference.  See --tv-quality and 
--radio-quality for available values and defaults. Default: default for 
programme type.


--radio-quality ,,...
Radio recording quality preference (overrides --quality): 
high,std,med,low,default (Aliases: 320k,128k,96k,48k). Comma-delimited 
list in descending order of preference. Default: high,std,med,low.


--tv-lower-bitrate, --tvlbr
Prefer 25fps (or lower-bitrate 50fps) streams for TV programmes if 
available.


--tv-quality ,,...
TV recording quality preference (overrides --quality): 
fhd,hd,sd,web,mobile,default (Aliases: 1080p,720p,540p,396p,288p). 
Comma-delimited list in descending order of preference. Default: 
hd,sd,web,mobile


For further help, use the --helplong switch.

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Re: Fwd: Re: output format

2023-03-28 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 28/03/2023 15:43, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


Tch!  Both Fred and then myself forgot to reply to all ...

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: output format
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:13:58 +0100
From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
To: fred.d 

On 27/03/2023 18:54, fred.d wrote:


On 27/03/2023 18:22, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


On 27/03/2023 17:56, fred.d wrote:


Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. 
Result is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files unless 
I override the command line with --raw when downloading audio :-(


What command-line option are you using to set this?


options config file:  mpegts 1


Equivalent to ...

--mpeg-ts Ensure raw audio and video files are re-muxed into MPEG-TS 
file regardless of stream format. Overrides --raw.


Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format 
separately from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all 
the options I have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Difficult to say without knowing how you set the preference in the 
first place.


I think you have two options.  The following examples use "Bells On 
Sunday" (radio) and weather forecasts (TV) as being conveniently short 
programmes with correspondingly small download sizes to test with. Also, 
make sure you read the notes below before trying anything out:


1.  Leave the option --mpeg-ts as is, but add an additional 
post-download option for audio files using --command-radio to convert 
the download to m4a (or any other audio format of your choice).  The 
downside of this is that it may sometimes mean converting audio files 
twice, depending on the format of the original download.


Example:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


Not sure how this happened when cutting & pasting but every example is 
missing a closing single quote just before the closing double quote, as 
follows:

del ''" [<-here]

So the above should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


2.  Remove that option altogether and use the --raw option instead, and 
give different --command-radio and --command-tv options to get the two 
different types into the respective end formats required.  This should 
ensure that each type only gets converted once.


Examples:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del '" --type tv --tv-quality sd --pid 
m001kjpf --raw -g


As above, should have read:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del ''" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del ''" --type tv --tv-quality sd --pid 
m001kjpf --raw -g


Sorry about that.


IMPORTANT!  Notes:

Firstly, note that unless you want to keep the originally downloaded 
file as well as the converted file, you have to include a command to 
delete it, the double ampersand means that the del command only happens 
if the ffmpeg command didn't produce an error code when making the 
conversion.  The command is for a Windows set up, you'd use rm instead 
of DEL on a Linux system.


Secondly, the above FFMPEG commands are greatly simplified from the 
original commands that GiP would have fed to FFMPEG without the 
--mpeg-ts or --raw options being specified, which may be why the video 
one above corresponding to 2 below gave an avalanche of 'Invalid DTS' 
messages that don't occur when you let GiP do the job.  As the weather 
video played back alright, I didn't bother to investigate that further.


1) ffmpeg -loglevel fatal -stats -y -i "\Bells On Sunday - 
Cathedral Church Of St Mary The Virgin With St Paul In Blackburn 
Lancashire.hls.ts" "-c:v" copy "-c:a" copy "-bsf:a" aac_adtstoasc 
-movflags faststart "\Bells On Sunday - Cathedral Church Of St 
Mary The Virgin With St Paul In Blackburn Lancashire.partial.m4a"


2) ffmpeg -loglevel fatal -stats -y -i "\Weather For The Week 
Ahead - 2023-03-27.hls.ts" "-c:v" copy "-c:a" copy "-bsf:a" 
aac_adtstoasc -movflags faststart "\Weather For The Week Ahead - 
2023-03-27.partial.mp4"


Thirdly, the available substitution parameters to use in the filenames 
are here, but not all will have values in all circumstances, for example 
 was empty when I tried it


https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/subparams

Lastly, I know that once upon another life in some obscure case I tried 
to use a post-download command before, but struggled with it for hours, 
and now can't remember whether actually I ever even got it to work!  A 
significant part of the problem was that, as above, you need to put some 
parameters in quotes, for example filenames with spaces, but they tend 
to get stripped off by GetIPlayer when it feeds the quoted 

Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-28 Thread Jim web
In article , MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane - News  wrote:
> > Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type: python
> >  --version
> > 
> > If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for: pip
> > --help

It gives me  Python 2.7.17

However if I look in usr/lib/ I can see directories for Python
2.7, 3, 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8.

When I get a chance I'll go back to the beginning and re-install (or try
to) the current version of yt-dlp. I usually cheat and make it local, but
will try and install as normally described.

Jim

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Fwd: Re: output format

2023-03-28 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

Tch!  Both Fred and then myself forgot to reply to all ...


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: output format
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 01:13:58 +0100
From: MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
To: fred.d 

On 27/03/2023 18:54, fred.d wrote:


On 27/03/2023 18:22, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


On 27/03/2023 17:56, fred.d wrote:


Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. 
Result is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files unless 
I override the command line with --raw when downloading audio :-(


What command-line option are you using to set this?


options config file:  mpegts 1


Equivalent to ...

--mpeg-ts Ensure raw audio and video files are re-muxed into MPEG-TS 
file regardless of stream format. Overrides --raw.


Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format 
separately from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all the 
options I have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Difficult to say without knowing how you set the preference in the 
first place.


I think you have two options.  The following examples use "Bells On 
Sunday" (radio) and weather forecasts (TV) as being conveniently short 
programmes with correspondingly small download sizes to test with. Also, 
make sure you read the notes below before trying anything out:


1.  Leave the option --mpeg-ts as is, but add an additional 
post-download option for audio files using --command-radio to convert 
the download to m4a (or any other audio format of your choice).  The 
downside of this is that it may sometimes mean converting audio files 
twice, depending on the format of the original download.


Example:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


2.  Remove that option altogether and use the --raw option instead, and 
give different --command-radio and --command-tv options to get the two 
different types into the respective end formats required.  This should 
ensure that each type only gets converted once.


Examples:

--command-radio "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy '.m4a' && 
del '" --type radio --pid m001jkbm --raw -g


--command-tv "ffmpeg -i '' -c:a copy -c:v copy 
'.mp4' & del '" --type tv --tv-quality sd --pid 
m001kjpf --raw -g


IMPORTANT!  Notes:

Firstly, note that unless you want to keep the originally downloaded 
file as well as the converted file, you have to include a command to 
delete it, the double ampersand means that the del command only happens 
if the ffmpeg command didn't produce an error code when making the 
conversion.  The command is for a Windows set up, you'd use rm instead 
of DEL on a Linux system.


Secondly, the above FFMPEG commands are greatly simplified from the 
original commands that GiP would have fed to FFMPEG without the 
--mpeg-ts or --raw options being specified, which may be why the video 
one above corresponding to 2 below gave an avalanche of 'Invalid DTS' 
messages that don't occur when you let GiP do the job.  As the weather 
video played back alright, I didn't bother to investigate that further.


1) ffmpeg -loglevel fatal -stats -y -i "\Bells On Sunday - 
Cathedral Church Of St Mary The Virgin With St Paul In Blackburn 
Lancashire.hls.ts" "-c:v" copy "-c:a" copy "-bsf:a" aac_adtstoasc 
-movflags faststart "\Bells On Sunday - Cathedral Church Of St 
Mary The Virgin With St Paul In Blackburn Lancashire.partial.m4a"


2) ffmpeg -loglevel fatal -stats -y -i "\Weather For The Week 
Ahead - 2023-03-27.hls.ts" "-c:v" copy "-c:a" copy "-bsf:a" 
aac_adtstoasc -movflags faststart "\Weather For The Week Ahead - 
2023-03-27.partial.mp4"


Thirdly, the available substitution parameters to use in the filenames 
are here, but not all will have values in all circumstances, for example 
 was empty when I tried it


https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/subparams

Lastly, I know that once upon another life in some obscure case I tried 
to use a post-download command before, but struggled with it for hours, 
and now can't remember whether actually I ever even got it to work!  A 
significant part of the problem was that, as above, you need to put some 
parameters in quotes, for example filenames with spaces, but they tend 
to get stripped off by GetIPlayer when it feeds the quoted parameters to 
the external command.  I remember a lot of faffing around with single 
quotes inside double, and vice versa, trying to get it to work, but 
above examples do work on my system!


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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-28 Thread Jim web
In article , MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane - News  wrote:
> On 27/03/2023 10:44, Jim web wrote:

> Glad to see you're still alive and kicking.  I'd noticed your absence in
> another place and was a little worried for you.

Warning for the sensitive. Much of the following is even more OT. :-)

I'm still alive... I think!... but these days I'm ultra-busy with
non-maskable interrupts. My wife now needs 24/7 care due to some falls
added to other problems. So when it comes to time, usenet has drawn one of
the short straws in recent weeks. I also now have to be nagged by editors
when they want an item *now* "You'r holding up the magazine!"
[snip]

I've also been doing an urgent task - finding a new supplier for decent FF
teas, etc. Our old one ceased trading. Sad as their teas were great, and
they are nice people. 

Now found two candidates and doing trial orders.

Back on topic...

I've got Python 3.7 installed. But as my distro is 'just out of span'
Synaptic can't find related packages beyond the ones mentioned earlier.
However I suddenly realised that I'd probably messed up in another way as
well. Apologies to all if so. I keep having to do things in a rush, which
amplifies my usual state of muddle.

I'd first tried to use -U to update yt-dip on a machine where it had been
OK, but now fails due - I suspect - to YT moving their deckchairs. The new
version there also failed. *That* machine, though runs an even older
distro, so I decided to try my newer one. But probably fouled up by simply
copying across the updated yt-dlp and latterly installing the Python 3.7.

Instead, when I can find time I'll now do the standard install approach for
yt-dlp from the net. That may then sort out things I didn't do, or did
wrong. But there is no hurry. As usual, I'm doing this for some test
reasons similar to those reported on

https://www.audiomisc.co.uk/YouTube/SpotTheDifference.html

Say more about that if I ever get somewhere... :-) However, progress is
sloower than it used to be as I can't get as much time for things like this
as I was.

BTW The VW on Brass CD is superb. :-)

Jim

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Re: output format

2023-03-27 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 27/03/2023 17:56, fred.d wrote:

Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. Result 
is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files unless I override 
the command line with --raw when downloading audio :-(


What command-line option are you using to set this?

Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format separately 
from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all the options I 
have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Difficult to say without knowing how you set the preference in the first 
place.



Note:
I use .ts for historical reasons for video. I also have a decent .ts 
editor (TS-DOCTOR) that I like the interface for and it's quick to use 
and still handles 95% of content wonderfully. So quick, frame accurate, 
lossless editing with no hassle.
I've not found anything that's as easy to find edit points quickly using 
a keyboard when editing other video formats. Most of them use timelines 
as they are designed more for assembling than straight editing. To be 
fair I have only tried free software such as shotcut and openshot so 
there may be something else out there that's better. If so maybe it's 
time to change base format to .mkv or mp4. I'm not averse to change, 
it's just that I need an editor that's as easy and quick to use.


Perhaps keep the file as *.ts until you've finished editing it, then 
convert it to something more mainstream such as *.mp4.  The problem with 
*.mp4 is that it can be very difficult to edit accurately, as each 
'packet' of video can be several seconds long, and you can't easily edit 
within a packet, only at packet boundaries, so keeping it as *.ts until 
its final version would make sense.


Note: I suspect 'packet' is the wrong word there, but I can't remember 
the correct terminology.  Hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say.



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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 27/03/2023 18:10, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:


On 27/03/2023 10:44, Jim web wrote:

Glad to see you're still alive and kicking.  I'd noticed your absence in 
another place and was a little worried for you.



This is OT but I'm hoping some here will be using yt-dlp and can help!


I do use yt-dlp occasionally, but it's the Win32 pre-compiled version, 
so I kept quiet initially hoping that someone else would be able to give 
you some worthwhile help, but, as the problem doesn't seem to going 
anywhere, I'll see what I can do ...



The version of yt-dlip I've been using has been upped to the current one.
This now refuses to work unless I also go to Python 3.7 so I have 
installed

the basics of that... I think. However...


Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type:
 python --version

If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for:
 pip --help

On Ubuntu 18 I get:  Command 'pip' not found, but can be installed with:
 sudo apt install python-pip


Now when I try to run it is fails by saying

No module "contextvars".


Once pip is installed, try:
 pip install contextvars


Meant to include this:
https://docs.python.org/3.7/library/contextvars.html

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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 27/03/2023 10:44, Jim web wrote:

Glad to see you're still alive and kicking.  I'd noticed your absence in 
another place and was a little worried for you.



This is OT but I'm hoping some here will be using yt-dlp and can help!


I do use yt-dlp occasionally, but it's the Win32 pre-compiled version, 
so I kept quiet initially hoping that someone else would be able to give 
you some worthwhile help, but, as the problem doesn't seem to going 
anywhere, I'll see what I can do ...



The version of yt-dlip I've been using has been upped to the current one.
This now refuses to work unless I also go to Python 3.7 so I have installed
the basics of that... I think. However...


Might as well be sure, so what happens when you type:
python --version

If that comes up with 3.7 as desired, what do you get for:
pip --help

On Ubuntu 18 I get:  Command 'pip' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install python-pip


Now when I try to run it is fails by saying

No module "contextvars".


Once pip is installed, try:
pip install contextvars

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output format

2023-03-27 Thread fred.d

Recently started using gip to download sounds and audio files.

Unfortunately I've got my prefs set to force output to mpeg .TS. Result 
is my downloaded audio is being converted to .ts files unless I override 
the command line with --raw when downloading audio :-(


Does anyone know a way to configure gip Video output format separately 
from Audio output format? I've had a quick look at all the options I 
have docs on but I can't see anything obvious.


Note:
I use .ts for historical reasons for video. I also have a decent .ts 
editor (TS-DOCTOR) that I like the interface for and it's quick to use 
and still handles 95% of content wonderfully. So quick, frame accurate, 
lossless editing with no hassle.
I've not found anything that's as easy to find edit points quickly using 
a keyboard when editing other video formats. Most of them use timelines 
as they are designed more for assembling than straight editing. To be 
fair I have only tried free software such as shotcut and openshot so 
there may be something else out there that's better. If so maybe it's 
time to change base format to .mkv or mp4. I'm not averse to change, 
it's just that I need an editor that's as easy and quick to use.


Thanks.

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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread Jim web
In article <1fc5118b-7da9-e243-3a5a-3b1198f8f...@errichel.co.uk>, Budge
 wrote:


> So what I am using is not much help.  I am surprised that you have not
> upgraded though.  3.10 was introduced in 2021.  What OS are you using?
> Regards, Alastair.

Do you mean 3.6 for the Python that my machine has been using? I can't
recall when I installed the distro offhand, but it has just gone out of
active support. It is Mint xfce. I assume the synaptic version of Python
found would have been kept up, hence the 3.7 being present I guess.

Note I'm posting here using a totally different RISC OS machine.

I suspect that I need to install one (at least) of the other Python 3.7
items synaptic list. But since I know zip about Python I have no idea which
one(s)! So - not finding the contextvars module - yt-dlt tries what is
present, then throws the objection to it. Just my guess, though. OTOH I'm
wary of installing many 3.7 things in case that b*88*rs something else that
uses Python!

Jim




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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread Budge

Hi Jim
Further to my last message here is the version I am using and dependencies.

Installed Version

2023.03.04-pm150400.2.1

yt-dlp = 2023.03.04-pm150400.2.1

python310 /usr/bin/python3.10 ffmpeg rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1 rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 
rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) <= 5.2-1


So what I am using is not much help.  I am surprised that you have not upgraded 
though.  3.10 was introduced in 2021.  What OS are you using?
Regards,
Alastair.


On 27/03/2023 11:30, Budge wrote:

Hi Jim,
I am not a coder so cannot help too much but am using yt-dlp on openSUSE Leap 
15.4 and used it at the weekend to download a film. No problems for me here so 
I shall check what packages are installed and get back to you.  I am typing on 
a different machine at the office at present.  Will get back to you.
Alastair.

On 27/03/2023 10:44, Jim web wrote:

This is OT but I'm hoping some here will be using yt-dlp and can help!

The version of yt-dlip I've been using has been upped to the current one.
This now refuses to work unless I also go to Python 3.7 so I have installed
the basics of that... I think. However...

Now when I try to run it is fails by saying

No module "contextvars".

It then, I think, tries to use Python 3.6 and throws its errors that I
won't do that. Then stops. No coconut.

This is probably because I've not installed one of the packages for 3.7
that it needs, but I'm not sure of that, and don't want to install every
3.7 item that synaptic list if that isn't needed. Nor find I have to remove
Python 3.6!

Can anyone clarify/help, please?

Running a Mint xfce distro.

Thanks,

Jim




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Re: OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread Budge

Hi Jim,
I am not a coder so cannot help too much but am using yt-dlp on openSUSE Leap 
15.4 and used it at the weekend to download a film. No problems for me here so 
I shall check what packages are installed and get back to you.  I am typing on 
a different machine at the office at present.  Will get back to you.
Alastair.

On 27/03/2023 10:44, Jim web wrote:

This is OT but I'm hoping some here will be using yt-dlp and can help!

The version of yt-dlip I've been using has been upped to the current one.
This now refuses to work unless I also go to Python 3.7 so I have installed
the basics of that... I think. However...

Now when I try to run it is fails by saying

No module "contextvars".

It then, I think, tries to use Python 3.6 and throws its errors that I
won't do that. Then stops. No coconut.

This is probably because I've not installed one of the packages for 3.7
that it needs, but I'm not sure of that, and don't want to install every
3.7 item that synaptic list if that isn't needed. Nor find I have to remove
Python 3.6!

Can anyone clarify/help, please?

Running a Mint xfce distro.

Thanks,

Jim




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OT yt-dlp and Python snag

2023-03-27 Thread Jim web
This is OT but I'm hoping some here will be using yt-dlp and can help!

The version of yt-dlip I've been using has been upped to the current one.
This now refuses to work unless I also go to Python 3.7 so I have installed
the basics of that... I think. However...

Now when I try to run it is fails by saying 

No module "contextvars".

It then, I think, tries to use Python 3.6 and throws its errors that I
won't do that. Then stops. No coconut.

This is probably because I've not installed one of the packages for 3.7
that it needs, but I'm not sure of that, and don't want to install every
3.7 item that synaptic list if that isn't needed. Nor find I have to remove
Python 3.6!

Can anyone clarify/help, please?

Running a Mint xfce distro.

Thanks,

Jim

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Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
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Re: Discrepancy between iplayer & get_iplayer

2023-03-24 Thread Expert Geeks
Thanks for the comprehensive answer! I didn't realise there could be 
more than one version for the same pid, that's just what I needed to know.


You may question the sanity of someone that wants to watch 58 minutes 
of blather and bluster, let alone 170 minutes.. but I'm curious why 
the disparity and whether it's possible to get the full version.
> Indeed, what a waste of 170m!  It's Boris Johnson, so, if you can see 
his mouth moving, you know he's lying!


'aint that the truth!


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Re: Discrepancy between iplayer & get_iplayer

2023-03-23 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 23/03/2023 17:50, Expert Geeks wrote:


I'm having an odd issue where downloading the Select Committee of the 
'Conduct of Boris Johnson' is a file of 58 minutes regardless of the 
quality (hd, sd & web tried). The file downloaded is always 670mb (or 
thereabouts) so the quality seems to be being ignored.


In the following ...
gipl
... is a DOSKey abbreviation for ...
perl \get_iplayer.pl

gipl --tv-quality sd --pid m001krfw --info | find "qualit"
qualities:   editorial: sd,web,mobile
qualities:   original: sd,web,mobile
qualitysizes:editorial: sd=2298MB,web=2295MB,mobile=720MB [estimated 
sizes]

qualitysizes:original: sd=698MB,web=675MB,mobile=212MB [estimated sizes]

So there's no hd version, and consequently attempting to download it 
will have merely loaded the sd version instead.  Further, the sd and web 
versions are almost the same size anyway.


The file is also the same regardless of the method, --pid m001krfw or 
searching by name, whereas the version on the iplayer in the browser is 
the full 170 minutes.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001krfw/select-committees-conduct-of-boris-johnson-inquiry?page=1 


gipl --tv-quality sd --pid m001krfw --info | find "duration"
duration:3000
durations:   editorial: 10200
durations:   original: 3000

10200s = 170m
 3000s =  50m

So the two different durations are for two different versions, 
presumably with the default being the shorter one, and consequently you 
need to specify the editorial version if that's what you want.


From a brief test here ...

gipl --pid m001krfw --versions editorial -g

... looks like it should do it.

You may question the sanity of someone that wants to watch 58 minutes of 
blather and bluster, let alone 170 minutes.. but I'm curious why the 
disparity and whether it's possible to get the full version.


Indeed, what a waste of 170m!  It's Boris Johnson, so, if you can see 
his mouth moving, you know he's lying!


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Discrepancy between iplayer & get_iplayer

2023-03-23 Thread Expert Geeks

Hi All,

I'm having an odd issue where downloading the Select Committee of the 
'Conduct of Boris Johnson' is a file of 58 minutes regardless of the 
quality (hd, sd & web tried). The file downloaded is always 670mb (or 
thereabouts) so the quality seems to be being ignored.


The file is also the same regardless of the method, --pid m001krfw or 
searching by name, whereas the version on the iplayer in the browser is 
the full 170 minutes.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001krfw/select-committees-conduct-of-boris-johnson-inquiry?page=1

You may question the sanity of someone that wants to watch 58 minutes of 
blather and bluster, let alone 170 minutes.. but I'm curious why the 
disparity and whether it's possible to get the full version.




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Re: The Museum of Curiosity

2023-03-07 Thread Don Grunbaum




42896:  The Museum of Curiosity: Series 17 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, m001jsdr
INFO: 1 matching programmes
 
WARNING: No media streams found for requested programme versions and

recording modes.


get_iplayer --pid=m001jsdr downloads just fine for me, I even tried the
different quality options. Maybe there's some issue with what programme
version or recording mode you have selected as non-defaults?

-- Mark
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Thanks Mark

My options file had 


excludesupplier bidi

to fix a previous problem. Removing that has fixed the problem, but I have no 
idea why.

Ho hum

Don

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Re: The Museum of Curiosity

2023-03-07 Thread Mark Carroll
On 07 Mar 2023, Don Grunbaum wrote:

> 42896:  The Museum of Curiosity: Series 17 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, m001jsdr
> INFO: 1 matching programmes
>  
> WARNING: No media streams found for requested programme versions and
> recording modes.

get_iplayer --pid=m001jsdr downloads just fine for me, I even tried the
different quality options. Maybe there's some issue with what programme
version or recording mode you have selected as non-defaults?

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The Museum of Curiosity

2023-03-07 Thread Don Grunbaum

Hi all

I'm trying to download yesterday's episode of The Museum of Curiosity, but keep 
getting failures, although I can play it in BBC Sounds. I've had no problems 
downloading previous episode.

I normally use the PVR, but I've also tried using the Web Interface with the 
cache and Quick URL.

This is the error I get:

INFO: PVR Run: '_The Museum of Curiosity_ name_radio.txt'

Matches:
42896:  The Museum of Curiosity: Series 17 - Episode 3, BBC Radio 4, m001jsdr
INFO: 1 matching programmes

WARNING: No media streams found for requested programme versions and recording 
modes.
WARNING: The programme may no longer be available - check the iPlayer or Sounds 
site.
WARNING: The programme may only be available in an unsupported format (e.g., 
Flash) - check the iPlayer or Sounds site.
WARNING: If you use a VPN/VPS/Smart DNS/web proxy, it may have been blocked.
WARNING: PVR Run: '_The Museum of Curiosity_ name_radio.txt': 1 download 
failure(s)

I think it's a problem at the BBC end, but has anyone else encountered a 
similar fault? It will possibly sort itself out eventually.

TIA

Don Grunbaum

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Re: Quick URL

2023-01-25 Thread MrB
In case anyone is interested, "Quick URL" *does* work with an iplayer
link, you just have to click "Record" and not "Search" (even though
it's grouped with all the search fields).

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 at 14:45, MrB  wrote:
>
> What does this do on the WebPVR page?
> Sometimes GIP doesn't find programmes and so it'd be handy to just
> stick the iplayer URL or PID into the UI and have it download, and so
> I guessed Quick URL might do this, but it appears to do nothing.

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Quick URL

2023-01-21 Thread MrB
What does this do on the WebPVR page?
Sometimes GIP doesn't find programmes and so it'd be handy to just
stick the iplayer URL or PID into the UI and have it download, and so
I guessed Quick URL might do this, but it appears to do nothing.

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Re: $opt->{nowarntvlicence} how to set?

2023-01-04 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 03/01/2023 23:20, Kevin Lynch wrote:


Rebuilding my get_iplayer environment.

I don't want the TV Licence warning appearing in my logs.

What's the syntax

get_iplayer --prefs-add --nowarntvlicence=1

Unknown option: nowarntvlicence


The search term 'licence' gets no hits anywhere in the long help output 
of the v3.30 script.


Further, if you search the script for 'nowarntvlicence', you find only 
two hits in the following section beginning at line 3,722 (email 
linewrap not in original):


if ( $prog->{type} eq "tv" && ! $opt->{nowarntvlicence} ) {
$opt->{nowarntvlicence} = 1;
		main::logger "WARNING: A UK TV licence is required to access BBC 
iPlayer TV content legally\n";

}

What this seems to indicate is that the script author was allowing for 
some mechanism to exist for not displaying the message, but didn't 
actually get so far as implementing it fully, otherwise the string would 
also appear earlier in the script where the command-line parameters and 
preferences files are read.


Thus I guess you'd have to add the missing coding yourself to implement it.

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$opt->{nowarntvlicence} how to set?

2023-01-03 Thread Kevin Lynch
Rebuilding my get_iplayer environment.

I don't want the TV Licence warning appearing in my logs.

What's the syntax

get_iplayer --prefs-add --nowarntvlicence=1

Unknown option: nowarntvlicence

TIA

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Re: Channel 4 Time Team videos

2022-10-30 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 23/06/2022 12:14, Geoff Smith wrote:


Non-BBC on demand programmes I play full screen on a spare PC, with an
ad-blocker (which only rarely gets detected), and record using the
free version of OBS Studio. It works fine on a W10 machine but not W7,
but I can't figure why.


This version works for me with W7:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220509151916/https://cdn-fastly.obsproject.com/downloads/OBS-Studio-27.2.4-Full-Installer-x64.exe

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Re: Creating a month from the GiP filename

2022-10-14 Thread Chris Walker
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:07:35 +0100
Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip  wrote:

> On 2022-10-13 18:00, Chris Walker wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:38:54 +0100
> > Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip  wrote:
> 
> >> What IS the format you desire?
> > 
> > I want the format to be //10 Oct where 10
> > Oct is derived from the 
> 
> Ah, I think I thought you meant "10 Oct" as in the 10th of Oct, but
> now I think you mean " " and that's
> presumably as you want folder names that sort nicely but are
> instantly recognisable by month name as well.

Yes, that is exactly what I want. Apologies for not explaining it more
clearly.

> If g_ip can't do what you want, I'd suggest you create the folders as,
> say,
> 
>//MNUM=
> 
> which of course isn't what you want to end up with, but it'll at least
> create the folder and put files in it.
> 
> I'd then (under cron or something) run a script that looks for folders
> with names containing that "/MNUM=" literal & rename them to what you
> want them to be.
> 
> Hmm, that won't work ... you can't rename the folder until every file
> that would be generated in that folder has been written, and i suppose
> that might take a whole month or more to happen. So it'd be better if
> you just generated standalone files in a "just fetched" folder, then
> the cron-driven script moves those into year/month folders.
> 
> I think I'd just generate
> 
>-
> 
> in a general collection folder, and let a script rename/move them
> afterwards.

I run GiP on a Ubuntu server and for both radio and tv programmes they
download into a folder of the name GiP_Downloads/radio or
GiP_Downloads/tv (as appropriate [they're on separate raid drives]) and
then some code runs to convert radio progs into MP3 and generate a .nfo
file for use by LibreElec which runs on a Pi which resides in my
lounge. For tv progs, it also generates a .hmi file for use by a Humax
machine. But both types are then moved into
GiP_Downloads/radio_downloads or tv_downloads.

Films are moved from the GiP_Downloads/tv folder and saved on a third
mount on the Ubuntu box but I do that with a preset and so your
suggestion sounds like something I could do with another preset
somehow. Not clear at this stage quite how I would do it but I think
your idea about renaming sounds workable.

I might even call it monthname to make it clear to me in the future
what it does ;-)

Thanks for the ideas.

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Re: Creating a month from the GiP filename

2022-10-13 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip

On 2022-10-13 18:00, Chris Walker wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:38:54 +0100
Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip  wrote:



What IS the format you desire?


I want the format to be //10 Oct where 10
Oct is derived from the 


Ah, I think I thought you meant "10 Oct" as in the 10th of Oct, but now
I think you mean " " and that's presumably as
you want folder names that sort nicely but are instantly recognisable
by month name as well.

If g_ip can't do what you want, I'd suggest you create the folders as,
say,

  //MNUM=

which of course isn't what you want to end up with, but it'll at least
create the folder and put files in it.

I'd then (under cron or something) run a script that looks for folders
with names containing that "/MNUM=" literal & rename them to what you
want them to be.

Hmm, that won't work ... you can't rename the folder until every file
that would be generated in that folder has been written, and i suppose
that might take a whole month or more to happen. So it'd be better if
you just generated standalone files in a "just fetched" folder, then
the cron-driven script moves those into year/month folders.

I think I'd just generate

  -

in a general collection folder, and let a script rename/move them
afterwards.



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Re: Creating a month from the GiP filename

2022-10-13 Thread Chris Walker
On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:38:54 +0100
Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip  wrote:

> On 2022-10-13 11:40, Chris Walker wrote:
> 
> > I sort them into the relevant year using
> > / but I then have to run a bash script
> > to create a folder for the relevant
> > month with this code :-
> > newdir=$month" "$(date -d $month/01 +%b) where the month has been
> > extracted earlier such that I get a folder named '10 Oct'.
> > 
> > But of course GiP already provides the firstbcastmonth so is there
> > any way for GiP to create the month in the format I desire?
> 
> What IS the format you desire?

I want the format to be //10 Oct where 10
Oct is derived from the 

> What happens if instead of
> 
>/
> 
> you use
> 
>//

Instead of the sub-directory being 10 Oct it would be simply be 10 and
for purely personal reasons I don't want that.

> (or possibly something like
> 
>
> // 
> 
> if the latter variable also exists?

They all exist for the 2 programmes I identified and indeed I use a
variation of those which already defined as . They form
part of the filename to identify 'Sounds of the 60s with Tony
Blackburn' which would simply overwrite the previous file if I didn't
have the subfolder structure which I've chosen.

> It's been a long time since I used get_iplayer, but I approached this
> sort of problem by generating and issuing get_iplayer commands which
> contained explicit filepaths invented to suit whatever I was fetching
> rather than expecting get_iplayer to work out what to do with each
> file.

I don't think I'm expecting GiP to work out what to do with each file.
I have preferences set in general but choose to do things slightly
differently for a few programmes.

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Re: Creating a month from the GiP filename

2022-10-13 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip

On 2022-10-13 11:40, Chris Walker wrote:


I sort them into the relevant year using /
but I then have to run a bash script to create a folder for the 
relevant

month with this code :-
newdir=$month" "$(date -d $month/01 +%b) where the month has been
extracted earlier such that I get a folder named '10 Oct'.

But of course GiP already provides the firstbcastmonth so is there any
way for GiP to create the month in the format I desire?


What IS the format you desire?

What happens if instead of

  /

you use

  //

(or possibly something like

  
   // 

if the latter variable also exists?



It's been a long time since I used get_iplayer, but I approached this
sort of problem by generating and issuing get_iplayer commands which
contained explicit filepaths invented to suit whatever I was fetching
rather than expecting get_iplayer to work out what to do with each
file.

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Creating a month from the GiP filename

2022-10-13 Thread Chris Walker
I download some radio programmes each week including these, Sounds of
the 60s and Tony Blackburns Golden Hour.

I sort them into the relevant year using /
but I then have to run a bash script to create a folder for the relevant
month with this code :-
newdir=$month" "$(date -d $month/01 +%b) where the month has been
extracted earlier such that I get a folder named '10 Oct'.

But of course GiP already provides the firstbcastmonth so is there any
way for GiP to create the month in the format I desire?

Any help or ideas appreciated.

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Re: OT freeview Q

2022-10-09 Thread Info Skymem
Hi,
thank you for your information.

On our website you can find email addresses of companies and people.
https://www.skymem.info

In short, it’s like Google for emails.

Best regards,
Robert,
Skymem team

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:01 PM Jim web  wrote:
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> Sorry for asking here but my usenet feed isn't currently working and
> someone here may know the answers.
>
> I've been using VLC to record DVB-T2 stations into .ts files. I've noticed
> a 'freeview' stream which I think is an extended guide. So I've recorded a
> short section and been looking at it, which seems to confirm this.
>
> I'd like to be able to decode this into a 'human readable' form. So:
>
> Q1 is there some linux freeware that already does this?
>
> Q2 been looking for a document that specifies the format so I might DIY a
> decoder that outputs a human readable text version. Not found one yet, so
> does anyone have a URL for one?
>
> Ta,
>
> Jim
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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-30 Thread Mark Carroll
On 30 Sep 2022, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
(snip)
>> > As I said, I've made the effort to tell the BBC of the problem.
>> > They have already emailed me a ‘case number’ from their ticketing
>> > system.
>
> Just an update... the BBC say this is now fixed and it appears so.

Great! Thank you for putting in the more effort than it should have
been. (-:

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi,

> > As I said, I've made the effort to tell the BBC of the problem.
> > They have already emailed me a ‘case number’ from their ticketing
> > system.

Just an update... the BBC say this is now fixed and it appears so.

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OT freeview Q

2022-09-28 Thread Jim web
Sorry for asking here but my usenet feed isn't currently working and
someone here may know the answers.

I've been using VLC to record DVB-T2 stations into .ts files. I've noticed
a 'freeview' stream which I think is an extended guide. So I've recorded a
short section and been looking at it, which seems to confirm this.

I'd like to be able to decode this into a 'human readable' form. So:

Q1 is there some linux freeware that already does this?

Q2 been looking for a document that specifies the format so I might DIY a
decoder that outputs a human readable text version. Not found one yet, so
does anyone have a URL for one?

Ta,

Jim

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-26 Thread David Taylor

On 26/09/2022 12:07, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

I'm unclear how what I wrote can be misinterpreted, but I'm happy to
be told.  

As I said, I've made the effort to tell the BBC of the problem.  They have
already emailed me a ‘case number’ from their ticketing system.


My apologies, Ralph.  I read it that you'd lied about the e-mail address as
well!  I may have done the same!

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi David,

> > I've now finished spending fifteen minutes finding a means of
> > filling in a ‘Contact Us [if you're a masochist]’ form, lying about
> > the mandatory phone number, verifying the email address, etc.
>
> So you won't get an e-mail reply, and you will need to keep polling
> the Web site.

I'm unclear how what I wrote can be misinterpreted, but I'm happy to
be told.  :-)

As I said, I've made the effort to tell the BBC of the problem.  They have
already emailed me a ‘case number’ from their ticketing system.

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-26 Thread fred.d

Ralph

As a Grumpy old man one of my pet hates are these contact forms, 
especially when you are trying to help or if its technical you've 
already tried most things before you "write in".


That said, working in IT service I've seen the garbage that can come in 
on an internal service desk. So on a public facing one trying to qualify 
the issue and get people to self help really does focus the resource 
where it is actually needed. Hopefully that doesn't mean they then 
reduce the resource, but it's the real world we live in.



On 26/09/2022 09:28, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Mark,


It's probably a ‘Beeb problem’, as you say.

In some of these cases of technical iPlayer slips/omissions,
e-mailing the BBC gets them fixed fairly promptly.

I did try emailing an old address I had for them but it auto-replied
with a ‘We don't listen here any more’.

I've now finished spending fifteen minutes finding a means of filling in
a ‘Contact Us [if you're a masochist]’ form, lying about the mandatory
phone number, verifying the email address, etc.



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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-26 Thread David Taylor

On 26/09/2022 09:28, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

I've now finished spending fifteen minutes finding a means of filling in
a ‘Contact Us [if you're a masochist]’ form, lying about the mandatory
phone number, verifying the email address, etc.


So you won't get an e-mail reply, and you will need to keep polling the Web 
site.

Your choice, not mine, though.  I've found them quite helpful.

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Mark,

> > It's probably a ‘Beeb problem’, as you say.
>
> In some of these cases of technical iPlayer slips/omissions,
> e-mailing the BBC gets them fixed fairly promptly.

I did try emailing an old address I had for them but it auto-replied
with a ‘We don't listen here any more’.

I've now finished spending fifteen minutes finding a means of filling in
a ‘Contact Us [if you're a masochist]’ form, lying about the mandatory
phone number, verifying the email address, etc.

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-25 Thread Mark Carroll
On 25 Sep 2022, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

> It's probably a ‘Beeb problem’, as you say.

In some of these cases of technical iPlayer slips/omissions,
e-mailing the BBC gets them fixed fairly promptly.

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-25 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Chris,

> INFO: Skipping 'iplayer' version
>
> It would seem to be a Beeb problem and not something you're doing, or
> not doing ;-)

Thanks.  I notice that
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001b8js/beechgrove-2022-episode-20
says

   ‘We have removed the feature on the spindle bush which can be harmful
to dogs if consumed in quantity.  We do not advise planting in an
area that is accessed by dogs who are unsupervised.’

Perhaps the editing of the programme means the normal ‘iplayer’ version
of the subtitles, which is the only remaining version in the default
list for which a check is done, isn't available but some other version
is, one which isn't in get_iplayer's list of versions.

Though if I play the programme on the iPlayer site, no subtitles appear
and I don't see a way to turn them on but then playing in the browser is
not normally something I do.

It's probably a ‘Beeb problem’, as you say.

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Re: Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-25 Thread Chris Walker
On Sun, 2022-09-25 at 10:42 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone successfully obtain the subtitles for PID m001b8js?
> They're normally available for that series but this one episode lacks
> them AFAICS and I want to check it's not something I'm doing wrong.
> 

>     INFO: Subtitles not available for version(s): iplayer

get_iplayer -g --pid=m001b8js --subtitles-required

Episodes:
Beechgrove - 2022, Episode 20, BBC Scotland, m001b8js
INFO: 1 total programmes

WARNING: A UK TV licence is required to access BBC iPlayer TV content
legally
INFO: Downloading tv: 'Beechgrove: 2022 - 20. Episode 20 (m001b8js)
[iplayer]'
WARNING: Subtitles not available and --subtitles-required specified.
INFO: Skipping 'iplayer' version

It would seem to be a Beeb problem and not something you're doing, or
not doing ;-)

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Subtitles Unusually Not Available.

2022-09-25 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi,

Can anyone successfully obtain the subtitles for PID m001b8js?
They're normally available for that series but this one episode lacks
them AFAICS and I want to check it's not something I'm doing wrong.

...
INFO: No streams available for 'signed' version (m001bgtm) - skipping
INFO: No media streams found for 'original' version (m001b8jr) - deleting
INFO: No media streams found for 'signed' version (m001bgtm) - deleting
INFO: Processing tv: 'Beechgrove: 2022 - 20. Episode 20 (m001b8js)'
INFO: Searching for versions: iplayer
INFO: Subtitles not available for version(s): iplayer

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Re: widely varying download sizes

2022-09-20 Thread xndr

GiP can help with reducing output bitrate but this is achieved by using
a custom command for ffmpeg (either on the command line or embedded in
the appropriate preset)

We've found the following ffmpeg flags help considerably:-

-> Reduce frame rate by half using: -r 25

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/ChangingFrameRate

-> Reduce the output bit rate using combo's of: -b:v -minrate -maxrate
-bufsize

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Limiting%20the%20output%20bitrate

The first suggestion will easily result in an appreciable reduction in
output size for a modest hit on encode times.

The second can help further but comes with significant computational
overhead (i.e. time) as well as producing a subjectively better/worse
result. This means some experimentation!

To find out, try ffmpeg on the command line with short stretches of
video (~10-15mins) to see how different material performs - there will
be different results for natural, studio, film, live & CGI material.

How to implement custom ffmpeg command is given in the github wiki.

HTH

On 20/09/2022 16:29, D Martin wrote:

Hi all.  Neither a newbie nor an expert here, so I feel the need to
ask all you experts ...
A few months ago I realised that better resolution video was possible
by using dashfhd1, than what I'd previously been using.
It works well and the 1920 x 1080 video is lovely.
It does take up a lot of space though, and now I'm seeing 2:1 space
differences between different programs recorded the same way. Three
examples below ...

PID Type Name Episode Versions Duration Channel Time Added Filename Mode

First this is THE REPAIR SHOP, file explorer shows 1.39GB, 28mins50
secs, 1920x1080, 6901kbps, 50fps,
b09wv7ck tv The Repair Shop: Series 2 04. Episode 4 original 1730  BBC
One 1d 15h ago 
H:\New_Audio\The_Repair_Shop_Series_2_-_04._Episode_4_b09wv7ck_original.mp4
dashfhd1

Second this is FAKE OR FORTUNE, file explorer shows 1.67GB,
58mins14secs, 1920x1080, 4099kbps, 50fps
m001c26z tv Fake or Fortune?: Series 10 04. Flemish Old Master
audiodescribed,original 3540 BBC One 6d 0h ago
H:\New_Audio\Fake_or_Fortune_Series_10_-_04._Flemish_Old_Master_m001c26z_original.mp4
dashfhd1

Third this is SAVING LIVES AT SEA, file explorer shows 3.20GB,
58mins45secs, 1920x1080, 7790kbps, 50fps
m001bvr8 tv Saving Lives at Sea: Series 7 03. Caught Out
audiodescribed,original 3540 BBC Two 3d 21h ago
H:\New_Audio\Saving_Lives_at_Sea_Series_7_-_03._Caught_Out_m001bvr8_original.mp4
dashfhd1

So summarising .
REPAIR SHOP1.39GB  29mins 6901kbps
FAKE OR FORTUNE   1.67GB 58mins 4099kbps
SAVING LIVES .. 3.20GB 59mins  7790kbps

Clearly the kbps is the critical factor.  So I guess this is quite
outside my/our control?  Or is there a way I can ask get_iplayer to
downrate the SAVING LIVES AT SEA recording (for example) so that it
still saves at 1920x1020 resolution, but at a lower bitrate?

  Thanks all  ... David

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2022-09-20 Thread D Martin
Hi all.  Neither a newbie nor an expert here, so I feel the need to
ask all you experts ...
A few months ago I realised that better resolution video was possible
by using dashfhd1, than what I'd previously been using.
It works well and the 1920 x 1080 video is lovely.
It does take up a lot of space though, and now I'm seeing 2:1 space
differences between different programs recorded the same way. Three
examples below ...

PID Type Name Episode Versions Duration Channel Time Added Filename Mode

First this is THE REPAIR SHOP, file explorer shows 1.39GB, 28mins50
secs, 1920x1080, 6901kbps, 50fps,
b09wv7ck tv The Repair Shop: Series 2 04. Episode 4 original 1730  BBC
One 1d 15h ago 
H:\New_Audio\The_Repair_Shop_Series_2_-_04._Episode_4_b09wv7ck_original.mp4
dashfhd1

Second this is FAKE OR FORTUNE, file explorer shows 1.67GB,
58mins14secs, 1920x1080, 4099kbps, 50fps
m001c26z tv Fake or Fortune?: Series 10 04. Flemish Old Master
audiodescribed,original 3540 BBC One 6d 0h ago
H:\New_Audio\Fake_or_Fortune_Series_10_-_04._Flemish_Old_Master_m001c26z_original.mp4
dashfhd1

Third this is SAVING LIVES AT SEA, file explorer shows 3.20GB,
58mins45secs, 1920x1080, 7790kbps, 50fps
m001bvr8 tv Saving Lives at Sea: Series 7 03. Caught Out
audiodescribed,original 3540 BBC Two 3d 21h ago
H:\New_Audio\Saving_Lives_at_Sea_Series_7_-_03._Caught_Out_m001bvr8_original.mp4
dashfhd1

So summarising .
REPAIR SHOP1.39GB  29mins 6901kbps
FAKE OR FORTUNE   1.67GB 58mins 4099kbps
SAVING LIVES .. 3.20GB 59mins  7790kbps

Clearly the kbps is the critical factor.  So I guess this is quite
outside my/our control?  Or is there a way I can ask get_iplayer to
downrate the SAVING LIVES AT SEA recording (for example) so that it
still saves at 1920x1020 resolution, but at a lower bitrate?

 Thanks all  ... David

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Re: LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2022-08-16 Thread David Cantrell

On 15/08/2022 18:16, RS wrote:

Yes, I followed the instructions on that page to do a manual 
installation  for Ubuntu when Jon Hedgerows's PPA was withdrawn.  It 
worked fine then, and has been working fine for the last two years.


It stopped working when I upgraded from Kubuntu 18.04.6 to Kubuntu 
20.04.4.


It looks like the PPA that you downloaded from a third party was built 
for an old version of the OS and wants to link against an old version of 
libxml, so is incompatible with the version that you now have after 
upgrading Ubuntu. You fix this by getting an updated PPA that is 
compatible with the libraries in the new version of Ubuntu.



With most programs you expect deleting and re-installing to be a solution


That's not something I've come across. UPGRADING software to be 
compatible with a new OS is often necessary, but just deleting and 
reinstalling the same software is generally just a waste of time.


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Re: LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2022-08-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 09:54:32AM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
>Do you mean a version number for Perl? Try 'man perl' as here, that
>gives a history of updates. Just scroll down the list of stuff it
>produces.

More simply, "perl -v".

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Re: LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2022-08-16 Thread Chris Walker
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 16:31:33 +0100
RS  wrote:

> problems for a long time, although I was still running v3.28.

Have you now upgraded to v3.30?

> I have just upgraded from Kubuntu 18.04.6 LTS to Kubuntu 20.04.4 LTS. 
> Now whenever I try to run get_iplayer, with or without arguments, it 
> immediately displays a message

I've just upgraded my machines to 22.04LTS and have experienced no
problems. The desktop machine runs lubuntu.

GiP has continued to run on my NAS running Ubuntu Server without issue.

> LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got 
> handshake key 0xde00080, needed 0xcd00080)
> 
> It does not even display the version number.

Do you mean a version number for Perl? Try 'man perl' as here, that
gives a history of updates. Just scroll down the list of stuff it
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Re: LibXML.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2022-08-15 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 15:28 +0100, RS wrote:
> I have found this at
> https://rt-archive.perl.org/perl5/Ticket/Display.html?id=124201
> 
> "(got handshake key 0x7bc, needed 0x7cc)" means in your XS 
> module, the definition of the perl's master interpreter struct is 
> smaller than the interp engine expects (XS module says its 0x7bc bytes
> long, interp core says its 0x7cc bytes long). The layouts of the
> structs 
> are not compatible. They must be the same otherwise memory corruption 
> occurs.

Have you looked at this page?
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/unix

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Re: Remux TV Progs to Matroska Video .mkv

2022-07-10 Thread fred.d
Be careful. As others have said mp4 and mkv are container formats and 
this is what is associated with the extension. It's more important in 
the what can play the video decision.


The compression (or not) comes from the codec, but again some codecs can 
do both compressed (lossy ) and uncompressed (lossless)


Note also just to confuse folk, there is an MPEG4 codec, which I thought 
for a while was what mp4 used.


Unfortunately none of this is simple and ultimately the only way I found 
to settle on what I wanted for my video collection was try a number of 
containers and compressions and evaluate which gave me the best overall 
result over many different types of film and tv program. (Plus side that 
took a few weeks with bottles of wine and the better half helping 
evaluate the results...)


Then it was the case of what simplified the various sourcing processes 
and finally - compromise, which I think is where you're at here.


To be honest, with the number of streaming services around these days 
I'm more selective and don't keep as many broadcast items as I used to. 
- It costs me less to subscribe to 3 or 4 services than it does to build 
and run a file server for a 10 year period. The added advantage is that 
many of the things I recorded in 1080 x 720 or whatever are now 
streamable in full HD and even with the bitrate that comes down the line 
to me it's better than my 10 year old recordings.


For more info you could do worse than these two:

raw info: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats


or for a more readable piece: 
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/all-you-need-to-know-about-video-codecs-containers-and-compression/


On 10/07/2022 17:40, Computing wrote:
Oh, I was lead to believe that .mp4 was a lossy format, where as .mkv 
is not.


That is what I was trying to avoid

Martin

On 09/07/2022 23:01, David Cantrell wrote:
As far as I know conversion to mp4 is just changing the container 
format, there’s no recompression.




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Re: Remux TV Progs to Matroska Video .mkv

2022-07-10 Thread Computing

Hi, I just require 'standard' codec and bitrate, what ever they may be.

I was trying to avoid the lossy conversion to .mp4, so would prefer 
going directly to .mkv, which is not lossy.


Martin
Please note, I'm away for the next week or so

On 10/07/2022 13:00, Mr.G wrote:
> Martin
> If you included an example pid of a program that might help. As 
others have said TS (Transport Stream)   ,MP4  and MKV are containers 
for audio and video formats. The codec and bitrate will determine the 
quality.
> I tend to use H264 as H265 requires much more runtime CPU and things 
like my Fire stick won't play them reliably. I use MP3 for audio.
> So what quality are you wishing to achieve That might be a good 
starting point then

>
> https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/modes
>
> G.
>
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 22:45, Computing  
wrote:

>
> Hi, I'm trying to get programmes from the Beeb into .mkv format.
>
> I know you can do it by using --command-tv='ffmpeg -i 
"" -c:v

> copy -c:a copy  -y "/.mkv"'
>
> but it still downloads the raw .ts file, converts it to a .mp4, 
tags it,

> then converts to a .mkv as required.
>
> Is there a way to do download  .ts, convert to .mkv, tag .mkv?? I.E.
> Avoid the mp4 lossy conversion??
>
> Thanks loads
>
> Martin
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Re: Remux TV Progs to Matroska Video .mkv

2022-07-10 Thread Computing
Oh, I was lead to believe that .mp4 was a lossy format, where as .mkv is 
not.


That is what I was trying to avoid

Martin

On 09/07/2022 23:01, David Cantrell wrote:

As far as I know conversion to mp4 is just changing the container format, 
there’s no recompression.



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Re: Remux TV Progs to Matroska Video .mkv

2022-07-09 Thread David Cantrell
As far as I know conversion to mp4 is just changing the container format, 
there’s no recompression.

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This electrogram was despatched by wireless field telegraph. I would therefore 
ask that the recipient be so kind as to excuse any failures of courtesy or 
linguistic inelegance as an unfortunate side-effect of the technology. I 
remain, Sir, Madam, or Robot, your humble and obedient servant.

> On 9 Jul 2022, at 22:46, Computing  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm trying to get programmes from the Beeb into .mkv format.
> 
> I know you can do it by using --command-tv='ffmpeg -i "" -c:v copy 
> -c:a copy  -y "/.mkv"'
> 
> but it still downloads the raw .ts file, converts it to a .mp4, tags it, then 
> converts to a .mkv as required.
> 
> Is there a way to do download  .ts, convert to .mkv, tag .mkv?? I.E. Avoid 
> the mp4 lossy conversion??
> 
> Thanks loads
> 
> Martin
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Remux TV Progs to Matroska Video .mkv

2022-07-09 Thread Computing

Hi, I'm trying to get programmes from the Beeb into .mkv format.

I know you can do it by using --command-tv='ffmpeg -i "" -c:v 
copy -c:a copy  -y "/.mkv"'


but it still downloads the raw .ts file, converts it to a .mp4, tags it, 
then converts to a .mkv as required.


Is there a way to do download  .ts, convert to .mkv, tag .mkv?? I.E. 
Avoid the mp4 lossy conversion??


Thanks loads

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Budge,

> > Some of the ‘Unsorted’ ones have a PID and ‘./get_iplayer -i --pid
> > b075t5mn’ shows
> > 
> >  categories:  Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
> >  category:Factual
...
> where did you get the categories line above?

It's in the output of running the get_iplayer program with the arguments
I showed above.  But another reply has pointed out the same detail is
probably in each of the MP3 files, which is easier to access.

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread David Cantrell

On 05/07/2022 21:04, Budge wrote:

On 05/07/2022 19:00, David Cantrell wrote:

$ AtomicParsley In_Our_Time_-_John_Bull_m0018nsd_other.m4a --textdata
...
Atom "©grp" contains: Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
...
Atom "©gen" contains: Factual


Not now at the machine where my GiP history resides but I have meanwhile 
been confused further by the above reference to "Factual."  I have not 
seen any of my existing files which have been entered into a "Factual" 
subdirectory.  I only have the five directories Culture, History, 
Philosophy, Religion and Science.  Is there another category "Factual?"


Note that there are two fields that contain "Factual".

Back when I worked on the iPlayer back-end, categories were, if I 
remember correctly, a multi-layered beast. I assume that they still are, 
and that "Factual" is the top level, which contains a "History" 
sub-category, which contains a "Discussion & Talk" sub-category.


Of course, that doesn't mean that they still organise things that way. 
But nevertheless, one of the categories you were interested in was 
"History", and that appears in the "©grp" atom for that particular episode.


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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Budge

On 05/07/2022 19:00, David Cantrell wrote:

On 05/07/2022 09:42, Budge wrote:
I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved 
for use locally.
Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes in slightly 
different formats and I believe they are now also available from an 
archive as podcasts, but I already have my own archive, albeit in 
various formats.


My problem is that in the beginning the downloads were filtered, I 
think by BBC but possibly by my filters long ago, into five categories 
according to subject.  The categories were Culture, History, 
Philosophy, Religion and Science ...
Most media files contain metadata tags, including those downloaded from 
the BBC. For mp3 files use `id3info` to see them. For m4a files use the 
idiotically-named `AtomicParsley`. For example:


$ AtomicParsley In_Our_Time_-_John_Bull_m0018nsd_other.m4a --textdata

Atom "stik" contains: Normal
Atom "cprt" contains: 2022 British Broadcasting Corporation, all rights
   reserved
Atom "©nam" contains: John Bull
Atom "©ART" contains: BBC Radio 4
Atom "aART" contains: BBC Radio
Atom "©alb" contains: In Our Time
Atom "©grp" contains: Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
Atom "©wrt" contains: BBC Sounds
Atom "©gen" contains: Factual
Atom "©cmt" contains: Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the origins and
   evolution of the satirical everyman figure
Atom "©day" contains: 2022-06-30T09:00:00+01:00
Atom "©lyr" contains: Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the origin of this
   personification of the English everyman and his development as both
   British and Britain in the following centuries. He first appeared
   blahblahblah ...



Hi David,
Not now at the machine where my GiP history resides but I have meanwhile 
been confused further by the above reference to "Factual."  I have not 
seen any of my existing files which have been entered into a "Factual" 
subdirectory.  I only have the five directories Culture, History, 
Philosophy, Religion and Science.  Is there another category "Factual?"


I note the line Atom "©gen" contains: Factual.  Is this genre?  I wonder 
if when I rebuilt my system I didn't get the pvr instruction correct and 
if I ran it again this might do the sorting for me as the metadata will 
still be available.  Any ideas?



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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread David Cantrell

On 05/07/2022 09:42, Budge wrote:
I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved 
for use locally.
Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes in slightly 
different formats and I believe they are now also available from an 
archive as podcasts, but I already have my own archive, albeit in 
various formats.


My problem is that in the beginning the downloads were filtered, I think 
by BBC but possibly by my filters long ago, into five categories 
according to subject.  The categories were Culture, History, Philosophy, 
Religion and Science ...
Most media files contain metadata tags, including those downloaded from 
the BBC. For mp3 files use `id3info` to see them. For m4a files use the 
idiotically-named `AtomicParsley`. For example:


$ AtomicParsley In_Our_Time_-_John_Bull_m0018nsd_other.m4a --textdata

Atom "stik" contains: Normal
Atom "cprt" contains: 2022 British Broadcasting Corporation, all rights
  reserved
Atom "©nam" contains: John Bull
Atom "©ART" contains: BBC Radio 4
Atom "aART" contains: BBC Radio
Atom "©alb" contains: In Our Time
Atom "©grp" contains: Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
Atom "©wrt" contains: BBC Sounds
Atom "©gen" contains: Factual
Atom "©cmt" contains: Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the origins and
  evolution of the satirical everyman figure
Atom "©day" contains: 2022-06-30T09:00:00+01:00
Atom "©lyr" contains: Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the origin of this
  personification of the English everyman and his development as both
  British and Britain in the following centuries. He first appeared
  blahblahblah ...

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Chris Walker
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 09:42:06 +0100
Budge  wrote:

> I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved
> for use locally. Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes

[snip]

> I am reluctant to download them all again so am posting a request for
> help please to curate these files and sort the unsorted programmes
> into the original categories.  Is this possible and if so how

This may not be the best approach but it's where I would start.
Assuming your download_history file has captured all of your downloaded
IOT files, and again, assuming you're on linux as I have no idea how to
do this on Windows, I would do this :-
grep 'In Our Time' ~/.get_iplayer/Download_history to produce a list of
programmes for your chosen search criteria. The first 8 characters
comprise the pid. If I had better programming skills! I could exclude
everything except the pid. Then do a for loop around that list
'get_iplayer --info '$pid and then extract the category or whatever
else it is you want.

I trust somebody else will now come along and polish the concoction that
I've produced ;-)

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Budge

On 05/07/2022 14:12, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Budge,


file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Science/153
 
In_Our_Time_Archive_Science_-_IOT_The_Royal_Society_and_British_Science_Episode_4_iots_20100107-0900a.mp3
file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_716._The_Sikh_Empire_b075t5mn_default.m4a
file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_A_Midsummer_Nights_Dream__podcast.m4a
file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_With_Melvyn_Bragg_-_IOT_Zen_04_Dec_14_iot_20141204-1140a.mp3


Some of the ‘Unsorted’ ones have a PID and ‘./get_iplayer -i --pid
b075t5mn’ shows

 categories:  Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
 category:Factual

Is ‘Factual’ the kind of thing which would replace ‘Unsorted’?


Hi Ralph,
As far as I am aware there is no Factual category, only the five I mentioned 
earlier.  The directory Unsorted was created by me as a holding place until I 
sorted this out, which has taken longer than I intended!
where did you get the categories line above?

 


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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Budge,

> file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Science/153
>  
> In_Our_Time_Archive_Science_-_IOT_The_Royal_Society_and_British_Science_Episode_4_iots_20100107-0900a.mp3
> file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_716._The_Sikh_Empire_b075t5mn_default.m4a
> file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_A_Midsummer_Nights_Dream_m00046rp_podcast.m4a
> file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_With_Melvyn_Bragg_-_IOT_Zen_04_Dec_14_iot_20141204-1140a.mp3

Some of the ‘Unsorted’ ones have a PID and ‘./get_iplayer -i --pid
b075t5mn’ shows

categories:  Factual,History,Discussion & Talk
category:Factual

Is ‘Factual’ the kind of thing which would replace ‘Unsorted’?

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Budge

On 05/07/2022 12:01, Jonathan Bryden wrote:

I am not sure if I am understanding the problem correctly so please forgive me 
if my answer is over simplistic but the BBC lists all episodes by genre so 
wouldn't the quickest way be to go through each of the lists in turn dropping 
the relevant episodes from your unsorted folder into the correct genre folder. 
I doubt it would take long.

For example the science grouping is here 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01gyd7j?page=1

If it helps I have a numbered list of episodes since 2012 in the correct order.

Hope that helps a bit

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Budge
Sent: 05 July 2022 09:42
To: get_iplayer 
Subject: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved for use 
locally.
Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes in slightly different 
formats and I believe they are now also available from an archive as podcasts, 
but I already have my own archive, albeit in various formats.

My problem is that in the beginning the downloads were filtered, I think by BBC but 
possibly by my filters long ago, into five categories according to subject.  The 
categories were Culture, History, Philosophy, Religion and Science.  This seems to have 
stopped around 2012, possible due to BBC format changes and since then they have all been 
saved in my system as "Unsorted" and for a while these were also numbered but 
are no longer, possibly due to changes in my own GiP setup over the years.

I am reluctant to download them all again so am posting a request for help 
please to curate these files and sort the unsorted programmes into the original 
categories.  Is this possible and if so how please?  All help much appreciated 
as it has been a while since I worked on GiP.
Budge

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Hi Jonathan,
Seems like a plan.  I had no idea there already was a list by genre available.  
Will start there.

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Budge

On 05/07/2022 12:26, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Budge,


The categories were Culture, History, Philosophy, Religion and
Science.  This seems to have stopped around 2012, possible due to BBC
format changes and since then they have all been saved in my system as
"Unsorted" and for a while these were also numbered but are no longer,
possibly due to changes in my own GiP setup over the years.


Please show the list some example filenames, both those old ones which
are in their correct category and some new ‘unsorted’ ones.  This will
tell us what information can be gleaned from them, e.g. an iPlayer PID.


Hi Ralph,
Many thanks btw to all for the prompt replies.
Here is the last file in the Science list:-

file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Science/153
 
In_Our_Time_Archive_Science_-_IOT_The_Royal_Society_and_British_Science_Episode_4_iots_20100107-0900a.mp3

I have no idea how the numbering was achieved and looking at the metadata the 
file is showing as a podcast.

From the unsorted directory in my system they fall into two types, those 
already numbered although again I have no recollection of how they were 
numbered, and those without numbers.

Here is the first of the list:-
file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_716._The_Sikh_Empire_b075t5mn_default.m4a.
  The numbering stopped at 815.  The files then have a slightly different look. 
 Here is the first of the un-numbered files:-

file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_-_A_Midsummer_Nights_Dream_m00046rp_podcast.m4a

Here is the last on my database:-

file:///home/alastair/NFS_Multimedia_NFS/AV_multimedia/Music/Radio_Programme/In_Our_Time_Unsorted/In_Our_Time_With_Melvyn_Bragg_-_IOT_Zen_04_Dec_14_iot_20141204-1140a.mp3

Will these help?
Meanwhile I shall take a look at the wiki and also on BBC archive.
Regards,
Budge





 


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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Budge,

> The categories were Culture, History, Philosophy, Religion and
> Science.  This seems to have stopped around 2012, possible due to BBC
> format changes and since then they have all been saved in my system as
> "Unsorted" and for a while these were also numbered but are no longer,
> possibly due to changes in my own GiP setup over the years.

Please show the list some example filenames, both those old ones which
are in their correct category and some new ‘unsorted’ ones.  This will
tell us what information can be gleaned from them, e.g. an iPlayer PID.

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread fred.d
Couldn't find the current episodes on iplayer so not sure if they have 
these categories available, but that will be limited anyway.


Tried IMDB - they have an episode list but no info other than title

Tried the tvdb, but unsurprisingly not there.

Wikipedia provides a list however with a lot of info. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_In_Our_Time_programmes


Not your categories tho, so it would be a manual exercise to import the 
list into a spreadsheet and add a category column, wouldn't think it 
would take more than an hour with this info as you know how you want to 
categorise them.
Then use the titles and categories from that list with some awk/sed 
wizardry (or other renaming program if you have one)  to effect the 
changes to the filenames.


I'm assuming that you aren't Windows but if you are, have a look at 
"advanced renamer", there may be an extension to extract info from the 
relevant audio files and if you're lucky then the category is in there 
but hidden. Takes a couple of hours to wrap your head around the 
advanced options and test, but I have used this for my photography files 
for years as I prefer the primary info to be in the file name. I still 
use other tools to organise but...


Once you've done it, consider uploading to the Wiki or IMDB.

Good luck.


On 05/07/2022 09:42, Budge wrote:
I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved 
for use locally.
Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes in slightly 
different formats and I believe they are now also available from an 
archive as podcasts, but I already have my own archive, albeit in 
various formats.


My problem is that in the beginning the downloads were filtered, I 
think by BBC but possibly by my filters long ago, into five categories 
according to subject.  The categories were Culture, History, 
Philosophy, Religion and Science.  This seems to have stopped around 
2012, possible due to BBC format changes and since then they have all 
been saved in my system as "Unsorted" and for a while these were also 
numbered but are no longer, possibly due to changes in my own GiP 
setup over the years.


I am reluctant to download them all again so am posting a request for 
help please to curate these files and sort the unsorted programmes 
into the original categories.  Is this possible and if so how please?  
All help much appreciated as it has been a while since I worked on GiP.

Budge

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Re: Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip

Oops, re-sending, as my first reply wasn't to the list.

On 2022-07-05 09:42, Budge wrote:


I am reluctant to download them all again so am posting a request for
help please to curate these files and sort the unsorted programmes
into the original categories.  Is this possible and if so how please?
All help much appreciated as it has been a while since I worked on
GiP.


If for every episode you've downloaded you renamed the files to include
some or all of the subject details, then you might be able to look for
significant keywords in those subjects.  Eg find all the unsorted files
whose subject includes "church", or "god" or "bishop" ... then place
them in your "religion" folder.  Or perhaps place them in a temporary
"probably religion" folder and cast an eye over their subjects so that
you aren't misled by subjects like "waiting for godot".

If your files don't have subject detail in them, is there not a way
to use g_ip to list available files without downloading them - that
might give you long lists of prior and recent podcasts/programme
details.  They might already be listed in your programme title caches
and those you did download in the download history files.

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Curating "In Our Time" (IOT) downloads.

2022-07-05 Thread Budge

I have been listening to IOT for years and have these downloads saved for use 
locally.
Through time the BBC have delivered these programmes in slightly different 
formats and I believe they are now also available from an archive as podcasts, 
but I already have my own archive, albeit in various formats.

My problem is that in the beginning the downloads were filtered, I think by BBC but 
possibly by my filters long ago, into five categories according to subject.  The 
categories were Culture, History, Philosophy, Religion and Science.  This seems to have 
stopped around 2012, possible due to BBC format changes and since then they have all been 
saved in my system as "Unsorted" and for a while these were also numbered but 
are no longer, possibly due to changes in my own GiP setup over the years.

I am reluctant to download them all again so am posting a request for help 
please to curate these files and sort the unsorted programmes into the original 
categories.  Is this possible and if so how please?  All help much appreciated 
as it has been a while since I worked on GiP.
Budge

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SOLVED ... Re: Every download command results in > being displayed!

2022-06-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
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Sorted!

I entered my command into the shell buffer of emacs, and straight away I saw an 
entry '047, which when I corrected it to 1047 allowed me to start downloading, 
so panic stations now cancelled and normal service has been re-enabled! 

- From the pillock
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Re: Every download command results in > being displayed!

2022-06-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Sharon,

> then issue the following command 'get_iplayer -g 33840' & onwards, but
> no matter what I do the end of the list shows up as '>' and doesn't
> allow me to download anything at all!

My hunch...

One of the parameters you have entered has a single quote, ‘'’, and that
starts a quoted string which can cross the end of the first line into
subsequent lines.  The normal shell's prompt of ‘$’ changes to ‘>’ to
show this line is a continuation of the previous one.

$ echo foo
foo
$ echo foo'bar
> xyzzy'
foobar
xyzzy
$

Remove the quoting behaviour of the single quote by prefixing it with a
backslash, ‘\’, which is an ‘escape hatch’ for proving a literal quote
despite its special meaning.  This is known as ‘escaping’, e.g. ‘escape
the ' with a \’.

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Every download command results in > being displayed!

2022-06-30 Thread Sharon Kimble
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Hash: SHA512

This morning I started my usual weekly look through the past programmes to see 
what I want to download, and then issue the following command 'get_iplayer -g 
33840' & onwards, but no matter what I do the end of the list shows up as '>' 
and doesn't allow me to download anything at all! This is with get-iplayer 
version 3.30.

So what am I doing wrong please, and how can I sort it out?

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: Glastonbury results

2022-06-29 Thread Jim web
"Wombledumb" also seems to have had an impact yesterday on other
programmes going AWOL.

I wanted to get the "Why Buildings Collapse" which was listed yesterday on
the BBC shedules for after the balls. But too many balls it seems means it
didn't get TX'd. Result is that the iPlayer had a page for it saying that
it was TXd 28th. But no modes available this morning. PITA.

Jim

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Re: Glastonbury results

2022-06-29 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 28/06/2022 17:43, B wrote:


I was trying to use the GiP PVR to download all the Glasto programmes
but for some reason the search returns fewer results than expected.
Namely searching for "glastonbury" as "name" in tv & radio gets 89
hits and that includes some from other years.
But https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b007r6vx/glastonbury says
142 Episodes Available and if I do that from get_iplayer manually i.e.
get_iplayer --pid b007r6vx --pid-recursive --subtitles  --metadata
--thumbnail --tv-quality=fhd
it returns: INFO: 205 total programmes

Why the large difference?


The same thing tends to happen with Wimbledon and other large events.  I 
suspect that some of the 'extra' programmes are Red Button, iPlayer 
only, or otherwise outside the remit or the time frame of the programme 
searching mechanism.  I would suggest using the

--pid --pid-recursive
method instead.

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Re: Nottingham Open Tennis - What happened to Day 3?

2022-06-29 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 26/06/2022 14:27, Mark Carroll wrote:


On 26 Jun 2022, MacFH wrote:


Except the tournament was two weeks ago, and the other days are already
half-way to their expiry date, so 'soon' is beginning to look like 'never'!


'Never' is in fact correct.


I've sometimes had useful feedback or help from the BBC when mentioning
this kind of thing to them via the online feedback form stuff, sometimes
it's a rights issue but sometimes it's just a correctable slip-up at
their end. At least, they might be able to help far better than we:
if BBC iPlayer's not showing it, fair chance get-iplayer isn't either!


"Hi Mr [snip],

Thanks for contacting BBC iPlayer support about Day 3 of the Nottingham 
tennis.


Unfortunately, this cannot be made available on iPlayer due to technical 
difficulties.


We're very sorry for the inconvenience but we have now removed the 
Coming Soon label from the episode.


I wish I had better news for you but thanks for taking the time to let 
us know.


All the best,

[snip]"

One wonders what the 'technical difficulties' might be, given all the 
rest of the tournament, presumably created by the same staff using the 
same equipment, is available.


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Glastonbury results

2022-06-28 Thread B
Hi

I was trying to use the GiP PVR to download all the Glasto programmes
but for some reason the search returns fewer results than expected.
Namely searching for "glastonbury" as "name" in tv & radio gets 89
hits and that includes some from other years.
But https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b007r6vx/glastonbury says
142 Episodes Available and if I do that from get_iplayer manually i.e.
get_iplayer --pid b007r6vx --pid-recursive --subtitles  --metadata
--thumbnail --tv-quality=fhd
it returns: INFO: 205 total programmes

Why the large difference?

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Re: Nottingham Open Tennis - What happened to Day 3?

2022-06-26 Thread Mark Carroll
On 26 Jun 2022, MacFH wrote:

> Except the tournament was two weeks ago, and the other days are already 
> half-way to their expiry date, so 'soon' is beginning to look like 'never'!

I've sometimes had useful feedback or help from the BBC when mentioning
this kind of thing to them via the online feedback form stuff, sometimes
it's a rights issue but sometimes it's just a correctable slip-up at
their end. At least, they might be able to help far better than we:
if BBC iPlayer's not showing it, fair chance get-iplayer isn't either!

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Re: Nottingham Open Tennis - What happened to Day 3?

2022-06-26 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News

On 26/06/2022 11:56, J K.Eason wrote:

*From:* MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
*To:* get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
*Date:* Sun, 26 Jun 2022 10:46:00 +0100

Anyone know why Day Three of this year's Nottingham Open is not
available?  All the others download alright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0cb8p1k


"This episode will be available soon" on the web page seems fairly
conclusive...


Except the tournament was two weeks ago, and the other days are already 
half-way to their expiry date, so 'soon' is beginning to look like 'never'!



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Re: Nottingham Open Tennis - What happened to Day 3?

2022-06-26 Thread J K.Eason
> *From:* MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News 
> *To:* get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> *Date:* Sun, 26 Jun 2022 10:46:00 +0100
> 
> Anyone know why Day Three of this year's Nottingham Open is not 
> available?  All the others download alright:
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0cb8p1k

"This episode will be available soon" on the web page seems fairly
conclusive...
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Nottingham Open Tennis - What happened to Day 3?

2022-06-26 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News
Anyone know why Day Three of this year's Nottingham Open is not 
available?  All the others download alright:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0cb8p1k

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Re: Channel 4 Time Team videos

2022-06-23 Thread Chris Brady
Channel 4 streaming is DRM'd. OBS is a good solution. Works for me on Win 10.

Time Team should also be at MVGROUP.org - free membership and downloads

Also try Torrenting.com

CJB

On 23/06/2022, Geoff Smith  wrote:
> Non-BBC on demand programmes I play full screen on a spare PC, with an
> ad-blocker (which only rarely gets detected), and record using the
> free version of OBS Studio. It works fine on a W10 machine but not W7,
> but I can't figure why.
>
> Geoff Smith
>
> On 23/06/2022, Jim web  wrote:
>> Is it possible to use yt-dlp to fetch video files of programmes from
>> Channel 4's 'on demand'/'All 4' service? I'd like if I can to get copies
>> of
>> their 'Time Team' episodes, but can't see how to do it. A URL I tried
>> didn't work, so either this isn't possible or I didn't find the correct
>> URL. Or messed up some other way!
>>
>> The main page that lists the items is here
>> https://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team
>>
>> Ta,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> --
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Re: Channel 4 Time Team videos

2022-06-23 Thread Geoff Smith
Non-BBC on demand programmes I play full screen on a spare PC, with an
ad-blocker (which only rarely gets detected), and record using the
free version of OBS Studio. It works fine on a W10 machine but not W7,
but I can't figure why.

Geoff Smith

On 23/06/2022, Jim web  wrote:
> Is it possible to use yt-dlp to fetch video files of programmes from
> Channel 4's 'on demand'/'All 4' service? I'd like if I can to get copies of
> their 'Time Team' episodes, but can't see how to do it. A URL I tried
> didn't work, so either this isn't possible or I didn't find the correct
> URL. Or messed up some other way!
>
> The main page that lists the items is here
> https://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team
>
> Ta,
>
> Jim
>
> --
> Electronics
> https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
> Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
> biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
> Audio Misc  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html
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Channel 4 Time Team videos

2022-06-23 Thread Jim web
Is it possible to use yt-dlp to fetch video files of programmes from
Channel 4's 'on demand'/'All 4' service? I'd like if I can to get copies of
their 'Time Team' episodes, but can't see how to do it. A URL I tried
didn't work, so either this isn't possible or I didn't find the correct
URL. Or messed up some other way!

The main page that lists the items is here
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team

Ta,

Jim

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biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
Audio Misc  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-08 Thread Chris Brady
Yes it works now but without --tv-quality SB

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 21:37 +0100 (BST), J K.Eason  wrote:
>> This doesn't work ...
>>
>> get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20
>> --tv-quality 1080p
>>
>
> Worked fine for me yesterday using that exact start/stop format and PID.
> I removed the --tv-quality switch before running it because I'm still
> using an old version of GIP, but it happily downloaded and converted to a
> 2 min 18 sec MP4 clip without problem.
>
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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-08 Thread David Taylor

On 07/06/2022 21:18, Chris Brady wrote:

This doesn't work ...

get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 --tv-quality 1080p

CJB


I tried with --pid= and it didn't work, but that was because it thought
the item was already downloaded and I needed to add "--force" to override that.

Very useful to know the start/stop parameters.

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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-07 Thread J K.Eason
>  It worked without the extra --tv-quality 1080p
> 
> I used --modes=best instead
> 
 I have that setting in my options file anyway.

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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-07 Thread J K.Eason
> This doesn't work ...
> 
> get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 
> --tv-quality 1080p
> 

Worked fine for me yesterday using that exact start/stop format and PID.
I removed the --tv-quality switch before running it because I'm still
using an old version of GIP, but it happily downloaded and converted to a
2 min 18 sec MP4 clip without problem.

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RE: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-07 Thread george
It worked fine for me!

> -Original Message-
> From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of
> Chris Brady
> Sent: 07 June 2022 21:18
> To: Jonathan H 
> Cc: get_iplayer 
> Subject: Re: Off-topic - Paddington
> 
> This doesn't work ...
> 
> get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 --tv-quality
1080p
> 
> CJB
> 
> On 07/06/2022, Jonathan H  wrote:
> > Or... https://youtu.be/7UfiCa244XE plus https://y2mate.is/
> >
> > You're welcome!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 15:44, David Taylor 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06/06/2022 14:05, Jimmy Aitken wrote:
> >> > You can extract the Paddington clip from the BBC stream at 1080p
> >> > quality
> >> > with:
> >> >
> >> > get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20
> >> > --tv-quality 1080p
> >> >
> >> > Jimmy
> >>
> >> Thanks, Jimmy.  I've never used the start/stop commands!  I ended up
> >> with the
> >> 11 GB download and using the Windows Photo app to edit.  First time
> >> I've used that, but it works well at least for simple trimming.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-07 Thread Chris Brady
This doesn't work ...

get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 --tv-quality 1080p

CJB

On 07/06/2022, Jonathan H  wrote:
> Or... https://youtu.be/7UfiCa244XE plus https://y2mate.is/
>
> You're welcome!
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 15:44, David Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> On 06/06/2022 14:05, Jimmy Aitken wrote:
>> > You can extract the Paddington clip from the BBC stream at 1080p quality
>> > with:
>> >
>> > get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 --tv-quality
>> > 1080p
>> >
>> > Jimmy
>>
>> Thanks, Jimmy.  I've never used the start/stop commands!  I ended up with
>> the
>> 11 GB download and using the Windows Photo app to edit.  First time I've
>> used
>> that, but it works well at least for simple trimming.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
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Re: Off-topic - Paddington

2022-06-07 Thread Jonathan H
Or... https://youtu.be/7UfiCa244XE plus https://y2mate.is/

You're welcome!


On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 15:44, David Taylor  wrote:
>
> On 06/06/2022 14:05, Jimmy Aitken wrote:
> > You can extract the Paddington clip from the BBC stream at 1080p quality 
> > with:
> >
> > get_iplayer --pid p0bk5pd7 --start 00:30:05 --stop 00:32:20 --tv-quality 
> > 1080p
> >
> > Jimmy
>
> Thanks, Jimmy.  I've never used the start/stop commands!  I ended up with the
> 11 GB download and using the Windows Photo app to edit.  First time I've used
> that, but it works well at least for simple trimming.
>
> Cheers,
> David
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